Is Blu-ray the End all, Be All?

[capitaltpt]

or rather, is current HD resolution the end all be all?

I'm well aware that the way the picture is displayed will change in the coming years with 3D, etc., but do you think we'll ever really see a home theater media delivering more than 1080p resolution go mainstream?

I'm aware that things like Quad-HD and Super-HD are in the works, but with TV sizes in homes averaging between 42" and 65" would a higher resolution make enough of a difference to become mainstream? I'm thinking not.

[brett_day]

Originally Posted by capitaltpt

or rather, is current HD resolution the end all be all?

I'm well aware that the way the picture is displayed will change in the coming years with 3D, etc., but do you think we'll ever really see a home theater media delivering more than 1080p resolution go mainstream?

I'm aware that things like Quad-HD and Super-HD are in the works, but with TV sizes in homes averaging between 42" and 65" would a higher resolution make enough of a difference to become mainstream? I'm thinking not.

whether it goes mainstream or not there will always be advances, and there will always be people who will put down silly money to get the newest and greatest when it first comes out. 1440p will be the next step....

[md99]

Imagine the size of the TV you would need to get the best out of a movie shot in Ultra HD resolution

Can't really see it going mainstream, might probably be restricted to compatible projectors and huge pull down screens though.

[Blu-ray Fanatic]

There will always be advancements in technology but IMO anything over 1080p is just sick.

[surfdude12]

at least for 10 years, i'd think. didn't DVD go about 10 years till blu-ray show up?

[md99]

I wonder if Netflix et al will stream Ultra HD content?

[Blu-ray Fanatic]

Originally Posted by surfdude12

at least for 10 years, i'd think. didn't DVD go about 10 years till blu-ray show up?

I think dvd showed up in 1998 and blu-ray in 2006.

[Q?]

As far as I'm concerned, YES!

I still get amazed at the details and colors whenever I watch a movie, I can't imagine how it should be better...

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by capitaltpt

or rather, is current HD resolution the end all be all?

I'm well aware that the way the picture is displayed will change in the coming years with 3D, etc., but do you think we'll ever really see a home theater media delivering more than 1080p resolution go mainstream?

I'm aware that things like Quad-HD and Super-HD are in the works, but with TV sizes in homes averaging between 42" and 65" would a higher resolution make enough of a difference to become mainstream? I'm thinking not.

1) I hope so, I want the best pic and audio possible why not keep improving.
2) who cares about the average, it is what each one has, my screen is 10' wide
3) the issue with averages that they are constantly growing, and lately have been growing fast, who's to say what the average TV size will be in 10 years or 20 or 30? if in the 30's people said the average TV size is 10"-15" would it be relevant today? Obviously a TV can't grow to bigger then the room so there is a max in that, but 42" or even 65" still leaves a lot of place for growth. In the old days it was a lot more limited with depth (CRT tube or RPTV) and weight but with flat panels the growth has been easier.

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by Blu-ray Fanatic

I think dvd showed up in 1998 and blu-ray in 2006.

Nov 1996 Japan/ March 1997 in the US

[Afrobean]

TV screen sizes would pretty much need to triple in order to get any advantage from a higher resolution than Blu-ray provides.

I mean, it will happen eventually, but I don't think it'd catch on with anyone but the videophiles with 100+ inch screens. Us people down on earth with 30 inches, 40 inches, even 60 inches... we stand to gain nothing by upgrading to a higher resolution. Most people don't even take full advantage of their 1080p. A lot of people with 1080p sets sit so far back that a 720p set would look the same.

That said, I look forward to the day still. Sadly though, films made between the late nineties and about now are locked in to 2K resolution permanently due to being mastered as digital intermediates. So you're never going to be able to enjoy greats like Star Wars Episode II or Batman & Robin in anything higher than 2K, even if new screens come out, even if new software standards come out. Not to mention films shot digitally too.

[Suntory_Times]

Originally Posted by Afrobean

TV screen sizes would pretty much need to triple in order to get any advantage from a higher resolution than Blu-ray provides.

I mean, it will happen eventually, but I don't think it'd catch on with anyone but the videophiles with 100+ inch screens. Us people down on earth with 30 inches, 40 inches, even 60 inches... we stand to gain nothing by upgrading to a higher resolution. Most people don't even take full advantage of their 1080p. A lot of people with 1080p sets sit so far back that a 720p set would look the same.

That said, I look forward to the day still. Sadly though, films made between the late nineties and about now are locked in to 2K resolution permanently due to being mastered as digital intermediates. So you're never going to be able to enjoy greats like Star Wars Episode II or Batman & Robin in anything higher than 2K, even if new screens come out, even if new software standards come out. Not to mention films shot digitally too.

Batman and Robin was not edited with a DI and Star Wars 2 and 3 where shot at the same resolution as blu ray. Imho, there really nothing to gain above uncompressed 2K for normal home or cinema use (imax is a different story), assuming you roughly follow thx viewing distance to screen size rules/reccomendations. Also I believe the first film to use a DI was Amelie in 2001. That bieng said in terms of a mass adopted product blu ray is already overkill for most consumers.

[icyteddy]

I think any resolution over 1080P such as 4K and above will need a 20 foot screen to make use of that kind of resolution.

Personally for me I am just waiting for some kind of holodeck to replace television in this century.

[Muscleduck]

UHDV is sick, that's 33MP on each frame! Imagine the bandwidth and CPU power needed to process video on that scale!

[danfaz]

Originally Posted by Afrobean

. Most people don't even take full advantage of their 1080p. A lot of people with 1080p sets sit so far back that a 720p set would look the same.

Yep, I'm in that boat. I bought a 32" 1080P TV before I got my blu-ray player & HT system. I have to sit no more than 8 feet away to really see the difference from 720P.

[fettastic]

I think 1080p is at the edges of diminishing returns. Considering that even some 1080p reproductions are woefully absent of increased resolution over the 480i versions, I don't think going to a higher resolution standard will do much good.

[radagast]

For many years CRT TVs went through changes that improved PQ. I think we will see better and better 1080p TVs as improvements come to these newer and less mature technologies.

[wallendo]

I suspect home video will remain at 1080p for a very long time.
1140p and eventually 2160p displays may become available to high-end users, but they will primarily be used to view upconverted 1080p video. 1080p is good enough for 99% of the population - of course, the other 1% consists of primarily blu-ray.com posters.

Some things are slow to change, HDTV planning started in the 1980's and has only recently become dominant.

DVD-A and SACD never became mainstream because most consumers were happy with CD quality. In fact, music distribution is moving from uncompressed (CD) to lossy-compressed audio (mp3 and mp4(aac)).

[danfaz]

Originally Posted by wallendo

In fact, music distribution is moving from uncompressed (CD) to lossy-compressed audio (mp3 and mp4(aac)).

That's a good point!

[3Stooges]

Originally Posted by Afrobean

TSadly though, films made between the late nineties and about now are locked in to 2K resolution permanently due to being mastered as digital intermediates. So you're never going to be able to enjoy greats like Star Wars Episode II or Batman & Robin in anything higher than 2K,

"greats" = "Batman & Robin" ???: