Does anyone here NOT listen to the DD-HD and DTS-HD audio tracks? - Blu-ray Forum

Chordata · 02-12-2010, 06:40 PM

I'm struggling. I want to upgrade to the Sony s570, but I'll lose my multichannel analog outs that go with my old-school receiver, meaning I'll lose HD audio.

Just trying to see who, if anyone, actually listens to the regular, core 5.1 tracks.

I expect there's a ridiculous difference.

Clark Kent · 02-12-2010, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by O_V_N

I expect there's a ridiculous difference.

There is a huge difference on most movies. You just have to bite the bullet at some point and get a new receiver.

Chordata · 02-12-2010, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Clark Kent

There is a huge difference on most movies. You just have to bite the bullet at some point and get a new receiver.

One day...

Maybe I'll just keep my current Sony s550. I just want the bells and whistles on the s570 and was wondering if it was worth giving up my HD sound.

threefiftyrocket · 02-12-2010, 07:00 PM

even with my wimpy @$$ HTiB there's a HUGE difference... Don't do it man, for the love of GOSH, DONT DO IT

Not until you replace your receiver anyway... that's just my OH PEN YAWN...

woodley56 · 02-12-2010, 07:26 PM

Why don't you just upgrade to a receive that has multi channel outs?

Chordata · 02-12-2010, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by woodley56

Why don't you just upgrade to a receive that has multi channel outs?

Sorry if I wasn't clear.

I have a receiver with multichannel ins (which is what you mean I think).

My player has multichannel outs.

The player I want does not.

Chordata · 02-12-2010, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by threefiftyrocket

even with my wimpy @$$ HTiB there's a HUGE difference... Don't do it man, for the love of GOSH, DONT DO IT

Not until you replace your receiver anyway... that's just my OH PEN YAWN...

What kind of HTIB did you get? Like it?

My current one is a HTIB. It's great for my purposes.

Pelican170 · 02-12-2010, 08:36 PM

What bells and whistles are you wanting that would make you give up the HD sound? to me, all i care about IS the hd sound! half the blurays i have, are solely based on the sound alone...

Chordata · 02-12-2010, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Pelican170

What bells and whistles are you wanting that would make you give up the HD sound? to me, all i care about IS the hd sound! half the blurays i have, are solely based on the sound alone...

Stupid stuff: BD Remote with my iPod Touch; Wireless connection; streaming capability for YouTube, Pandora, Netflix, etc.

They are silly, I know.

I'd be without it just for a period of months. Looking at getting the Yamaha RX-V465, that I believe is compatible with my existing speakers, down the road.

Pelican170 · 02-12-2010, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by O_V_N

Stupid stuff: BD Remote with my iPod Touch; Wireless connection; streaming capability for YouTube, Pandora, Netflix, etc.

They are silly, I know.

I'd be without it just for a period of months. Looking at getting the Yamaha RX-V465, that I believe is compatible with my existing speakers, down the road.

well, to be honest, im a fan of those bells and whistles as well. if it were me, id get what you want, then upgrade the receiver asap...

Kryptonic · 02-12-2010, 08:49 PM

Oppo 80?

threefiftyrocket · 02-12-2010, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by O_V_N

What kind of HTIB did you get? Like it?

My current one is a HTIB. It's great for my purposes.

All I know is its Sony and its one that matches the Blu-ray players... don't know the model number... good unit and its served me well, but I would MUCH rather have something bigger and better. I got it pretty cheap tho so I knew what I was getting and can't complain too much...

Uniquely · 02-12-2010, 09:00 PM

I think how big of a difference it makes depends upon your audio system. I do notice a difference, and I definitely prefer the lossles... but I would not describe the difference as HUGE. If I had to choose between lossles audio and streaming Netflix... I would PROBABLY pick the Netflix... but that's a choice I really wouldn't want to have to make. Have you thought about just getting a separate box for streaming, like a Roku or a Popcorn or something?

threefiftyrocket · 02-12-2010, 09:06 PM

to me it is huge... I can definitely tell a difference by putting on the HD tracks... to everyone it is different tho. I can BARELY tell the difference between 1080i and 1080p, and in some instances I can't at all, and the whole DNR issue with GONY and Gladiator... I honestly can't see it, but that's my vision. I am an audiophile, however, so the lossless/uncompressed vs. DD 5.1 and DTS 5.1 core is a HUGE difference to me.

42041 · 02-12-2010, 09:52 PM

i like lossless sound but i'm not obsessed with it. i've seen more than adequate evidence that people will hear exactly what they want to hear. sometimes i'll listen to the lossy track just to spite audiophiles

krazeyeyez · 02-12-2010, 09:53 PM

I would not describe the difference as huge either, in fact i would describe it as subtle. Its not like wow listen to that lossless, its more an effect you get over the movie as a whole.... as in slightly more enveloping sound, with some sound levels reaching a better level of clarity. Frankly the core tracks on Blu sound much better then their dvd counterparts, which imo is nothing bad, just not the best available.

I wouldn't want to buy a component today that doesn't support the lossless codecs, but i wouldn't sacrifice features in a hurry to get the capability back either. Core tracks won't kill you

until you get the funding and research together to make your next purchase. Just my opinion.

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Originally Posted by 42041

i like lossless sound but i'm not obsessed with it. i've seen more than adequate evidence that people will hear exactly what they want to hear. sometimes i'll listen to the lossy track just to spite audiophiles

lol

kevinbr100 · 02-12-2010, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by O_V_N

I'm struggling. I want to upgrade to the Sony s570, but I'll lose my multichannel analog outs that go with my old-school receiver, meaning I'll lose HD audio.

Just trying to see who, if anyone, actually listens to the regular, core 5.1 tracks.

I expect there's a ridiculous difference.

me. ive never heard the hd or lossless tracks before. my receiver is too old, and my bluray player is a ps3, no multichannel out. still i have been impressed with the core tracks, still an significant upgrade over the dvd soundtracks. plus once i finally get a new receiver, i have a good excuse to go watch all the titles i own again

FendersRule · 02-13-2010, 03:47 AM

lossless or go home.

1080p or go home.

Trip · 02-13-2010, 01:44 PM

I upgraded my receiver at Thanksgiving from an older Sony using optical in to an Onkyo 607 with HDMI, and I've gotta say that there is a HUGE difference with True HD / Master Audio. I'm not an audiophile by any means, but trust me here, it's a lot easier to move from DD 5.1 or DD+ to HD Audio that it is to go backwards.

Keep the player and spend your money on a new receiver instead. You won't be disappointed.

JBL4645 · 02-14-2010, 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by O_V_N

Stupid stuff: BD Remote with my iPod Touch; Wireless connection; streaming capability for YouTube, Pandora, Netflix, etc.

They are silly, I know.

I'd be without it just for a period of months. Looking at getting the Yamaha RX-V465, that I believe is compatible with my existing speakers, down the road.

Seems like if you don’t like Yamaha’s internal amps you can always buy matching amps that will play fine with the loudspeakers. It’s got RCA phone outputs where some models don’t even support RCA phone outputs.

02-12-2010, 06:40 PM	#1
Chordata Blu-ray Knight Member since:Jan 2009 Location:Home of N'Sync and the Backstreet Boys Blu-ray collection:75 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:1	Does anyone here NOT listen to the DD-HD and DTS-HD audio tracks? I'm struggling. I want to upgrade to the Sony s570, but I'll lose my multichannel analog outs that go with my old-school receiver, meaning I'll lose HD audio. Just trying to see who, if anyone, actually listens to the regular, core 5.1 tracks. I expect there's a ridiculous difference.

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02-12-2010, 07:00 PM	#4
threefiftyrocket Blu-ray Guru Member since:Apr 2009 Location:Carmel, IN Blu-ray collection:478 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:3	even with my wimpy @$$ HTiB there's a HUGE difference... Don't do it man, for the love of GOSH, DONT DO IT Not until you replace your receiver anyway... that's just my OH PEN YAWN...

02-12-2010, 07:26 PM	#5
woodley56 Senior Member Member since:Jul 2009 Location:Pittsburgh, PA 4K collection:55 Blu-ray collection:217 iTunes collection:1 Trading Score:125	Why don't you just upgrade to a receive that has multi channel outs?

02-12-2010, 08:36 PM	#8
Pelican170 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Newtown, CT 4K collection:127 Blu-ray collection:735 DVD collection:256 Trading Score:13	What bells and whistles are you wanting that would make you give up the HD sound? to me, all i care about IS the hd sound! half the blurays i have, are solely based on the sound alone...

02-12-2010, 08:49 PM	#11
Kryptonic Suspended Member since:Jul 2009 Trading Score:45	Oppo 80?

02-12-2010, 09:00 PM	#13
Uniquely Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Sep 2008 Location:Mobile, AL Home Theater Gallery:14 Blu-ray collection:171	I think how big of a difference it makes depends upon your audio system. I do notice a difference, and I definitely prefer the lossles... but I would not describe the difference as HUGE. If I had to choose between lossles audio and streaming Netflix... I would PROBABLY pick the Netflix... but that's a choice I really wouldn't want to have to make. Have you thought about just getting a separate box for streaming, like a Roku or a Popcorn or something?

02-12-2010, 09:06 PM	#14
threefiftyrocket Blu-ray Guru Member since:Apr 2009 Location:Carmel, IN Blu-ray collection:478 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:3	to me it is huge... I can definitely tell a difference by putting on the HD tracks... to everyone it is different tho. I can BARELY tell the difference between 1080i and 1080p, and in some instances I can't at all, and the whole DNR issue with GONY and Gladiator... I honestly can't see it, but that's my vision. I am an audiophile, however, so the lossless/uncompressed vs. DD 5.1 and DTS 5.1 core is a HUGE difference to me.

02-12-2010, 09:52 PM	#15
42041 Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Oct 2008	i like lossless sound but i'm not obsessed with it. i've seen more than adequate evidence that people will hear exactly what they want to hear. sometimes i'll listen to the lossy track just to spite audiophiles

02-13-2010, 03:47 AM	#18
FendersRule Special Member Member since:Oct 2008 Location:ID Home Theater Gallery:16 Blu-ray collection:81 Blu-ray reviews:5 Trading Score:15	lossless or go home. 1080p or go home.

02-13-2010, 01:44 PM	#19
Trip Active Member Member since:Nov 2008 Location:South Carolina Home Theater Gallery:48 4K collection:345 Blu-ray collection:1515 DVD collection:63 iTunes collection:1 Blu-ray reviews:3	I upgraded my receiver at Thanksgiving from an older Sony using optical in to an Onkyo 607 with HDMI, and I've gotta say that there is a HUGE difference with True HD / Master Audio. I'm not an audiophile by any means, but trust me here, it's a lot easier to move from DD 5.1 or DD+ to HD Audio that it is to go backwards. Keep the player and spend your money on a new receiver instead. You won't be disappointed.

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