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Old 08-29-2007, 12:51 PM   #1
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Old 08-29-2007, 12:55 PM   #2
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You're link doesn't work, but I think you were talking about this.
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Old 08-29-2007, 03:49 PM   #3
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Just having a road map or spec is not the same as having a shipping product.

Just take the current crop of HVDs. They announced well over a year ago that they would have 300 GB drives and disks shipping before the end of 2006. They claimed they'd have 1.6 TB drives by 2011 at the latest.

What really happened? They started shipping very limited quantities of test samples of drives and disks in December 2006 -- technically shipping product but in such low quantities that you had to be one of their most favored customers to get anything. Then this past summer (2007) they started shipping the drives in limited quantities (or limited production) with projections to "full production" by the end of 2007.

With the schedule slips they've been experiencing I don't expect to see full production of 1 TB (or larger) drives before 2012 at the earliest -- and this is for the enterprise market. I don't expect consumer electronics versions of 1 TB or larger drives before 2017.

Hopefully I'm way too pessimistic. However, I've been involved with the optical media guys since the mid 80s when they were still pushing 14" platters and with holographic storage since before that. Optical media (and holographic storage in particular) has evolved more slowly than the PR would have people believe.
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Old 08-29-2007, 04:01 PM   #4
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You're link doesn't work, but I think you were talking about this.
ROFL

That site is pathetic.. missing links, products out by summer 06??
Face it, TB data discs are not going to be a standard format for probably another decade. I mean we don't even have standard 100 GB yet... they are working on 200 still but you can't get them.
1 TB is HUGE! My computer doesn't even have that!

But lets face it, it was a very ambitious goal for a technology that just isn't ready yet.
Without the support both HD-DVD and Blu-ray already have, HDV has no chance in even getting off the ground!
Wait till 2015, then we will be likely to see this.
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Old 08-29-2007, 04:13 PM   #5
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... we don't even have standard 100 GB yet... they are working on 200 still but you can't get them.
300 GB disks and drives are currently shipping in limited quantities, but only to the enterprise and specialty markets.
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Old 08-29-2007, 04:22 PM   #6
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Perhaps in a specialty field like that one you can get discs that are larger, but I am talking about the consumer market. You can't go to Circuit City/Best buy/Comp USA/Micro Center/Apple Store/etc.. and pick up a 100 GB disc. (Not including hard drives).
50 is the largest you can get and there are still few burners out there that support DL BD burning.

So talk of a 1 TB disc to replace DVDs (~8 GB) is ridiculous. However, once HD media (Blu-ray and/or HD-DVD) are established as a standard, like DVDs are now, I could see TB discs coming into the picture... But like I said, don't expect any serious news on this until sometime in 2015 or later.
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Old 08-29-2007, 04:44 PM   #7
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300 GB disks and drives are currently shipping in limited quantities, but only to the enterprise and specialty markets.
TB hard drives aren't even mainstream yet...we surely don't need TB discs!!!
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Old 08-29-2007, 04:51 PM   #8
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Except HVD can't be replicated. And until the media is $2 or pop or less, it won't be duplicated either.

It's valid to talk about HVD v. Blu-ray for storage. HD DVD isn't even in the burner game, so it's not a factor.

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Old 08-29-2007, 04:56 PM   #9
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lol, pwned
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Old 08-29-2007, 05:00 PM   #10
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talk about LAME lol its like someone who buys madden 08 on the release date then 2 days later says hmm I want madden 09 ....
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Old 08-29-2007, 05:04 PM   #11
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It's cool that technology like that is being worked on, but to say something like how it makes bd-50 look puny... that's just dumb. BD-50 is available now, TB disc??? I don't think so.
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Now the OP has been banned...

hmm...
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Old 08-29-2007, 05:10 PM   #13
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could see hes trying to show the love for HDUD like everything he posted HDUD this hdud that cant people get lives lol
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Old 08-29-2007, 05:26 PM   #14
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Letīs talk about this chapter in 10 years
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See ya next decade!
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Old 08-29-2007, 05:35 PM   #16
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See ya next decade!
Iīll keep that in mind (^_^)
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Old 08-29-2007, 05:35 PM   #17
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The guy posts something about a higher capacity disk, and he must be an HD DVD fanboy?

Maybe you guys have no interest in this stuff, but I do.

I'd love to have 1T writeable optical media in my PC. No, it makes no difference to the HD war, but it is still interesting technology. I don't know how it compares to HVD in terms of potential of feasibility, but it is still interesting.

And in case anyone is wondering, neither Teradisk or HVD should have any impact on this or future home media format sales, since both look to be record formats, not ROM formats.
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Old 08-29-2007, 05:44 PM   #18
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i read about all this stuff on wikipedia, but it also said its marketed for buisnesses for data storage and stuff, so nothing really applies here, and that would be a really long movie to sit through! now with over three days of deleted scenes! ha
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I looked at his posts.. he didn't seem to be HD-DVD sided to me. So why was he banned?
Sometimes I wonder if the mods here like to ban ppl too often? BUT I don't know the details and will leave it up to the wisdom of the mods to decide these things.

(please don't ban me )
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Old 08-29-2007, 06:11 PM   #20
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this sounds like dukemnukem which has been slated to come out the last 7 years
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