Disney's 'Beauty and the Beast' and 'Bambi' back in vault soon

[insomniac]

Just received an email from Disney AU saying that the Diamond editions of 'Beauty and the Beast' and 'Bambi' are going back into the vault soon in July.

So anyone thinking of picking up these titles yet but haven't might want to do so soon.

[LordCrumb]

Why does Disney do this? It's so annoying as it makes finding their titles harder and harder. Just keep them out of the 'vault' all the time for crying out loud.

[Rusty1989]

I kinda like the idea. It adds value to quality movies. Besides, it's not like they're only on sale for a couple weeks. There's more than enough time to pick them up before they're put back in.

[Supernaut]

I'm not entirely sure 'The Vault' is all it's made out to be. Look what happened with Pinnochio. Who's to say it wont now happen with other titles.

[insomniac]

^ I'm hoping the same would happen to 'Sleeping Beauty'. (What's not awesome about turning into a dragon?) It was put back into the vault just weeks after I got my first BD Player. And the more affordable US version is region locked.

Wonder if this vault business with 'Beauty and the Beast' includes the more recently released "3D Version" though?

[LordCrumb]

Originally Posted by Rusty1989

I kinda like the idea. It adds value to quality movies. Besides, it's not like they're only on sale for a couple weeks. There's more than enough time to pick them up before they're put back in.

Sometimes people buy films for the film, not to collect and hold in glass cases waiting for the value to increase.

[Rusty1989]

I agree that collectors take advantage of the system and I hate it. Speaking from experience buying Snow White for an exorbitant price but I like the idea of the vault because it can make great movies be that little extra special.

[beechy]

It annoys me but I also kinda understand why it's done kind makes everything old new again and keeps a sort of magic about the classics so I'm torn between two camps but iv learnt my lesson when in doubt I'll buy when available

[TenkoTAiLS]

I'm still curious as to why Disney keeps screwing Aussie/NZ over with its releases. They always seem to take out the DVD's or digital copies from our releases compared to the US or UK releases of the same movies. For example we only got a one disc bluray of Princess and the Frog here, Pocahontas is missing the DVD's that come with the US release. Most if not all their releases since Beauty and the Beasts short lived three disc edition have been missing the digital copies the US got.

But my pet peeve more than that is when they split up the release, you want the Fantasia double pack? Sorry you have to buy two seperate Blurays at an individual cost higher than the US pays for both together. Tron double pack? What's that? Even the poor Xmen Animated series got single disc releases instead of the season sets the US received. Perhaps it's just here in New Zealand (which is weird in itself since we are supposed to get all the Australian releases) but I've noticed even Australia misses out too on occasion.

That and New Zealand seems to either miss or get very limited releases at times. I still haven't seen the Fox & the Hound bluray here. Tho I've been told it made a brief appearance, musta sold out and not been restocked. We also didn't get the Fantasia double pack Australia got. I'd love to see them finish off their retro cartoon collections too, seems stupid they stopped Duck Takes, Rescue Rangers, Gummi Bears, Tail Spin etc one boxset before completion. I'd email Disney Australia if I thought it would do any good but I doubt it would.

/end Disney rant
Anyone have any ideas why they do this? Besides being cheap and cutting costs.

[Anamnesis]

Originally Posted by TenkoTAiLS

I'm still curious as to why Disney keeps screwing Aussie/NZ over with its releases. They always seem to take out the DVD's or digital copies from our releases compared to the US or UK releases of the same movies. For example we only got a one disc bluray of Princess and the Frog here, Pocahontas is missing the DVD's that come with the US release. Most if not all their releases since Beauty and the Beasts short lived three disc edition have been missing the digital copies the US got.

But my pet peeve more than that is when they split up the release, you want the Fantasia double pack? Sorry you have to buy two seperate Blurays at an individual cost higher than the US pays for both together. Tron double pack? What's that? Even the poor Xmen Animated series got single disc releases instead of the season sets the US received. Perhaps it's just here in New Zealand (which is weird in itself since we are supposed to get all the Australian releases) but I've noticed even Australia misses out too on occasion.

That and New Zealand seems to either miss or get very limited releases at times. I still haven't seen the Fox & the Hound bluray here. Tho I've been told it made a brief appearance, musta sold out and not been restocked. We also didn't get the Fantasia double pack Australia got. I'd love to see them finish off their retro cartoon collections too, seems stupid they stopped Duck Takes, Rescue Rangers, Gummi Bears, Tail Spin etc one boxset before completion. I'd email Disney Australia if I thought it would do any good but I doubt it would.

/end Disney rant
Anyone have any ideas why they do this? Besides being cheap and cutting costs.

It does seem even weirder when we do get those releases here in Australia - Lady & The Tramp is DVD & BD, as is Princess & The Frog, Tangled has a digital copy version, Tron and Fantasia are both available in double packs.....so for NZ to miss out seems very odd...

[TenkoTAiLS]

Originally Posted by Anamnesis

It does seem even weirder when we do get those releases here in Australia - Lady & The Tramp is DVD & BD, as is Princess & The Frog, Tangled has a digital copy version, Tron and Fantasia are both available in double packs.....so for NZ to miss out seems very odd...

Oh our Diamond Edition's came with the DVD's same as Australia. Except the 3D Beauty and the Beast. Princess and the Frog is only a Bluray tho, no DVD. I've seen the fancy black metal case version of Tron Legacy in 3D, but yea no double packs for that or Fantasia here. I was shocked when we got the Bambi double pack, tho it was JB Hifi exclusive. I see they are splitting up 101 Dalmations, but I don't think even the states is getting a double pack of that. I'll be surprised of we get that nice looking 5 disc Ultimate Edition of Finding Nemo, looks real nice.

Wouldn't hurt them to try releasing the collectors editions here and in Australia either. I've seen that Lion King, Cars and even the upcoming Cinderella have pretty neat editions with collectable stuff in the states. I'm a sucker for a nice set with collectables haha.

[insomniac]

I bought the Duck Tales 3-disc set from the UK, and I think it was cheaper than just getting just 1-disc here!

On the topic of Disney, how rubbish are their Disney Rewards items in Australia? I see the US one has some nice stuff such as theatrical posters for 'The Incredibles', 'The Lion King 3D', et cetera.

But the only only stuff we seem to get here are colouring books for kids, and a couple of Jonas Brothers/Miley Cyrus DVDs.

[LordCrumb]

Originally Posted by TenkoTAiLS

I'm still curious as to why Disney keeps screwing Aussie/NZ over with its releases. They always seem to take out the DVD's or digital copies from our releases compared to the US or UK releases of the same movies. For example we only got a one disc bluray of Princess and the Frog here, Pocahontas is missing the DVD's that come with the US release. Most if not all their releases since Beauty and the Beasts short lived three disc edition have been missing the digital copies the US got.

But my pet peeve more than that is when they split up the release, you want the Fantasia double pack? Sorry you have to buy two seperate Blurays at an individual cost higher than the US pays for both together. Tron double pack? What's that? Even the poor Xmen Animated series got single disc releases instead of the season sets the US received. Perhaps it's just here in New Zealand (which is weird in itself since we are supposed to get all the Australian releases) but I've noticed even Australia misses out too on occasion.

That and New Zealand seems to either miss or get very limited releases at times. I still haven't seen the Fox & the Hound bluray here. Tho I've been told it made a brief appearance, musta sold out and not been restocked. We also didn't get the Fantasia double pack Australia got. I'd love to see them finish off their retro cartoon collections too, seems stupid they stopped Duck Takes, Rescue Rangers, Gummi Bears, Tail Spin etc one boxset before completion. I'd email Disney Australia if I thought it would do any good but I doubt it would.

/end Disney rant
Anyone have any ideas why they do this? Besides being cheap and cutting costs.

Yeah mate, its only in New Zealand. I've noticed it a while ago with Disney titles. I think the NZ distribution side of just don't think we want the DVD copy. That's why I ended up getting 'Surrogates' from JB Aus, as it came with the DVD copy (and was cheaper than the BD Only here).

[TenkoTAiLS]

Originally Posted by LordCrumb

Yeah mate, its only in New Zealand. I've noticed it a while ago with Disney titles. I think the NZ distribution side of just don't think we want the DVD copy. That's why I ended up getting 'Surrogates' from JB Aus, as it came with the DVD copy (and was cheaper than the BD Only here).

Thought so, how mental is that tho. I mean am I right in assuming it would cost them more overall to reprint the covers, and provide New Zealand with different copies than Australia? Wouldn't it be cheaper and more economical to just send New Zealand the same copies as they print in Australia and just get it re-rated like everyone else does?

And yeah the prices always baffle me, DVD's, Blurays, video games. It's downright stupid that an invididual paying middleman retail prices and individual retail shipping costs can pick up a product from the UK or USA and pay less than from home. They mean to have us believe that they order direct from the supplier in bulk at a discounted price, pay discounted bulk shipping and then put a price tag on it that is more expensive than it is for us to order it from a retailer overseas even with all the extra costs involved of doing that ourselves?!

It's no wonder they want to do an investigation into retail practices and pricing in Australia and New Zealand. Cause there is totally fishy stuff going on somewhere behind the scenes.

[LordCrumb]

Totally agree with you.

I'm pissed we didn't get the 2-Blu-Ray disc version of War Horse either.

This isn't Disney, but when the **** are we getting the Conan films over here too? the originals with Arnie.. been out in Aus for MONTHS.

[Supernaut]

Originally Posted by LordCrumb

Totally agree with you.

I'm pissed we didn't get the 2-Blu-Ray disc version of War Horse either.

This isn't Disney, but when the **** are we getting the Conan films over here too? the originals with Arnie.. been out in Aus for MONTHS.

Yeah, not long ago we got the twin pack too. Not sure if they've fixed the audio, I guess I should dig out my discs and check.

[Saints 2010]

Originally Posted by insomniac

I bought the Duck Tales 3-disc set from the UK, and I think it was cheaper than just getting just 1-disc here!

On the topic of Disney, how rubbish are their Disney Rewards items in Australia? I see the US one has some nice stuff such as theatrical posters for 'The Incredibles', 'The Lion King 3D', et cetera.

But the only only stuff we seem to get here are colouring books for kids, and a couple of Jonas Brothers/Miley Cyrus DVDs.

I've got just over 1000 points, but there's hardly anything I want. I remember when the had Snow White/Sleeping Beauty and Pinocchio on there ages ago but I didn't have enough points at the time. However, I have managed to get a few decent things off the Rewards program.

[insomniac]

I remembered Pinocchio being on the list, but it was only the DVD version. The only BD I've ever seen on it is High School Musical 3...

[TenkoTAiLS]

Originally Posted by LordCrumb

Totally agree with you.

I'm pissed we didn't get the 2-Blu-Ray disc version of War Horse either.

This isn't Disney, but when the **** are we getting the Conan films over here too? the originals with Arnie.. been out in Aus for MONTHS.

I know people say why don't we just import but it's hardly the point, we shouldn't have to. Distributors always go on about importing and wanting companies to enforce region locking to "make sure people support local business". But when they charge triple the price and refuse to release certain things or skimp on the contents it really puts consumers in a bad place. We don't wanna support a crap release but we want the movie...

Perhaps if our local distributors put more effort into making sure we are on par with our releases with the rest of the world I wouldn't mind supporting them more...I vote with my wallet and import if the local release is poop haha :P