Rushmore

[moc_moc_a_moc]

Hi, quick question for people that know about licenses/rights etc. I know Rushmore has a Criterion release in the U.S, but why doesn't it have a release in the U.K? It seems like a crazy situation to me. Is there any chance someone like Masters of Cinema would release it?

Question also applies to Bottle Rocket and Tenenbaums.

(Apologies in advance if this question has already been asked and answered elsewhere, or I've posted in wrong place)

[Buzz201]

Bottle Rocket is a no, I believe freelancer Michael B confirmed Sony UK don't licence films out, and I can't see them producing their own master...

[dvdmike]

Originally Posted by Buzz201

Bottle Rocket is a no, I believe freelancer Michael B confirmed Sony UK don't licence films out, and I can't see them producing their own master...

Sony have an Hd master

[Buzz201]

Originally Posted by dvdmike

Sony have an Hd master

I think I used the wrong terminology, sorry. I meant I couldn't see them producing a disc, not that I couldn't see them producing a HD master.

[rapta]

In short, Sony have the rights to Bottle Rocket and Disney have Rushmore, The Royal Tenenbaums and The Life Aquatic (my favourite). So unless they recognise the increasing popularity of Wes Anderson (like Fox did by releasing The Darjeeling Limited over here eventually) it's unlikely we'll see them.

Sucks, cause Rushmore and Life Aquatic are particular favourites of mine. Bottle Rocket would be joyous on blu-ray too. Of course, all of his films would.

[Cinematt]

The Criterion discs are all great, and whilst you might see UK releases of the films eventually don't hold your breath about getting the wonderful features and packaging design - the Rushmore DVD was a really sorry affair in the UK.

[malcy30]

Isn't this a Touchstone, so Disney title globally ? If so don't hold your breathe on a UK or European BD. Back in the day Disney did release a few of the titles they licenced to Criterion on DVD, as SE DVDs themselves in UK including The Rock and Armageddon which featured the Criterion extras.
Disney probably see this as back catalogue non animated so are uninterested in releasing and they don't seem to licence titles to others in UK.

You have more hope of seeing Bottle Rocket as with it being Sony there is a chance of a BD in Germany and Italy even if not in UK as Sony UK less interested in back catalogue than their European businesses. Sony Europe have released BDs of quite a few films where the US rights have been passes to Criterion, Twilight Times etc

[amoergosum]

Multi.
Zone.
Blu-ray.
Player.

It feels pretty good not having to worry about locked Blu-rays anymore.

[Buzz201]

Originally Posted by amoergosum

Multi.
Zone.
Blu-ray.
Player.

It feels pretty good not having to worry about locked Blu-rays anymore.

You aware how annoying people that post that are, right? Just because you're technology savvy doesn't mean other people and it doesn't mean you need to annoying about it. (I have a multi-region blu-ray player and it still pisses me off when people do this.)

[amoergosum]

Originally Posted by Buzz201

You aware how annoying people that post that are, right? Just because you're technology savvy doesn't mean other people and it doesn't mean you need to annoying about it. (I have a multi-region blu-ray player and it still pisses me off when people do this.)

LOL...when did I say I'm "technology savvy"???

I had the exact issue like moc_moc_a_moc.
I purchased a multi zone Blu-ray player because of Wes Anderson Criterion Blu-rays initially. Since then I purchased quite a number of other region locked Blu-rays. It's really great not having to worry about region codes anymore.

What exactly is annoying about that?...wow...just...wow.

[moc_moc_a_moc]

Originally Posted by amoergosum

LOL...when did I say I'm "technology savvy"???

I had the exact issue like moc_moc_a_moc.
I purchased a multi zone Blu-ray player because of Wes Anderson Criterion Blu-rays inititally. Since then I purchased quite a number of other region locked Blu-rays. It's really great not having to worry about region codes anymore.

What exactly is annoying about that?...wow...just...wow.

Its OK, I wasn't annoyed by it. I think people react that way because thats often the default answer from people without considering circumstances. A multi region player is the way to go, but I use my PS3 as a bluray player due to space issues and can't really justify another black box.

I actually have the Criterion DVDs, back when having a multi region DVD player and getting R1 DVDs before they even hit UK cinemas felt 'cool', but now I'm of the opinion that region coding should be smashed, instead of circumvented, so I'm reluctant to acquiesce.

Probably still will at some point though!

[Geoff D]

Can't help with the OP's question but I love your username, Daddy!

(And I didn't find the multi zone comment annoying, either.)

[Buzz201]

Originally Posted by amoergosum

LOL...when did I say I'm "technology savvy"???

I had the exact issue like moc_moc_a_moc.
I purchased a multi zone Blu-ray player because of Wes Anderson Criterion Blu-rays initially. Since then I purchased quite a number of other region locked Blu-rays. It's really great not having to worry about region codes anymore.

What exactly is annoying about that?...wow...just...wow.

I'm just fed up of people continuously posting on UK threads where a release has been treated badly "import it". It happens all the time, and as advice, it's not really that helpful, there are a lot of people who aren't necessarily up on all the underlying technologies and may not understand regions and importing, and it would be far more helpful in the long run to address reasons why we get shitty releases where possible.

Plus it's generally (although not in this case) done in the most dicky way possible. So now I see the words and they just automatically piss me off...

[moc_moc_a_moc]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Can't help with the OP's question but I love your username, Daddy!

(And I didn't find the multi zone comment annoying, either.)

Huss!

[Geoff D]

Just stay away from my BINS

[dvdmike]

Originally Posted by Cinematt

The Criterion discs are all great, and whilst you might see UK releases of the films eventually don't hold your breath about getting the wonderful features and packaging design - the Rushmore DVD was a really sorry affair in the UK.

Depends, BV have licenced the extras before from Criterion, and Dltd had most of the extras on the UK disc from Fox

[Cinematt]

Originally Posted by dvdmike

Depends, BV have licenced the extras before from Criterion, and Dltd had most of the extras on the UK disc from Fox

I'm not saying it's impossible, and probably much more likely in the wake of Grand Budapest Hotel, but AFAIK the Criterion DVD was the only decent release of Rushmore anywhere and it's now OOP but still nobody has licensed the extras. Fox probably have an ongoing deal with Anderson/Criterion, I think we're all expecting Criterion to release GBH down the line, and I wouldn't be at all surprised to then see Fox release a UK blu with the licensed extras to get us to double-dip. I'd be very happy to see better relationships and licensing, whilst I've got a modest Criterion blu collection I'm never going to be able to pick them up for a fiver in a sale like I can UK releases!

And whilst I agree that region coding is rubbish and we should press studios not to use it, and not to release shabby versions in other regions, the practicality is I can shout at distributors until I'm blue in the face and pray they see enough financial incentive to have a better go at releases, or I can spend a bit more on a region free player and solve my problem today.
I don't think we're going to ever see as many releases on blu as we've had on DVD, with the forces of online distribution fighting against it, so I'm happier to grab what I can from wherever I can now!

[Pecker]

Originally Posted by Buzz201

I'm just fed up of people continuously posting on UK threads where a release has been treated badly "import it". It happens all the time, and as advice, it's not really that helpful, there are a lot of people who aren't necessarily up on all the underlying technologies and may not understand regions and importing, and it would be far more helpful in the long run to address reasons why we get shitty releases where possible.

If the US release is good and the UK one is shitty, we can tell you the UK one is shitty, and we might even be able to tell you why it's shitty.

But guess what. After we've done that, it'll still be shitty and the US on will still be better.

For anyone who needs any 'technological' help with buying a Region Free/Zone Free player, here's the advice.

If you need 3D buy one of these:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/BDP-S5100-Mu...ree+blu-ray+3d

If you only need 2D buy one of these:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/CODEFREE-BD-...e+free+blu-ray

If they sell out, just type in 'zone free blu-ray' in the Amazon search bar and check in the product title/description it says something like "Blu Ray Zone A/B/C".

TA-DA!

Hopefully that's not so technical that anyone needs a degree in computer science to understand.

It really is that simple!

Steve W

Just kidding with you Buzz, don't take it personally.

SW

[adamhopelies]

Originally Posted by Cinematt

I'm not saying it's impossible, and probably much more likely in the wake of Grand Budapest Hotel, but AFAIK the Criterion DVD was the only decent release of Rushmore anywhere and it's now OOP but still nobody has licensed the extras.

It's not OOP.

[Cinematt]

Originally Posted by adamhopelies

It's not OOP.

Ah, my bad, I saw it wasn't available to buy from criterion anymore, but the note on their store does say you can still get it from other retailers.