Disney Blu-ray Picture Quality Thread - Blu-ray Forum

Mr Kite · 08-25-2013, 01:13 PM

I am setting up this thread for discussion on the PQ of Disney and other Blu Ray Releases in the UK, this is not for those who want to discus DMR codes or numbered spines etc, this is just to talk about the actual films on Blu Ray.

Sword In The Stone is heading this way soon and from looking at the screen grabs is amongst the very worst Blu Ray transfers out there and an insult to the animators art, how do you lads feel about this?

PS
Just been looking there is at last what looks to be a proper Blu Ray transfer of Gulliver's Travels (1939) being released soon.

http://cartoonresearch.com/index.php...d/#prettyphoto

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KingSimba · 08-25-2013, 01:51 PM

Without trying to 'offend', isn't this thread a bit pointless?

The Disney thread is intended to discuss the quality of all Disney Blu-ray releases aswell as all the other things you mention like DMR, etc.

And as for other releases, I always thought that's what each dedicated thread which does exist for the majority of Blu-ray's was for (to discuss the release quality etc).

Phil92 · 08-25-2013, 02:08 PM

He basically just wants to whine about SitS, which is fine, just as long as he realises that most others here don't particularly care nor can do much to change the situation.

Bobadila · 08-25-2013, 04:16 PM

Fed up of not being heard in the megathread? Atleast you can have a good moan here, like Phil92 said, theres nothing many of us can do, and when its released in the UK im sure more people in the UK MIGHT have something to say, but as it is, I wouldnt worry.

Mr Kite · 08-25-2013, 04:48 PM

Just seen these great screen grabs which I think sums up the SITS transfer:

It almost seems like the DNR button has been set to full.

This release along with The Aristocats and the Rescuers etc shows something is very wrong that really needs putting right. I hope it is before the UK release of SITS.

TehJofus · 08-25-2013, 04:52 PM

Screen grabs are all well and good, but I generally don't sit there watching my blu-rays by moving from one frame to the next.

I'll reserve my judgement until I see the film in motion. But even still, the blu-ray image you just posted doesn't bother me at all. It looks fine.

Mr Kite · 08-25-2013, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by KingSimba

Without trying to 'offend', isn't this thread a bit pointless?

The Disney thread is intended to discuss the quality of all Disney Blu-ray releases aswell as all the other things you mention like DMR, etc.

And as for other releases, I always thought that's what each dedicated thread which does exist for the majority of Blu-ray's was for (to discuss the release quality etc).

No offence taken, but you can see why I have set up a dedicated thread.

AJD1984 · 08-25-2013, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by tele1962

Just seen these great screen grabs which I think sums up the SITS transfer:

It almost seems like the DNR button has been set to full.

This release along with The Aristocats and the Rescuers etc shows something is very wrong that really needs putting right. I hope it is before the UK release of SITS.

How about viewing those two images at the same size. The blu-ray has been enlarged to show the defect. What does it look like at the same size as the iTunes pic? Im not saying I warrant it but I do prefer the bluray pic because of the colours. They are stronger and more vibrant and in terms of picture quality IMO thats what is important...to me. Obviously different to you. Your entitled to your opinion.

Andrew

Mr Kite · 08-25-2013, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by TehJofus

Screen grabs are all well and good, but I generally don't sit there watching my blu-rays by moving from one frame to the next.

I'll reserve my judgement until I see the film in motion. But even still, the blu-ray image you just posted doesn't bother me at all. It looks fine.

Look at the image on the right, detail is lost and it looks out of focus.

TehJofus · 08-25-2013, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by tele1962

Look at the image on the right, detail is lost and it looks out of focus.

So? That frame will be there and gone in a millisecond. For all we know, it could look absolutely amazing in the film.

Screen grabs are not an accurate way of discerning the quality of something in motion.

Mr Kite · 08-25-2013, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by TehJofus

So? That frame will be there and gone in a millisecond. For all we know, it could look absolutely amazing in the film.

Screen grabs are not an accurate way of discerning the quality of something in motion.

I am afraid they are, you are seeing a series of still frames with the same image only at 24fps (or maybe 18 fps) so there will be no difference as has been shown by the viewings it has had from our US cousins and the Professional reviews.

TehJofus · 08-25-2013, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by tele1962

I am afraid they are, you are seeing a series of still frames with the same image only at 24fps (or maybe 18 fps) so there will be no difference as has been shown by the viewings it has had from our US cousins and the Professional reviews.

They're really not. They're accurate to show what it will look like if you pause it at that exact moment. But they don't show what it will look like when it flows into the next 24 or 18 frames. That's my point. Film is a medium that is reliant on movement, not being static.

Also, my advice to you would be to actually wait for the UK release. It's unwise to complain about a product that hasn't even been released yet. There's no way you can know that Disney HAVEN'T already considered this and made a change for the UK release.

In short, you don't know yet. Make your grievances heard when you do.

AJD1984 · 08-25-2013, 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TehJofus

So? That frame will be there and gone in a millisecond. For all we know, it could look absolutely amazing in the film.

Screen grabs are not an accurate way of discerning the quality of something in motion.

Your wasting your breath mate. Think he/she has me on ignore but I raise a valid point. We are entitled to our own opinion as are they. discussing it amicably is not an option for them Im afraid.

I agree with you though.

Andrew

Mr Kite · 08-25-2013, 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TehJofus

They're really not. They're accurate to show what it will look like if you pause it at that exact moment. But they don't show what it will look like when it flows into the next 24 or 18 frames. That's my point. Film is a medium that is reliant on movement, not being static.

Also, my advice to you would be to actually wait for the UK release. It's unwise to complain about a product that hasn't even been released yet. There's no way you can know that Disney HAVEN'T already considered this and made a change for the UK release.

In short, you don't know yet. Make your grievances heard when you do.

I can assure you they do and I should know, but never mind that is your opinion. Now as for the UK release we will get the same print as the US I can promise that so better we can at lease get our feelings vent now as this is not the only Disney title with huge problems.

TehJofus · 08-25-2013, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by tele1962

and I should know

Just out of interest, could you clarify this part? I've seen you mention or refer to some knowledge you hold a few times, but you've never quite expanded on it.

Mr Kite · 08-25-2013, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by TehJofus

Just out of interest, could you clarify this part? I've seen you mention or refer to some knowledge you hold a few times, but you've never quite expanded on it.

I would prefer not to.

TehJofus · 08-25-2013, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by tele1962

I would prefer not to.

Then why mention it? The more you mention it without expanding, the more credibility you lose. Your opinion and argument suffers because of it.

Mr Kite · 08-25-2013, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by TehJofus

Then why mention it? The more you mention it without expanding, the more credibility you lose. Your opinion and argument suffers because of it.

Because it would mean naming names and linking etc and I really do not want to do that.

Anyway we are here to talk about Disney and others Blu Ray PQ issues.

TehJofus · 08-25-2013, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by tele1962

Because it would mean naming names and linking etc and I really do not want to do that.

Anyway we are here to talk about Disney and others Blu Ray PQ issues.

Okay, fair enough. Then I'm going to bring this back into it, since it went un-addressed:

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Originally Posted by AJD1984

How about viewing those two images at the same size. The blu-ray has been enlarged to show the defect. What does it look like at the same size as the iTunes pic?

Seems like a good point to me.

Mr Kite · 08-25-2013, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by TehJofus

Okay, fair enough. Then I'm going to bring this back into it, since it went un-addressed:

Seems like a good point to me.

It really doesn't matter as that grab shows the problem superbly, there are many more showing the same problem of detail being scrubbed away along with the grain structure of the film.

08-25-2013, 01:13 PM	#1
Mr Kite Banned Member since:Jun 2012 Location:UK Blu-ray collection:367 Trading Score:5	Disney Blu-ray Picture Quality Thread I am setting up this thread for discussion on the PQ of Disney and other Blu Ray Releases in the UK, this is not for those who want to discus DMR codes or numbered spines etc, this is just to talk about the actual films on Blu Ray. Sword In The Stone is heading this way soon and from looking at the screen grabs is amongst the very worst Blu Ray transfers out there and an insult to the animators art, how do you lads feel about this? PS Just been looking there is at last what looks to be a proper Blu Ray transfer of Gulliver's Travels (1939) being released soon. http://cartoonresearch.com/index.php...d/#prettyphoto . Last edited by Mr Kite; 08-25-2013 at 01:21 PM.

08-25-2013, 01:51 PM	#2
KingSimba Contributor Top contributor Member since:Aug 2009 Location:United Kingdom 4K collection:29 Blu-ray collection:479 iTunes collection:1	Without trying to 'offend', isn't this thread a bit pointless? The Disney thread is intended to discuss the quality of all Disney Blu-ray releases aswell as all the other things you mention like DMR, etc. And as for other releases, I always thought that's what each dedicated thread which does exist for the majority of Blu-ray's was for (to discuss the release quality etc).

08-25-2013, 02:08 PM	#3
Phil92 Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Aug 2009 Location:United Kingdom 4K collection:339 Blu-ray collection:1489 DVD collection:138 Trading Score:29	He basically just wants to whine about SitS, which is fine, just as long as he realises that most others here don't particularly care nor can do much to change the situation.

08-25-2013, 04:16 PM	#4
Bobadila Active Member Member since:Mar 2013 Location:Wiltshire, UK	Fed up of not being heard in the megathread? Atleast you can have a good moan here, like Phil92 said, theres nothing many of us can do, and when its released in the UK im sure more people in the UK MIGHT have something to say, but as it is, I wouldnt worry.

08-25-2013, 04:48 PM	#5
Mr Kite Banned Member since:Jun 2012 Location:UK Blu-ray collection:367 Trading Score:5	Just seen these great screen grabs which I think sums up the SITS transfer: It almost seems like the DNR button has been set to full. This release along with The Aristocats and the Rescuers etc shows something is very wrong that really needs putting right. I hope it is before the UK release of SITS.

08-25-2013, 04:52 PM	#6
TehJofus Active Member Member since:Mar 2013 Location:Liverpool 4K collection:1 Blu-ray collection:78	Screen grabs are all well and good, but I generally don't sit there watching my blu-rays by moving from one frame to the next. I'll reserve my judgement until I see the film in motion. But even still, the blu-ray image you just posted doesn't bother me at all. It looks fine.

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