The Wife Has Agreed... - Blu-ray Forum

mywxrld · 10-13-2009, 03:10 PM

The wife has agreed to upgrade our current Onkyo 605

but to which one? The three choices I have come down to are Pioneer Elite VSX-21TXH, Marantz SR6003, or Integra 30.1. The reason for these 3 choices is that they all have pre-out for a possible future upgrade to a separate amplifier.

I have heard the Pioneer and like the look and sound of it. Marantz was the receiver used when I was sold on and ended up getting my Paradigm Monitor 7’s and CC290 speakers. I have never heard an Integra but I know that they are part of the Onkyo company. I like the fact that the Integra is 7.2 (future 2nd sub) instead of 7.1 but other than that they are really close spec wise. I can get the Integra for approx $725 so price wise they are also very close. Now this is where I need your help, does one of these have an advantage or disadvantage (video or audio) over the others or are they really all going to be the same?

Beta Man · 10-13-2009, 03:13 PM

They are all going to have different audio characteristics, and if you're looking "Long term" and planning on adding separate amplification, don't concern yourself with the wattage output that they "Claim" (it's often not very relevant anyways)

I'm a big fan of Rotel, Marantz, and NAD.

Fors* · 10-13-2009, 03:18 PM

Besides what Beta Man suggested, these receivers also process sound differently, and thus can sound differently. You said you liked the sound of the Pioneer, but have you listened to the other 2 yet? The 3 receivers you picked are very comparable, so if price is not a huge factor, I would make sure you give a listen to all 3 and let your ears decide this for you.

Steve · 10-13-2009, 03:18 PM

Of the three you listed I would personally go with the Pioneer or Marantz. And don't worry about the 7.2 vs. 7.1 issue. All you need is a $3 'Y' splitter to run two subwoofers from any receiver with only one sub connection.

lucv13 · 10-16-2009, 04:36 AM

I'm a little biased towards Marantz but must point out I loved my Pioneer when I had it. Just a quick check and I noticed that the sr6003 also has 2 HDMI outs which may come in handy as well for 2 displays. Have no experience with Integra but being affiliated with Onkyo I wonder if they suffer from the same heat issues...

I'm sure you will be happy with any of the receivers listed - My Paradigms love the Marantz and Rotel combo so my vote is for the Marantz

quest88 · 10-18-2009, 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mywxrld

The wife has agreed to upgrade our current Onkyo 605

but to which one? The three choices I have come down to are Pioneer Elite VSX-21TXH, Marantz SR6003, or Integra 30.1. The reason for these 3 choices is that they all have pre-out for a possible future upgrade to a separate amplifier.

I have heard the Pioneer and like the look and sound of it. Marantz was the receiver used when I was sold on and ended up getting my Paradigm Monitor 7’s and CC290 speakers. I have never heard an Integra but I know that they are part of the Onkyo company. I like the fact that the Integra is 7.2 (future 2nd sub) instead of 7.1 but other than that they are really close spec wise. I can get the Integra for approx $725 so price wise they are also very close. Now this is where I need your help, does one of these have an advantage or disadvantage (video or audio) over the others or are they really all going to be the same?

All good choices and either way you will be getting a great quality product. I would like to however sway you into the Pioneer Elite VSX-21TXH. Why? Well I just got mine and

it's great ! I still can't believe how awesome it is.

Ex Accountant · 10-18-2009, 08:40 PM

I have an empty space on my bedroom shelf that would fit your 605 perfectly!!!

DougMac · 10-21-2009, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Beta Man

I'm a big fan of Rotel, Marantz, and NAD.

I've been an NAD fan since the early '80's. I'm running a T762 in my home theater and it sounds great. Unfortunately, no HDMI, no Audyssey and it's 5.1, not 7.1.

DonRSD · 10-21-2009, 07:13 PM

get an ONKYO 806

mywxrld · 10-21-2009, 09:37 PM

Picked up the Pioneer VSX-23TXH because BB had their free upgrade deal going on (Buy the VSX-21TXH and upgrade to the VSX-23TXH for free). What a huge difference this thing has made in the 2 days I have had it. I am keeping the 605 for a while at least but the Pioneer has made a believer out of me!

quest88 · 10-31-2009, 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mywxrld

Picked up the Pioneer VSX-23TXH because BB had their free upgrade deal going on (Buy the VSX-21TXH and upgrade to the VSX-23TXH for free). What a huge difference this thing has made in the 2 days I have had it. I am keeping the 605 for a while at least but the Pioneer has made a believer out of me!

What they had a free upgrade thing

. Congrats I still can't believe how much of an improvement it is over the 605 .

ZedsDead · 10-31-2009, 09:07 PM

Congrats on the new Pioneer. Was looking at getting one myself a little while back, but I got the Yamaha RX-V765 for $399 and at that price it's unbeatable.

Fors* · 11-02-2009, 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mywxrld

Picked up the Pioneer VSX-23TXH because BB had their free upgrade deal going on (Buy the VSX-21TXH and upgrade to the VSX-23TXH for free). What a huge difference this thing has made in the 2 days I have had it. I am keeping the 605 for a while at least but the Pioneer has made a believer out of me!

Congrats mywxrld.....glad to welcome another member to Elite status!

I think you will be very happy with the VSX-23!!

Steve · 11-02-2009, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by forsberg21

Congrats mywxrld.....glad to welcome another member to Elite status!

I think you will be very happy with the VSX-23!!

Congrats on the new Elite.

jruc03 · 11-02-2009, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by forsberg21

Congrats mywxrld.....glad to welcome another member to Elite status!

I think you will be very happy with the VSX-23!!

Congrats like fors said welcome to the club

I have teh VSX-21 and love it, its very similar to the 23, and I to came from the Onkyo 606 and I heard alot more clarity right off the bat. Run that MCCAC and enjoy.

ezdraft · 12-11-2009, 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ex Accountant

I have an empty space on my bedroom shelf that would fit your 605 perfectly!!!

did you get one of these? i have a used one too

10-13-2009, 03:10 PM	#1
mywxrld Active Member Member since:Aug 2008 Location:Just North Of Denver Colorado 4K collection:312 Blu-ray collection:1374	The Wife Has Agreed... The wife has agreed to upgrade our current Onkyo 605 but to which one? The three choices I have come down to are Pioneer Elite VSX-21TXH, Marantz SR6003, or Integra 30.1. The reason for these 3 choices is that they all have pre-out for a possible future upgrade to a separate amplifier. I have heard the Pioneer and like the look and sound of it. Marantz was the receiver used when I was sold on and ended up getting my Paradigm Monitor 7’s and CC290 speakers. I have never heard an Integra but I know that they are part of the Onkyo company. I like the fact that the Integra is 7.2 (future 2nd sub) instead of 7.1 but other than that they are really close spec wise. I can get the Integra for approx $725 so price wise they are also very close. Now this is where I need your help, does one of these have an advantage or disadvantage (video or audio) over the others or are they really all going to be the same?

10-13-2009, 03:18 PM	#4
Steve Blu-ray Knight Top ranked HT gallery Top contributor Member since:May 2008 Location:Anna, TX 4K collection:128 Blu-ray collection:416 Trading Score:41	Of the three you listed I would personally go with the Pioneer or Marantz. And don't worry about the 7.2 vs. 7.1 issue. All you need is a $3 'Y' splitter to run two subwoofers from any receiver with only one sub connection. Last edited by Steve; 10-31-2009 at 10:11 PM.

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10-13-2009, 03:13 PM	#2
Beta Man Moderator Top contributor Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Juuuuuuuust A Bit Outside.... Home Theater Gallery:4 Blu-ray collection:268 Blu-ray reviews: 18 Trading Score:25	They are all going to have different audio characteristics, and if you're looking "Long term" and planning on adding separate amplification, don't concern yourself with the wattage output that they "Claim" (it's often not very relevant anyways) I'm a big fan of Rotel, Marantz, and NAD.

10-13-2009, 03:18 PM	#3
Fors* Moderator Top ranked HT gallery Top contributor Member since:Jan 2009 Location:Pottstown, PA Home Theater Gallery:160 4K collection:12 Blu-ray collection:142 Trading Score:11	Besides what Beta Man suggested, these receivers also process sound differently, and thus can sound differently. You said you liked the sound of the Pioneer, but have you listened to the other 2 yet? The 3 receivers you picked are very comparable, so if price is not a huge factor, I would make sure you give a listen to all 3 and let your ears decide this for you.

10-16-2009, 04:36 AM	#5
lucv13 Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Jun 2008 Location:Gatineau QC Canada DVD collection:70 Blu-ray reviews:3 Trading Score:12	I'm a little biased towards Marantz but must point out I loved my Pioneer when I had it. Just a quick check and I noticed that the sr6003 also has 2 HDMI outs which may come in handy as well for 2 displays. Have no experience with Integra but being affiliated with Onkyo I wonder if they suffer from the same heat issues... I'm sure you will be happy with any of the receivers listed - My Paradigms love the Marantz and Rotel combo so my vote is for the Marantz

10-18-2009, 08:40 PM	#7
Ex Accountant Special Member Member since:Feb 2007 Trading Score:55	I have an empty space on my bedroom shelf that would fit your 605 perfectly!!!

10-21-2009, 07:13 PM	#9
DonRSD Blu-ray Knight Member since:Jan 2009 Location:South Florida Home Theater Gallery:24 Blu-ray collection:254 Blu-ray reviews: 3 Trading Score:129	get an ONKYO 806

10-21-2009, 09:37 PM	#10
mywxrld Active Member Member since:Aug 2008 Location:Just North Of Denver Colorado 4K collection:312 Blu-ray collection:1374	Picked up the Pioneer VSX-23TXH because BB had their free upgrade deal going on (Buy the VSX-21TXH and upgrade to the VSX-23TXH for free). What a huge difference this thing has made in the 2 days I have had it. I am keeping the 605 for a while at least but the Pioneer has made a believer out of me!

10-31-2009, 09:07 PM	#12
ZedsDead Senior Member Member since:Jul 2009 Home Theater Gallery:28 Blu-ray collection:94	Congrats on the new Pioneer. Was looking at getting one myself a little while back, but I got the Yamaha RX-V765 for $399 and at that price it's unbeatable.

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