Why is the extended cut of the Thomas Jane "Punisher" only avaliable in australia? - Blu-ray Forum

BluChron · 07-14-2011, 10:55 AM

but not U.S/Canada? doesnt make any sense.

toddly6666 · 07-14-2011, 01:13 PM

Germany....David Hasselhoff
Australia....Thomas Jane

HD Goofnut · 07-14-2011, 01:45 PM

It probably has something to do with money. It usually does.

tylerdurden10 · 07-14-2011, 01:46 PM

Sweet! I had no idea that any country had the extended cut! Ebay.au here I come!

Cevolution · 07-14-2011, 02:07 PM

What's different about it? Because my Australian release copy has the same running time listed on the back cover as the U.S version.

b1lly · 07-14-2011, 03:00 PM

That's because the Australian disc is the same as the US theatrical cut. I know, because I bought it and was pi**ed. The cover art is the same as the US extended cut, but the the film inside is indeed the US theatrical. Dont waste your time/money.

The_Donster · 07-14-2011, 04:12 PM

Like this movie, but not enough to buy it on BD. I'd buy the 2nd one though. I thought that one looked great on BD. Although I did like Jane as The Punisher. Anyone know why he didn't come back and dropped out?

tylerdurden10 · 07-14-2011, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by b1lly

That's because the Australian disc is the same as the US theatrical cut. I know, because I bought it and was pi**ed. The cover art is the same as the US extended cut, but the the film inside is indeed the US theatrical. Dont waste your time/money.

Are you sure? Every website I find that shows it says that includes 15 minutes of footage added in.

Even when I check on ebay.au every listing says "extended cut"

I know that there was an early Australian release that was the same as the US version, however the re-release claims to have the extended version. How could every website that is selling it be wrong!

motorheadache95 · 07-14-2011, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by The_Donster

Like this movie, but not enough to buy it on BD. I'd buy the 2nd one though. I thought that one looked great on BD. Although I did like Jane as The Punisher. Anyone know why he didn't come back and dropped out?

He didn't like the script or the direction they were taking it in. Personally, I thought Tom Jane's Punisher movie was okay, but I hated Punisher: War Zone. War Zone to me was a goofy, violent cartoon, which might have been alright, but it was clashing with the "accidentally killed an undercover guy" storyline which felt out of place. The tone was all over the place in that movie, switching from ridiculous camp to suddenly serious introspective moments at the drop of a hat and IMO doesn't work at all.

I definitely would have preferred giving Jon Hensleigh another chance and working with Tom Jane on a sequel instead. If you watch the commentary for Punisher (theatrical version DVD only), he talks very honestly about where he made mistakes, and how his sequel would be set in New York and be much more like the comic book, now that they had gotten his origin out of the way.

Clark Kent · 07-14-2011, 05:17 PM

War Zone was probably closer in spirit to what a good Punisher film should follow, but the studio let some foreign director go crazy and over-stylize the film.

The problem with Punisher is that Hollywood sees all the violence of the character and decides to put him into B-level action scripts, trying to wedge him into the standard violent action hero mold seen in movies. That is almost always going to produce mediocre results.

Scottsdale Saint · 07-14-2011, 05:20 PM

If you want to watch a good Punisher movie, just watch Denzel in Man on Fire.

HD Goofnut · 07-14-2011, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Scottsdale Saint

If you want to watch a good Punisher movie, just watch Denzel in Man on Fire.

Or Taken.

chip75 · 07-14-2011, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

Or Taken.

No love for Dolph Lungren's '89 effort?

HD Goofnut · 07-14-2011, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by chip75

No love for Dolph Lungren's '89 effort?

It was better than the remake. I'll give it that.

Mr. Movie Fan · 07-14-2011, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Scottsdale Saint

If you want to watch a good Punisher movie, just watch Denzel in Man on Fire.

I always felt that way.

vegeta88 · 07-14-2011, 06:38 PM

I'm not buying the Blu-ray until the extended cut is available. I really like The Punisher film with Thomas Jame. It could be better, but there is a lot of good stuff in it and I think it is the best of the three.

More on what motorheadache95 was saying, Thomas Jane wanted the sequel to be darker and much closer in tone with the comics. For some reason it wasn't going there so it didn't work out. Really too bad because I think a sequel would have been awesome.

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Originally Posted by toddly6666

Germany....David Hasselhoff
Australia....Thomas Jane

Wow. Really? Did not know that.

owenstar · 07-14-2011, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Clark Kent

War Zone was probably closer in spirit to what a good Punisher film should follow, but the studio let some foreign director go crazy and over-stylize the film.

A foreign director with an oscar nod and martial arts backround...

Thomas Jane wanted the next movie to be taxi driver (which isnt a good representation of the character in my opinion)...TJ sorta lost his mind after the making of the first movie...try and find an interview with him where is isnt drunk or stoned....While I commend his effort for his film, I dont think his vision for the next film was where I wanted to see it..

WarZone isnt perfect...but it follows the look and story of Ennis' MAX run..(I also wasnt a fan of the death of the FBI agent)

retablo · 07-14-2011, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by motorheadache95

I definitely would have preferred giving Jon Hensleigh another chance and working with Tom Jane on a sequel instead. If you watch the commentary for Punisher (theatrical version DVD only), he talks very honestly about where he made mistakes, and how his sequel would be set in New York and be much more like the comic book, now that they had gotten his origin out of the way.

If Hensleigh had respected the source material in the FIRST PLACE, he might have had a chance to make the sequel, and wouldn't have to atone for all his ridiculous mistakes.

BluChron · 07-14-2011, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by b1lly

That's because the Australian disc is the same as the US theatrical cut. I know, because I bought it and was pi**ed. The cover art is the same as the US extended cut, but the the film inside is indeed the US theatrical. Dont waste your time/money.

if that were the case. if anybody was smart and had a good lawyer. u can sue them for false advertising.

Loafy · 07-14-2011, 08:57 PM

I'm pretty sure it came out in Canada. This 2 disk set seems to have it included according to the cover. I think I bought it separately but I'd have to double check my collection at home.
http://www.amazon.ca/Law-Abiding-Cit...0676853&sr=8-3

07-14-2011, 10:55 AM	#1
BluChron Banned Member since:Jan 2010	Why is the extended cut of the Thomas Jane "Punisher" only avaliable in australia? but not U.S/Canada? doesnt make any sense. Last edited by BluChron; 07-14-2011 at 11:28 AM.

07-14-2011, 01:13 PM	#2
toddly6666 Blu-ray Baron Top contributor Member since:Nov 2009 Location:Hong Kong Home Theater Gallery:20 4K collection:1 Blu-ray collection:1441 DVD collection:31 Blu-ray reviews: 290 Trading Score:61	Germany....David Hasselhoff Australia....Thomas Jane

07-14-2011, 01:45 PM	#3
HD Goofnut Blu-ray King Top contributor Member since:May 2010 Location:Far, Far Away Home Theater Gallery:114 4K collection:743 Blu-ray collection:2372 DVD collection:128 MA collection:751 Digital collection:1093 Prime collection:598 Blu-ray reviews:133 Trading Score:39	It probably has something to do with money. It usually does.

07-14-2011, 01:46 PM	#4
tylerdurden10 Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Dec 2009 Location:MA 4K collection:288 Blu-ray collection:2143 Trading Score:258	Sweet! I had no idea that any country had the extended cut! Ebay.au here I come!

07-14-2011, 02:07 PM	#5
Cevolution Banned Top ranked HT gallery Top contributor Member since:Nov 2010 Location:Sydney, Australia Home Theater Gallery:23 4K collection:668 Blu-ray collection:3104 Trading Score:8	What's different about it? Because my Australian release copy has the same running time listed on the back cover as the U.S version.

07-14-2011, 03:00 PM	#6
b1lly Junior Member Member since:Jan 2010	That's because the Australian disc is the same as the US theatrical cut. I know, because I bought it and was pi**ed. The cover art is the same as the US extended cut, but the the film inside is indeed the US theatrical. Dont waste your time/money.

07-14-2011, 04:12 PM	#7
The_Donster Blu-ray Knight Top contributor Member since:Dec 2010 Location:Deep in the heart of NE Texas 4K collection:1 Blu-ray collection:216 DVD collection:231 Trading Score:14	Like this movie, but not enough to buy it on BD. I'd buy the 2nd one though. I thought that one looked great on BD. Although I did like Jane as The Punisher. Anyone know why he didn't come back and dropped out?

07-14-2011, 05:17 PM	#10
Clark Kent Blu-ray Prince Top contributor Member since:Oct 2007 Location:Metropolis Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:184	War Zone was probably closer in spirit to what a good Punisher film should follow, but the studio let some foreign director go crazy and over-stylize the film. The problem with Punisher is that Hollywood sees all the violence of the character and decides to put him into B-level action scripts, trying to wedge him into the standard violent action hero mold seen in movies. That is almost always going to produce mediocre results.

07-14-2011, 05:20 PM	#11
Scottsdale Saint Member Member since:Apr 2011 Blu-ray collection:136 Trading Score:2	If you want to watch a good Punisher movie, just watch Denzel in Man on Fire.

07-14-2011, 08:57 PM	#20
Loafy Active Member Member since:Jan 2009 Location:Canada	I'm pretty sure it came out in Canada. This 2 disk set seems to have it included according to the cover. I think I bought it separately but I'd have to double check my collection at home. http://www.amazon.ca/Law-Abiding-Cit...0676853&sr=8-3

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