Seperate Review threads being merged with general threads.

[sanjay0864]

Several new threads I started with reviews of various Indian Blu-rays have been closed and the post merged with older general threads. The whole idea of starting a seperate thread for the review of a particular title is to make it easier for people to find the reviews. If the reviews are merged into the middle of much older, very long threads, they get lost amongst the hundreds of posts and it becomes impossible for people to find the reviews. At the very least, it makes the task of finding the review very tiresome and difficult for those that are interested in them, as they have to go through several 'very long' threads just to find the review they are looking for. I would request the adminstrators, to allow 'Review' threads to be seperated from the general thread for a particular title.

It takes a lot of effort and time to do these reviews and if they are to just be merged with a general thread where the review gets lost and ultimately not many can benefit from, makes the excercise a waste. Thus in future, I personally shall not be wasting my time and putting in so much effort to post reviews.

PS: One would think it is common courtesy to give a reason, or at the least inform, the person whose thread or post has been moved, edited or deleted.

[Jadoogar]

Oh , Bro .. Feeling very sorry for u .. i have read almost all of ur reviews , they are very good & informative .

I think we should go like this .. Make one Thread "Sanjay's BD Reviews" In that First post will contain links to all subsequent BD reviews which will be updated in that thread laterz ( as releases comes) .

One review Thread specially for Sanjay Bro

Waiting for mods discretion about this thing.

[pro-bassoonist]

Originally Posted by sanjay0864

Several new threads I started with reviews of various Indian Blu-rays have been closed and the post merged with older general threads.

Good morning,

Your threads were moved/merged because:

1. You opened a thread copying an old post/review which you produced on 12/27/09:

https://forum.blu-ray.com/2695337-post41.html

2. It is actually better to have all comments/reviews in one thread. Example: all discussions addressing Jodhaa Akbar should be in the Jodhaa Akbar thread Kailashu started.

Thank you.

Pro-B

[sanjay0864]

Originally Posted by Jadoogar

I think we should go like this .. Make one Thread "Sanjay's BD Reviews" In that First post will contain links to all subsequent BD reviews which will be updated in that thread laterz ( as releases comes).

Actually this is exactly what I had planned and was working on. But as I was in the middle of doing this, when suddenly the links to the 'review' threads stopped working.

[sanjay0864]

Originally Posted by pro-bassoonist

Good morning,

Your threads were moved/merged because:

1. You opened a thread copying an old post/review which you produced on 12/27/09:

https://forum.blu-ray.com/2695337-post41.html

2. It is actually better to have all comments/reviews in one thread. Example: all discussions addressing Jodhaa Akbar should be in the Jodhaa Akbar thread Kailashu started.

Thank you.

Pro-B

Actually I was not simply copying my "old post/review", rather I was in the process of expanding on my earlier comments with more in-depth reviews of the Blu-rays. Also, in the case of the 'REVIEW: Jodhaa Akbar (Bodega)' thread, it is a brand new review. My older review was for the BIG Home Video 'Jodhaa Akbar' BD.

Since, people quite regularly keep asking for reviews which already exist, but are obviously hard to find. For eg. https://forum.blu-ray.com/india/1394...ml#post3158107
Towards making this easy for all, I was planning to have a common 'review' thread, which shall include all Blu-Rays that have been reviewed with links to the actual 'review' threads. https://forum.blu-ray.com/india/1395...ml#post3162359

Therefore I would request that this be reconsidered and 'review' threads be allowed to be seperate from the general discussion threads.

[aatmaaraam]

Well Well Hello Mods! My post in this thread has been deleted. Can any one cite the reason?

[sanjay0864]

Originally Posted by aatmaaraam

Well Well Hello Mods! My post in this thread has been deleted. Can any one cite the reason?

Yeah, posts have a nasty habit of dissapearing around here. Welcome to the world of 'Blu-ray.com'. The censorship standards, atleast in this, the International - India section of the forum, are quite rigid and very liberally enforced.

PS: Since I did not even get to read your post, this is in no way a comment on what you may have posted or for that matter nor am I advocating or supporting censorship. Just stating how things are around here and with no malice towards anyone.

[Johnny Vinyl]

John

[aatmaaraam]

In my opinion whatever I posted, there was nothing inflammable into that post. Actually I had quoted pro-bassoonist. May be it has something to do with this. Hope this does not get deleted. Looks like I have to keep a Backup Copy of my comments...

[desiblu]

Start a general review thread. And post the link.

[sanjay0864]

Originally Posted by aatmaaraam

In my opinion whatever I posted, there was nothing inflammable into that post. Actually I had quoted pro-bassoonist. May be it has something to do with this. Hope this does not get deleted. Looks like I have to keep a Backup Copy of my comments...

Based on my experience on this forum, posts that show dissent and or are in disagreement with reviewers/adminstrators/moderators, inflammable or not, are not permissable. Atleast not in the International-India section. Maybe your post fell in this category, which might explain why it was deleted.

PS: I hope I am not exceeding the boundaries of the forum censors. Would hate to have my posts deleted, or even worse be banned or susspended.

[sanjay0864]

Originally Posted by desiblu

Start a general review thread. And post the link.

I already did. https://forum.blu-ray.com/india/1395...ml#post3162359

[sanjay0864]

Duplicate post. Please Ignore.

[Johnny Vinyl]

Originally Posted by sanjay0864

Based on my experience on this forum, posts that show dissent and or are in disagreement with reviewers/adminstrators/moderators, inflammable or not, are not permissable. Atleast not in the International-India section. Maybe your post fell in this category, which might explain why it was deleted.

PS: I hope I am not exceeding the boundaries of the forum censors. Would hate to have my posts deleted, or even worse be banned or susspended.

As a long-time member and follower (although not poster) of various threads, you're assumption holds no validity. The rules and conditions of posting and conduct have been explained to you on numerous occasions, but you seem to not pay heed to them, and instead preferring an approach that always borders on confrontation. I have yet to read anything you have written about this site that you feel is positive. Why are you here?

John

[aatmaaraam]

Hi John! You are right most of the time Sanjay is found to be negative. But tell us one thing if there is nothing positive about it, are you going to lie? Idiom follows -

Sachchai hamesha kadwi hoti hai

The only positive thing I see is that at least Bolly Titles are releasing on blu-ray. But remember QUALITY IS BETTER THAN QUANTITY. Best example is Jodhaa Akbar - Everyone can compare Bodega vs Indian ones. Bodega wins hands down. Bolly Cos. / Studios are the Owner, its produced in India but someone non-Indian has done the best job on it. Except a few Indian Titles major has been disappointing. Its better to release 1 title a year but for god's sake, do it properly.

Its a forum & the members has the right to put their views forward, whether negative or positive but in the boundaries.

[Johnny Vinyl]

Originally Posted by aatmaaraam

Hi John! You are right most of the time Sanjay is found to be negative. But tell us one thing if there is nothing positive about it, are you going to lie? Idiom follows -

Sachchai hamesha kadwi hoti hai

The only positive thing I see is that at least Bolly Titles are releasing on blu-ray. But remember QUALITY IS BETTER THAN QUANTITY. Best example is Jodhaa Akbar - Everyone can compare Bodega vs Indian ones. Bodega wins hands down. Bolly Cos. / Studios are the Owner, its produced in India but someone non-Indian has done the best job on it. Except a few Indian Titles major has been disappointing. Its better to release 1 title a year but for god's sake, do it properly.

Its a forum & the members has the right to put their views forward, whether negative or positive but in the boundaries.

Hi aatmaaraam,

Every member does have that right and that right is well respected here by all. In fact, it is more respected here than most forums I've been a part of. Sanjay just seems to enjoy pushing those boundaries and that is not something particularly appreciated by the membership at large.

If one is going to be part of a community please live within the boundaries set out in the rules. If you can't do that, well...don't expect a whole lot of compassion for your own personal agenda.

There is no doubt in mind that Sanjay is a person of intelligence and considerable knowledge (I've said that before in another thread some time ago), however...he loves to play devil's advocate and has a tendency to incite furor with his comments. I just wish he would settle down and become an active member that can respect the rules and perhaps have something positive to say now and again.

In the meantime I'll just sit here and eat

John

[sanjay0864]

Originally Posted by John72953

As a long-time member and follower (although not poster) of various threads, you're assumption holds no validity. The rules and conditions of posting and conduct have been explained to you on numerous occasions, but you seem to not pay heed to them, and instead preferring an approach that always borders on confrontation. I have yet to read anything you have written about this site that you feel is positive. Why are you here?

John

It is kind of impossible to reply to your post without being accused of being confrontational. It's funny how anyone who feels like it, can step in and attack me personally. I on the other hand don't remember ever attacking anyone personally or speaking negatively about anyone on this forum. Other than of course, in my opinions and posts on products and the companies releasing such products. As for your contention that, "I have yet to read anything you have written about this site that you feel is positive. Why are you here?". Are we supposed to post sermons praising this forum and or how much we love being here? Doesn't the very fact that I am here and participate quite actively, prove that I like the forum and enjoy participating here. Ofcourse nothing in life is perfect and neither is this forum. But it does not need to be perfect, for me to want to participate in it and I intend to do so for as long as there are members who I can share my love for Home Theater and Movies with. I am sure I give as much to this forum, as I receive from it. Thus I certainly do not feel obligated enough, to not speak up for what I think is unjust. In any case, all I wanted was to help, members interested in reading Hindi movie reviews, find them more easily. Am I supposed to be apologetic for wanting to help other forum members? What I truelly do not understand, is why the diferentiation in the 'standard' used to judge the same rules when applied to this section of the forum. I am a 'very long standing member' of several forums, including some very popular ones and I am sure due to the common interests shared by the members of these forums, quite a few of these forums share a considerable portion of the membership too. To date I have never ever had any issues with the admins/moderators at any of the other forums. I am not sure if that proves anything, but you can judge for yourself.

Originally Posted by John72953

As a long-time member and follower (although not poster) of various threads, you're assumption holds no validity.

I am not sure I understand that sentence completely. By "long-time member and follower (although not poster) of various threads" do you mean me or yourself? In any case, how would you know, whether my assumptions are correct? Are you well versed with all my personal experiences? Do you know the contents of the post that has been deleted? Right, I thought so. Please don't assume and pass judgement without knowing all the facts. If you really care to find out the facts, I am sure you know how to.

A 'forum' is only as good as it's membership. It is the members that attract other members to participate in the forum and not... Ofcourse, the moderators/admins have an important role to play and without them any forum could very easily turn into an arena for mud-slinging and name calling. But atleast I think the members themselves should have atleast some inputs as to how a forum conducts itself. Atleast to the extent of being able to honestly and openly voice their opinions and suggestions. It might not be a bad idea for this forum to not always consider, all opinions or suggestions as a criticism of the forum and or it's moderators/administrators.

[aatmaaraam]

John! As you rightly said, Sanjay is one of few members with considerable technical expertise which noobs like me don't have. As he or other knowledgeable member undrstand things, they get more upset then we noobs. Why don't you look at it from this perspective that even after so much bashing against bad releases, we are getting shits. if consumers are not vocal, you will get worst. You guys talk about sentimets of members representing Producers/Studios, have they cared about the Consumer's wishlist. As earlier said We Indians are not able to enjoy our films, whereas West enjoys them more than us due to companies like Bodega.

[sanjay0864]

Originally Posted by John72953

Every member does have that right and that right is well respected here by all. In fact, it is more respected here than most forums I've been a part of. Sanjay just seems to enjoy pushing those boundaries and that is not something particularly appreciated by the membership at large.

Although I don't agree with you on this, atleast not entirely, upon giving it a lot of thought, maybe some of my posts can be construed as being confrontational, thus I shall be more carefull in choosing my words in future. But I seriously don't understand how you can speak on behalf of the "membership at large". Based on the posts by most members, atleast in this section of the forum, they tend to agree with most of my posts. This is definately true atleast as far as the topic of this thread is concerned.

[pro-bassoonist]

Good afternoon,

I would like to clarify a couple of things.

1. It is indeed better to have Sanjay's opinion on certain releases in the proper threads addressing them. Because: a) When members search for info on them - the films/releases - a single thread is easier to locate and b) Because everyone is encouraged to contribute.

2. Posting individual "review" threads implies that somehow the Region-C section has a designated reviewer whose opinion holds more weight than that of the rest of the members contributing here. We are a community, and the only official reviews our community produces are on the main page.

3. Posting individual "review" threads sets a precedent where multiple members could produce their own "review" threads, which would undoubtedly transform this subforum into a large, very difficult to navigate blog. Having one thread where all opinions/"reviews" are gathered is a lot more practical than having ten "review" threads addressing the same release.

4. The Region-C section is indeed regulated according to a set of rules that were introduced by the site administrator because of the inability of a few members to behave according to the general rules and regulations the forum follows - which they had agreed to follow when they joined our community.

5. The rules and regulations the administrator has introduced apply to everyone.

Pro-B