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Old 06-02-2011, 01:20 AM   #1
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We're live from Microsoft Windows president Steven Sinofsky's keynote at D9, and there's something rather exciting on stage -- a pair of experimental Windows 8 dev boards running an OS that looks very much like Windows Phone 7's Metro UI. All Things D actually sat down with the man earlier today and got a sneak peek at what to expect starting with the live tiled screen you see above -- and yes, like Windows Phone 7, this OS is designed for touch.

There'll be two kinds of applications for Windows 8, one that runs in a traditional desktop, and the other pseudo-mobile apps based on HTML5 and Javascript, but both environments -- rather, the entire OS -- have been designed from the ground up for touchscreen use. Keyboard and mouse will still be options for both sets of programs, but there are multiple virtual sets of keys for different form factors, including a split keyboard for vertical slate use. Multitasking is simply a matter of swiping running apps into the center of the screen, and you can pull windows partway to "snap" them in place alongside other windows -- even mixing and matching traditional desktop programs with web apps simultaneously (like Twitter alongside your spreadsheet). There's a new version of Internet Explorer 10 (which runs Silverlight) and an app store built into the touchscreen interface, along with integrated services like Office 365. Microsoft says the new OS will run on laptops, tablets and desktops when it appears -- whenever that might be.

All Things D didn't have any details on when we'll get pricing or availability, but we're looking at some Intel Atom-based demo units on stage right now, and Microsoft says it will have ARM designs (the OS will support NVIDIA, TI and Qualcomm) viewable on the Computex show floor, and more will be revealed at the Build Windows developer conference in September. We should note that "Windows 8" is just a codename for what we're seeing here -- "we'll figure out the real name in due time," Sinofsky told the crowd -- but we don't see much harm in calling it Windows 8 for now.








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* Minimum of 1366 x 768 resolution for the best Windows 8 experience. 1024 x 768 will be the absolute minimum for the new UI and 1024 x 600 will let you run Windows 8 in the classic desktop mode.
* Will run on SoC's.
* “Windows 8 will be able to run on a wide range of machines because it will have the same system requirements or lower.”
* UEFI engagement will help with speeding up boot times. “I’ve seen systems with SSDs inside them that can go from a cold boot to the Start screen in under 6 seconds.”
* Same app's on x86 or ARM
* App store
* Launching with IE10
"What you need to know" Click spoiler

[Show spoiler]What Windows 8 features did Microsoft demonstrate?

Essentially, Microsoft showed how Windows 8 will work on both tablets and traditional PCs. The operating system's home screen is filled with big, touchable panels, like the live tiles in Windows Phone 7, and from there you can tap and swipe your way to other touch-based applications. But underneath that touchy layer is plain old Windows, with a task bar, file manager, app icons--everything.

How does the touch interface work?

From the start menu, which shows basic information like time and unread e-mail counts, users swipe upwards to reveal the home screen and its tiles. As with Windows Phone 7, apps can show some information within the tiles--users needn't click on the weather app to see the current temperature, for example. Swiping from the right bezel brings up a menu that can take users from an app back to the home screen.

Users can multitask between open apps by swiping across from the left bezel. And therein lies the coolest-looking feature of Windows 8: When swiping in a new app, users can snap it in place next to the app that's currently running. This allows users to view two apps at the same time--something that no existing tablet OS can do.

How will Windows 8 apps work?

Microsoft says it's created a new kind of app for Windows 8 using HTML5 and Javascript, and they're a lot like the apps you'd expect to find on a tablet. A weather app shows the five-day forecast. A news reader displays stories and thumbnail images in big, rectangular panes. Microsoft also showed off Internet Explorer 10, which is optimized for touch. Presumably Microsoft will distribute these apps through its own store--there's a "Store" tile in the version of Windows 8 that Microsoft demonstrated--but the company offered no details.

What about existing Windows apps, such as Office and Photoshop?

They'll still work. Loading one of these apps will bring up a more familiar version of Windows. According to All Things Digital, classic Windows apps will use "fuzzy hit targeting" to aid finger taps, but they won't be optimized for the touch screen like Windows 8's HTML5/Javascript concoctions. Legacy apps can, however, run side by side with the new Windows 8 apps.

But what about Windows PCs running on ARM chips? Will legacy apps run on those devices?

It's conceivable that ARM-based Windows devices will be restricted to the touch-centric user interface in Windows 8, but Microsoft hasn't made any announcements on that front. In fact, Microsoft recently denied claims made by an Intel executive about which apps will run on ARM-based Windows machines. Intel's Renee James had said to expect at least four versions of Windows for ARM processors, and that none of these versions would be compatible with apps from Windows XP, Vista or 7. Microsoft said these statements were "factually inaccurate and unfortunately misleading," but didn't clarify the matter with any details. In other words, the question is still unanswered.

When's the Windows 8 release date?

Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer has said that Windows 8 will launch in 2012, but the company hasn't been any more specific than that. Expect more details on Windows 8 in September, when Microsoft will hold the BUILD conference for developers. For now, check out Microsoft's first video of Windows 8 in action.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/22928...d_to_know.html


i must say, i'm impressed. can't wait to try it out

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I'm looking forward to trying out the beta.
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I'm really looking forward to this. It looks like Microsoft has a great idea for tablets. I hope it's as good as it looks.
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Looks drastically different.
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Looks terrible
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Old 06-02-2011, 03:43 AM   #6
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Looks better than whatever the latest mac os is
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Call me primitive, but I prefer a mouse and keyboard over touch screen. Heck, I've got a windows XP, Vista, and 7 computer in the house and my XP computer runs the smoothest. Give me reliability not new shiny gizmos and restrictions.
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Call me primitive, but I prefer a mouse and keyboard over touch screen. Heck, I've got a windows XP, Vista, and 7 computer in the house and my XP computer runs the smoothest. Give me reliability not new shiny gizmos and restrictions.
you're still welcome to use a keyboard and mouse and/or switch to classic windows grandpa, no worries

also, if xp runs smoother than 7, something is wrong
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I like that they split the keyboard, I should download that split keyboard to my Xoom.
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Is this the version that's supposed to work finally?
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Goodie! I hope they're real competitive.
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Is this the version that's supposed to work finally?
let's keep your biased opinion away from this thread
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What in the world. This thread has destroyed it self!
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I'm in after service pack 2

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So, Windows 8 is basically a 3.5GB* app.

*Give or take 500MB


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ok i'll bite i suppose. what's wrong with 8?
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I don't know. But at least half the stuff will be ironed out by Service Pack 2.
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I don't know. But at least half the stuff will be ironed out by Service Pack 2.
how long are you going to wait until you upgrade to lion?
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