upgrading firmware, the future of entertainment - Blu-ray Forum

PlisskenReplicant · 01-08-2011, 06:52 PM

i am 27. i was born with vhs, then i have upgraded to dvds, and today like many of this beautifull community of bluray.com, im enjoying bluray A LOT.

most beautifull format ever.

but there is something that came with, i was okay with it, but it make me ask some serious questions.

i dont upgrade the firmware of my bdp1600 (samsung) often. as i heard lots of horror stories about it (being bricked, being slowed down and worst ) i was kinda afraid to use it. but i have to say in return, all the time i`ve done it, it worked and i never had a problem.

but, why do we have to use it in first place????

on 200 dvds, maybe i had one bad print that skipped a couples of frames on a scene.bad prints happens, and its rare enough.but normaly, you buy a dvd, i`ll even say a vhs, you put it in the machine and it work.
Now with blus, often it works, often you need to upgrade and then it works. we didnt needed that before.

i bought the grimm brothers. it took 10 times to my player to load the audio. i have upgraded it. works fine, its a charm. yesterday i was watching van helsing (the fantasy one with hugh jackman) and it skipped a part.just a couples of frame but enough to piss me off.my bluray was immaculate, no signs of nothing on it, it was a mirror (im obsessed with that) . i took it to the ps3 wich had no problem with the said scene. i have upgraded the samsung to 2.13 (wich was last month`s upgrade i believe) and it works like james cameron on sc-fi movies.it was beautifull.

and it has happened before with other movies.some people have movies that dont even plays.they need to fix it, and some people arent lucky enough to have internet or are just isnt interrested to having one.

is there some money making tricks under this???

i know technology is growing fast and theres is always new encoding and stuffs, but ,isnt it supposed to work as good as a old dusty vhs and a dvd player instead of waiting for the latest upgrade?are they releasing things too fast nowaday and not taking the time to test the compability?

do we want to live in a future that our microwaves needs a new upgrade or we`ll drink our coffee cold?

tank you for reading me.i would like to know all you feel about the subject

neos_peace · 01-11-2011, 03:26 AM

I know where your comming from on this. I understand, Do I have a rebutel for it..? No. But It can get annoing sometimes for those exact reasons. I myself have a PS3 slim. And I just upgraded my kids rooms with sony players. Now granted they probably don't have the latest firmware in them becasue I dont have them hooked up to the internet just yet. But I my self have never had an issue. But I can see how its a GREAT technology but having to upgrade firmware ot see a movie can get on people nerves sometime.s

ZoetMB · 01-11-2011, 03:38 AM

I think you should look at upgrading as a positive, not a negative. First of all, most manufacturers don't update that often, especially after the player has been out a while. BD players incorporate complex technology and most of the newer ones are not just Blu-ray players, but CD players, SACD players (in some cases), WiFi network devices and network-based entertainment centers. Most components today are essentially computers and therefore, have software that can be upgraded to either fix bugs or enhance features. Also, even though BD has actually been around since 2006, some of its more advanced features have only recently been implemented by some studios.

If your player works with all your discs and you're happy, then don't upgrade.

richieb1971 · 01-11-2011, 04:54 AM

stops landfills filling up. If everytime a new feature came out you needed to update your player by throwing the old one away and buying a new one, well that would be ridiculous.

Remember the first DVD players? They were single layer. Then Hollywood and DVD forum members decided to make them double layer. Then Best buy had a gazillion single layer DVD players they couldn't sell. Granted firmware would never have fixed that since its a hardware issue, but you get the point that its better to update software on something rather than have to replace the whole lot.

The only feature that bothers skipping is branching. If you have scratch on the disc no amount of updating is going to fix it.

Almost all updates are relative to BDlive and therefore have zero impact on just watching the movie.

01-08-2011, 06:52 PM	#1
PlisskenReplicant Member Member since:Jan 2011 Blu-ray collection:137 DVD collection:92 Blu-ray reviews:4	upgrading firmware, the future of entertainment i am 27. i was born with vhs, then i have upgraded to dvds, and today like many of this beautifull community of bluray.com, im enjoying bluray A LOT. most beautifull format ever. but there is something that came with, i was okay with it, but it make me ask some serious questions. i dont upgrade the firmware of my bdp1600 (samsung) often. as i heard lots of horror stories about it (being bricked, being slowed down and worst ) i was kinda afraid to use it. but i have to say in return, all the time i`ve done it, it worked and i never had a problem. but, why do we have to use it in first place???? on 200 dvds, maybe i had one bad print that skipped a couples of frames on a scene.bad prints happens, and its rare enough.but normaly, you buy a dvd, i`ll even say a vhs, you put it in the machine and it work. Now with blus, often it works, often you need to upgrade and then it works. we didnt needed that before. i bought the grimm brothers. it took 10 times to my player to load the audio. i have upgraded it. works fine, its a charm. yesterday i was watching van helsing (the fantasy one with hugh jackman) and it skipped a part.just a couples of frame but enough to piss me off.my bluray was immaculate, no signs of nothing on it, it was a mirror (im obsessed with that) . i took it to the ps3 wich had no problem with the said scene. i have upgraded the samsung to 2.13 (wich was last month`s upgrade i believe) and it works like james cameron on sc-fi movies.it was beautifull. and it has happened before with other movies.some people have movies that dont even plays.they need to fix it, and some people arent lucky enough to have internet or are just isnt interrested to having one. is there some money making tricks under this??? i know technology is growing fast and theres is always new encoding and stuffs, but ,isnt it supposed to work as good as a old dusty vhs and a dvd player instead of waiting for the latest upgrade?are they releasing things too fast nowaday and not taking the time to test the compability? do we want to live in a future that our microwaves needs a new upgrade or we`ll drink our coffee cold? tank you for reading me.i would like to know all you feel about the subject

01-11-2011, 03:26 AM	#2
neos_peace Special Member Member since:Jul 2008 Location:Shamokin Dam, Pa Home Theater Gallery:14 Blu-ray collection:279 Trading Score:1	I know where your comming from on this. I understand, Do I have a rebutel for it..? No. But It can get annoing sometimes for those exact reasons. I myself have a PS3 slim. And I just upgraded my kids rooms with sony players. Now granted they probably don't have the latest firmware in them becasue I dont have them hooked up to the internet just yet. But I my self have never had an issue. But I can see how its a GREAT technology but having to upgrade firmware ot see a movie can get on people nerves sometime.s

01-11-2011, 03:38 AM	#3
ZoetMB Blu-ray Ninja Member since:May 2009 Location:New York Blu-ray collection:172 DVD collection:27 Blu-ray reviews: 3	I think you should look at upgrading as a positive, not a negative. First of all, most manufacturers don't update that often, especially after the player has been out a while. BD players incorporate complex technology and most of the newer ones are not just Blu-ray players, but CD players, SACD players (in some cases), WiFi network devices and network-based entertainment centers. Most components today are essentially computers and therefore, have software that can be upgraded to either fix bugs or enhance features. Also, even though BD has actually been around since 2006, some of its more advanced features have only recently been implemented by some studios. If your player works with all your discs and you're happy, then don't upgrade.

01-11-2011, 04:54 AM	#4
richieb1971 Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Aug 2007 4K collection:89 Blu-ray collection:706 Trading Score:16	stops landfills filling up. If everytime a new feature came out you needed to update your player by throwing the old one away and buying a new one, well that would be ridiculous. Remember the first DVD players? They were single layer. Then Hollywood and DVD forum members decided to make them double layer. Then Best buy had a gazillion single layer DVD players they couldn't sell. Granted firmware would never have fixed that since its a hardware issue, but you get the point that its better to update software on something rather than have to replace the whole lot. The only feature that bothers skipping is branching. If you have scratch on the disc no amount of updating is going to fix it. Almost all updates are relative to BDlive and therefore have zero impact on just watching the movie.

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