Sin City Audio oddity - Blu-ray Forum

Caesu · 02-24-2010, 08:18 PM

Was watching Sin City after the longest time after getting it back from a friend finally. I noticed that at certain point of conversations, there is a high pitched frequency in the background like it was overcompressed. I thought it was my speakers or receiver (biting my nails). However, when i tried any other disc, there was no problems.

Maybe its my copy of Sin City? Its the Special Edition version. Anyone else notice this in their playback?

SammyG · 02-24-2010, 08:21 PM

I noticed it also.

Johk · 02-24-2010, 08:29 PM

I noticed it too and posted a couple of times about it in the Sin City thread...

It's present on every release I've owned so far:
- Frank Miller's Sin City (Recut & Extended Edition) [DVD] from Alliance (Canada)
- Sin City [Blu-ray] from Alliance (Canada)
- Sin City (Two-Disc Theatrical & Recut, Extended, and Unrated Versions) [Blu-ray] from Dimension (US)

Caesu · 02-24-2010, 08:35 PM

That's a comfort knowing Im not alone on it. It's distracting for sure from an otherwise great audio track.

the first thought I had was I blew a tweeter and it was hissing everytime it hit a certain range. tried other discs, no problems, as well as a frequency sweep from a test disc.

I should have searched the Sin City threads for it if it was brought up previously.

Suprised the main reviews dont mention this though.

Johk · 02-24-2010, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Caesu

Surprised the main reviews dont mention this though.

I'm surprised as well but then again I didn't notice it on the DVD release until I got the Blu-ray. The sad thing is that now I can't help but notice it.

Blu-Dog · 02-25-2010, 01:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caesu

Was watching Sin City after the longest time after getting it back from a friend finally. I noticed that at certain point of conversations, there is a high pitched frequency in the background like it was overcompressed. I thought it was my speakers or receiver (biting my nails). However, when i tried any other disc, there was no problems.

Maybe its my copy of Sin City? Its the Special Edition version. Anyone else notice this in their playback?

Never noticed it. I've watched it maybe three times. Any specific scene where it's obvious?

BluRayFiend · 02-25-2010, 01:21 AM

THANK GOD FINALLY!!! SOMEONE NOTICED THIS I TOLD MY FRIEND HE DIDN'T BELIEVE ME ITS THROUGHOUT THE HOLE MOVIE ON BLU RAY AND DVD !!!

I SWAPPED OUT 3 DVD COPIES AT WALMART ALL THE SAME ITS IN THE AUDIO
FOR GOOD I ASSUME

AND WHAT REALLY PISSES ME OFF THEY RATE THE AUDIO SO GREAT WHEN HALF THE MOVIE YOU HEAR THIS

AN ON BLU RAY WHAT A WASTE OF MY MONEY AN THE STUDIOS MONEY THIS TO ME IS WORSE THEN GLADIATOR AND GANGS OF NEW YORK !!!!

AND IM SURE THIS WILL NEVER BE CORRECTED!! THANKS GOD SOMEONE FINALLY POSTED THIS WHAT A LET DOWN OF A BLU!!!!!

BluRayFiend · 02-25-2010, 01:23 AM

AND THE FACT THAT ALL THE SITES RATE THIS AUDIO 5 STARS WHAT A BUNCH OF CRAP ARE THEY HARD OF HEARING???

progers13 · 02-25-2010, 01:25 AM

I noticed it as well. I can't say I remember noticing it on DVD, but it definitely caught my ear and annoyed me for 2 hours on blu. I thought it was my center speaker, which I promptly went out and upgraded the next day. I haven't listened to it again since then, but I'll have to do that now that you've reminded me.

BluRayFiend · 02-25-2010, 01:26 AM

ALSO I'VE TRIED EVERY SOUND SETTING POSSIBLE TO TRICK MYSELF YOU HEAR IT ON EVERY ONE MAN SORRY GUYS BUT THIS GETS TO ME SUCH A GREAT VIDEO TRANSFER BUT THE AUDIO IS STILL CRAP!!!

progers13 · 02-25-2010, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by BluRayFiend

ALSO I'VE TRIED EVERY SOUND SETTING POSSIBLE TO TRICK MYSELF YOU HEAR IT ON EVERY ONE MAN SORRY GUYS BUT THIS GETS TO ME SUCH A GREAT VIDEO TRANSFER BUT THE AUDIO IS STILL CRAP!!!

If it occurs on the DVD and other versions as well, it is a mastering issue and not a product of the transfer. I only bring this up because 1) You're not likely to ever be rid of it on subsequent releases and 2) Most review sites (including this one) place great emphasis on transfers being true to the original. So, if that is how Rodriguez et al wanted it (for whatever reason), and was on the theatrical release that way, then the audio scores tend to reflect that even if it doesn't sound so great to some of us. As an example (albeit perhaps a poor one), The Wrestler gets high scores for PQ nearly everwhere I go. This has got to be one of the grittiest, grainiest, unattractive picture I have ever seen. But it was true to the original, so people score it high. Whatever happened to scoring based on the quality of the cinematography, and if the cinematography (or audio) is awful, then why shouldn't the score be reduced regardless of how true the transfer is?

But I digress...

Caesu · 02-25-2010, 04:46 PM

Well whatever the reasoning is, Sin city sounds like it was recorded through a crapping out old Sound Blaster 16 PCI to be honest.

I see that some speakers 'hide' this distortion better then others maybe since not everyone can hear it. Perhaps its also that all of us have a different level of hearing, or a combination of both.

Im going on a limb here thinking horn based speakers will probaly reflect this frequency more then others perhaps since they tend to be on the bright side.

For myself I can hear it. Its totally distracting. I never heard it in the theater as far as I could remember also albeit this movie is around 1/2 a decade old.

Id agree to a 5/5 AQ, however, 2/5 for me. Just rubbish as it is right now. Its the only movie out of my 60 blurays that does this, so Im ruling out audio equipment as a fault.

Its almost reminds me of how some people could see rainbows on DLPs and others could not. i cannot see any rainbows on DLP nor anyone who has watched mine has ever brought it up. I guess it all ends up on what side of the fence you fell over.

RocShemp · 02-28-2010, 04:43 PM

It's a mastering issue. Kill Bill, Vol. 2 and The Kingdom have the same high pitched hum. On The Kingdom it's pretty darn loud in the FBI conference room scene.

ClaytonMG · 03-04-2010, 04:52 AM

I remember when this DVD came out, I mentioned it and no one else believed me until a few days after I posted that I caught it. It almost sounds like the high pitched sound of a monitor was picked up on set or something. I'm glad other people took notice now though.

RedIsNotBlue · 03-04-2010, 05:19 AM

I was aware of this problem all the way back in early 2009 when I read this review.

http://project-blu.com/reviews/sin_city.html

I am surprised some of you are just realizing it now...lol.

lDlisturb3d · 03-04-2010, 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by RocShemp

It's a mastering issue. Kill Bill, Vol. 2 and The Kingdom have the same high pitched hum. On The Kingdom it's pretty darn loud in the FBI conference room scene.

Hell Yeah loud as hell, i thought something was wrong with my blu ray

STARSCREAM · 03-04-2010, 08:02 AM

This hum is the reason I never bought the dvd or the blu-ray. I had hoped it wouldn't be there on the blu-ray but it was.

Codyblaze · 03-04-2010, 11:52 AM

Do you hear it on both the re-cut and the whole film? The re-cuts are all I have watched on the Blu, and I haven't noticed this at all. And I have horn-based Klipsch towers and surrounds, which should indeed make it more noticeable.

RedIsNotBlue · 03-04-2010, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Codyblaze

Do you hear it on both the re-cut and the whole film? The re-cuts are all I have watched on the Blu, and I haven't noticed this at all. And I have horn-based Klipsch towers and surrounds, which should indeed make it more noticeable.

If you noticed in the year old review I posted it mentions that this sound may not be noticeable to some.

JJ · 03-24-2010, 04:37 PM

Oh wow, I noticed this back when I bought the Alliance import.

Didn't think it was as widespread as this - but I have noticed that hum in a few other movies as well.

02-24-2010, 08:18 PM	#1
Caesu Special Member Member since:Jan 2010 Blu-ray collection:532 Blu-ray reviews:16	Sin City Audio oddity Was watching Sin City after the longest time after getting it back from a friend finally. I noticed that at certain point of conversations, there is a high pitched frequency in the background like it was overcompressed. I thought it was my speakers or receiver (biting my nails). However, when i tried any other disc, there was no problems. Maybe its my copy of Sin City? Its the Special Edition version. Anyone else notice this in their playback?

02-24-2010, 08:29 PM	#3
Johk Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Jul 2007 Blu-ray collection:645 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:2	I noticed it too and posted a couple of times about it in the Sin City thread... It's present on every release I've owned so far: - Frank Miller's Sin City (Recut & Extended Edition) [DVD] from Alliance (Canada) - Sin City [Blu-ray] from Alliance (Canada) - Sin City (Two-Disc Theatrical & Recut, Extended, and Unrated Versions) [Blu-ray] from Dimension (US) Last edited by Johk; 02-24-2010 at 08:37 PM.

02-25-2010, 04:46 PM	#12
Caesu Special Member Member since:Jan 2010 Blu-ray collection:532 Blu-ray reviews:16	Well whatever the reasoning is, Sin city sounds like it was recorded through a crapping out old Sound Blaster 16 PCI to be honest. I see that some speakers 'hide' this distortion better then others maybe since not everyone can hear it. Perhaps its also that all of us have a different level of hearing, or a combination of both. Im going on a limb here thinking horn based speakers will probaly reflect this frequency more then others perhaps since they tend to be on the bright side. For myself I can hear it. Its totally distracting. I never heard it in the theater as far as I could remember also albeit this movie is around 1/2 a decade old. Id agree to a 5/5 AQ, however, 2/5 for me. Just rubbish as it is right now. Its the only movie out of my 60 blurays that does this, so Im ruling out audio equipment as a fault. Its almost reminds me of how some people could see rainbows on DLPs and others could not. i cannot see any rainbows on DLP nor anyone who has watched mine has ever brought it up. I guess it all ends up on what side of the fence you fell over. Last edited by Caesu; 02-25-2010 at 04:51 PM.

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02-24-2010, 08:21 PM	#2
SammyG Special Member Member since:Feb 2009 Location:Douglassville, PA Blu-ray collection:1034 Trading Score:7	I noticed it also.

02-24-2010, 08:35 PM	#4
Caesu Special Member Member since:Jan 2010 Blu-ray collection:532 Blu-ray reviews:16	That's a comfort knowing Im not alone on it. It's distracting for sure from an otherwise great audio track. the first thought I had was I blew a tweeter and it was hissing everytime it hit a certain range. tried other discs, no problems, as well as a frequency sweep from a test disc. I should have searched the Sin City threads for it if it was brought up previously. Suprised the main reviews dont mention this though.

02-25-2010, 01:21 AM	#7
BluRayFiend Senior Member Member since:Oct 2008	THANK GOD FINALLY!!! SOMEONE NOTICED THIS I TOLD MY FRIEND HE DIDN'T BELIEVE ME ITS THROUGHOUT THE HOLE MOVIE ON BLU RAY AND DVD !!! I SWAPPED OUT 3 DVD COPIES AT WALMART ALL THE SAME ITS IN THE AUDIO FOR GOOD I ASSUME AND WHAT REALLY PISSES ME OFF THEY RATE THE AUDIO SO GREAT WHEN HALF THE MOVIE YOU HEAR THIS AN ON BLU RAY WHAT A WASTE OF MY MONEY AN THE STUDIOS MONEY THIS TO ME IS WORSE THEN GLADIATOR AND GANGS OF NEW YORK !!!! AND IM SURE THIS WILL NEVER BE CORRECTED!! THANKS GOD SOMEONE FINALLY POSTED THIS WHAT A LET DOWN OF A BLU!!!!!

02-25-2010, 01:23 AM	#8
BluRayFiend Senior Member Member since:Oct 2008	AND THE FACT THAT ALL THE SITES RATE THIS AUDIO 5 STARS WHAT A BUNCH OF CRAP ARE THEY HARD OF HEARING???

02-25-2010, 01:25 AM	#9
progers13 Blu-ray Baron Top ranked HT gallery Top contributor Member since:Aug 2009 Location:Tampa, FL Home Theater Gallery:83 Blu-ray collection:337 Blu-ray reviews: 3 Trading Score:2	I noticed it as well. I can't say I remember noticing it on DVD, but it definitely caught my ear and annoyed me for 2 hours on blu. I thought it was my center speaker, which I promptly went out and upgraded the next day. I haven't listened to it again since then, but I'll have to do that now that you've reminded me.

02-25-2010, 01:26 AM	#10
BluRayFiend Senior Member Member since:Oct 2008	ALSO I'VE TRIED EVERY SOUND SETTING POSSIBLE TO TRICK MYSELF YOU HEAR IT ON EVERY ONE MAN SORRY GUYS BUT THIS GETS TO ME SUCH A GREAT VIDEO TRANSFER BUT THE AUDIO IS STILL CRAP!!!

02-28-2010, 04:43 PM	#13
RocShemp Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Jul 2009 Blu-ray reviews:2	It's a mastering issue. Kill Bill, Vol. 2 and The Kingdom have the same high pitched hum. On The Kingdom it's pretty darn loud in the FBI conference room scene.

03-04-2010, 04:52 AM	#14
ClaytonMG Blu-ray Samurai Member since:May 2006 Location:New Brighton, MN Home Theater Gallery:16 4K collection:833 Blu-ray collection:2370 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:1	I remember when this DVD came out, I mentioned it and no one else believed me until a few days after I posted that I caught it. It almost sounds like the high pitched sound of a monitor was picked up on set or something. I'm glad other people took notice now though.

03-04-2010, 05:19 AM	#15
RedIsNotBlue Blu-ray Ninja Member since:May 2007 Blu-ray collection:503 Digital collection:10 Trading Score:226	I was aware of this problem all the way back in early 2009 when I read this review. http://project-blu.com/reviews/sin_city.html I am surprised some of you are just realizing it now...lol.

03-04-2010, 08:02 AM	#17
STARSCREAM Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Feb 2008 Location:Dagobah Blu-ray collection:148 Trading Score:67	This hum is the reason I never bought the dvd or the blu-ray. I had hoped it wouldn't be there on the blu-ray but it was.

03-04-2010, 11:52 AM	#18
Codyblaze Active Member Member since:Feb 2010 Location:Plantation, FL 4K collection:134 Blu-ray collection:2746 DVD collection:6797 Trading Score:1	Do you hear it on both the re-cut and the whole film? The re-cuts are all I have watched on the Blu, and I haven't noticed this at all. And I have horn-based Klipsch towers and surrounds, which should indeed make it more noticeable.

03-24-2010, 04:37 PM	#20
JJ Blu-ray Count Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Miami, FL Home Theater Gallery:99 4K collection:619 Blu-ray collection:1293 DVD collection:31 Digital collection:5 Blu-ray reviews: 18 Trading Score:203	Oh wow, I noticed this back when I bought the Alliance import. Didn't think it was as widespread as this - but I have noticed that hum in a few other movies as well.

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