71: Into the Fire Blu-ray

[ChrisR]

Has anyone seen this?......looks EPIC!!

PRE-ORDER/Review:

[alibaba-uk]

Review just posted here: https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/71-In.../17568/#Review

Personally I loved this film - probably the strongest war film of 2011 so far. Yes, I am biased but that's my genuine thoughts on it!

[ChrisR]

Originally Posted by alibaba-uk

Review just posted here: https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/71-In.../17568/#Review

Personally I loved this film - probably the strongest war film of 2011 so far. Yes, I am biased but that's my genuine thoughts on it!

Yeah saw the review and wanted to see what people thought of it. This is one I think I will have to invest in, looks like my sort of thing

[FrenchImmersion]

I rented it from Lovefilm.

The Blu Ray picture quality was about average, not poor, but by no means Demo quality. The actual film was pretty much what I expected it to be. I'd give it a 6 out of 10 overall.

In terms of other Korean War films, I'd rate Brotherhood 9/10, for the purpose of comparison.

[KrugerIndustrial]

Originally Posted by FrenchImmersion

Blaa BLaa...AVERAGE.

Seriously? I have not yet seen this but based on blu-ray.com review I find it hard to believe the picture quality would be as bad as average.

[FrenchImmersion]

Average for a blu ray. Or rather, in line with what we would expect, but not as good as some of the films known for their fantastic picture.

[Jarrod]

So is this movie actually region free?

[Sky_Captain]

Originally Posted by FrenchImmersion

Average for a blu ray. Or rather, in line with what we would expect, but not as good as some of the films known for their fantastic picture.

http://www.specsavers.co.uk/

[pro-bassoonist]

Originally Posted by FrenchImmersion

Average for a blu ray. Or rather, in line with what we would expect, but not as good as some of the films known for their fantastic picture.

You are certainly entitled to have your opinion on the technical presentation, but this is a wildly inaccurate observation. The release does not even come close to being average, and it is very much in line with what we would expect a modern film to look like on Blu-ray.

Detail, clarity, and especially color reproduction - take a look at the lush yellows and blues - are fantastic.

I really do not know how you can describe this release as being average!

Originally Posted by Jarrod

So is this movie actually region free?

Yes, the disc is indeed REGION-FREE.

Pro-B

[FrenchImmersion]

Originally Posted by FrenchImmersion

Average for a blu ray. Or rather, in line with what we would expect.

Originally Posted by pro-bassoonist

it is very much in line with what we would expect a modern film to look like on Blu-ray.

So how are these two sentances different?

Someone asked for an opinion, and I, having seen the somewhat obscure film in question, volunteered to give my opinion, and then you decide to not only question my opinion (which admittedly you have every right to do) by telling me I am wrong, but then re-phrasing what I said in my re-iteration, in your own words and end up in fact saying exactly what I said previously.

We clearly have two very different definitions of what "average" means. To me it means it is on par with other blu-rays, but nothing special. For you it would appear to mean "bad".

Whatever.

[KrugerIndustrial]

What films would you list as 'above average' picture quality wise?

[pro-bassoonist]

Originally Posted by FrenchImmersion

So how are these two sentances different?

You implied that the release is average. I disagree. It is one of the very best looking UK Blu-ray releases that I have seen lately. I've projected the film on a 100' screen - it looks spectacular. Furthermore, brand new films (less than a year old) that appear on Blu-ray typically look excellent, not average. There are only a couple of releases that I could think of that are not excellent, and they are still very, very good. In other words, I disagree with your average for Blu-ray comment

Originally Posted by FrenchImmersion

Someone asked for an opinion, and I, having seen the somewhat obscure film in question, volunteered to give my opinion, and then you decide to not only question my opinion (which admittedly you have every right to do) by telling me I am wrong, but then re-phrasing what I said in my re-iteration, in your own words and end up in fact saying exactly what I said previously.

As I said, you are entitled to have an opinion, and I respect it. But I also disagree with it. This release is nowhere near close to being about average. It is excellent.

Lastly, about average is not in line with what I expect from new/modern films that appear on Blu-ray. I am sorry. I expect excellence, or close to it. And 71 - Into the Fire certainly is an excellent release.

Pro-B

[Tech-UK]

I have to agree with Pro. The PQ is excellent. The first battle scene, blew me away. It has been awhile since I was last blown away by a films PQ. And to add to that, the AQ is just as good .

[Mike dk]

I have this new Cine Asia BD release and saw it a few days ago with my girlfriend. I very much agree with the review posted on this site. The film is excellent, great story, great cast and great war scenes. Both sound and picture is excellent!
I highly recommend this release

[FrenchImmersion]

Originally Posted by pro-bassoonist

I expect excellence, or close to it. And 71 - Into the Fire certainly is an excellent release.

Pro-B

If you expect every release to be "excellent", then that merely becomes the standard, and therefore the average (which was the point I was making). You have completely misunderstood what I said and seem to have taken some sort of mild offence to it because I didn't immediately start gushing with excitement over this particular release.

Although I will provide you will a sensationalist review if it pleases you.

"71 Into the Fire" is probably the best film I have ever, seen and the image quality is just like having everything played out in front of you. Immediately rush down to your local electronics store with a copy of the film and demand that they play it on every screen. The picture quality will amaze all passers by and they will enter the store by the thousands, all with moist crotches having wet themselves over the picture. The store will then obviously make you their top salesman, and you will become an electronics millionaire over night. Your new found riches will have you nobbing dozens of hot hi-definition babes every night. In short, 71 Into the Fire will change your life.

Better?


KrugerIndustrial: Apocolypto has a stronger picture, just for one off the top of my head.

[pro-bassoonist]

Originally Posted by FrenchImmersion

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Better?

Originally Posted by FrenchImmersion

Apocolypto has a stronger picture, just for one off the top of my head.

I believe that at this point discussing what you said or what you meant is rather pointless. In any event, thank you for your opinion.

Pro-B

[Cine Asia]

Originally Posted by FrenchImmersion

If you expect every release to be "excellent", then that merely becomes the standard, and therefore the average (which was the point I was making). You have completely misunderstood what I said and seem to have taken some sort of mild offence to it because I didn't immediately start gushing with excitement over this particular release.

I completely respect your opinion and I at least hope you enjoyed the film, I certainly wouldn't want you to gush over something you didn't fully enjoy However...

This is boiling down to a matter of semantics, but I have to agree with Pro. Average when applied to movies, work colleagues, music, etc is conventionally applied in a derogatory sense, it's not reaching anything good or decent, it's keeping the intermediary when it should be better. So common, ordinary, nothing special. HD in itself is something very special considering the scope for quality over DVD - it's monumental if you go back to the days of VHS and Betamax. HD is not keeping an average standard, it's keeping a standard of excellence over DVD quality.

I can, without a shadow of a doubt, tell you that not one person working for Cine Asia has the attitude that we want to just bash out any old thing as soon as it arrives - were that the case, we wouldn't spend a lot of time doing QC, putting together extras or even filming our own Cine Asia exclusive extras.

We strive to give people what they want and put out the best quality product we possibly can, we certainly don't have an 'average' attitude - and we think this is reflected in our releases.

That being said, thank you for your feedback.

[FrenchImmersion]

Originally Posted by Cine Asia

I completely respect your opinion and I at least hope you enjoyed the film, I certainly wouldn't want you to gush over something you didn't fully enjoy However...

This is boiling down to a matter of semantics, but I have to agree with Pro. Average when applied to movies, work colleagues, music, etc is conventionally applied in a derogatory sense, it's not reaching anything good or decent, it's keeping the intermediary when it should be better. So common, ordinary, nothing special. HD in itself is something very special considering the scope for quality over DVD - it's monumental if you go back to the days of VHS and Betamax. HD is not keeping an average standard, it's keeping a standard of excellence over DVD quality.

I can, without a shadow of a doubt, tell you that not one person working for Cine Asia has the attitude that we want to just bash out any old thing as soon as it arrives - were that the case, we wouldn't spend a lot of time doing QC, putting together extras or even filming our own Cine Asia exclusive extras.

We strive to give people what they want and put out the best quality product we possibly can, we certainly don't have an 'average' attitude - and we think this is reflected in our releases.

That being said, thank you for your feedback.

I did enjoy the film, and I plan to purchase a copy of my own in the near future when the film is less fresh in my mind and I'd be more likely to have cause to view it again.

I think this disagreement has all boiled down to differing interpretations of the word "Average". To me, in this context, it means I got what I was expecting from something that has High Definition as standard. It isn't as if I was comparing the image quality to that of a DVD. The reason I switched to Blu Ray in the first place was because of the better picture quality. I am just not the type of person to hype up something that was basically what I had come to expect from the format.

It just seems to me that some people are still seeing a good picture as something of an exception, when in my experience it is the standard now for this format...and therefore average (in a mathematical sense). I've never considered average to be a derogatory term. If I didn't value my work colleagues (as you cited in your post), average isn't a term I would think to honour them with.

[Cine Asia]

Perfectly understandable, often movies give you a different feeling on the second time around, especially if you wait a little before watching again. Let us know what you think again afterwards.

I think really, it's down to people's perceptions in how they want to see certain terms - exactly as you said.

Anyway, have a good day!

[manicsounds]

Got this disc today, and Cineasia did an excellent job with its selection of extras. But has this movie been released on DVD/BD in Korea? Can't find any info on that for some reason.