Leaving Neverland (2019) [Michael Jackson Documentary]

[shy86]

Release date: 22 April 2019

Link: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Leaving-Neverland-Blu-ray-Dan-Reed/dp/B07PGPZXF9/ref=sr_1_2?crid=3TZ8R0LFCVE2E&keywords=leaving+nev erland&qid=1552156853&s=dvd&sprefix=Leaving+ne%2Ca ps%2C133&sr=1-2

Price: £14.99

[Si Parallel Universe]

I shall not be buying this. I watched it on TV it was truly disturbing .. That was enough for me

[Scott in UK]

Seeing as i havnt seen the already existing thread for this documentary appear for a while il presume it was deleted, so il expect this thread to possibly end up deleted aswell.

But iv just recently now watched this documentary aswell, and it was riveting, and in the old thread someone described it as convincing, and yeah now having watched it id say it was quite convincing aswell.

One of the main questions or doubts about their claims i had before watching it was the fact or why they had now changed thier storys (meaning went from denying it to now not denying it) and their reasons for that made sence and believable.

[drush9999]

Originally Posted by Si Parallel Universe

I shall not be buying this. I watched it on TV it was truly disturbing .. That was enough for me

This

Can't imagine this thread lasting long either

[Andy2992]

https://www.channel4.com/programmes/...mand/63905-001

Just watch it here for free. Good documentary but not sure who would want to actually own it or watch it over and over.

[McCrutchy]

Apparently, Channel 4 aired a cut down version of the documentary compared to the four-hour version shown on HBO, so I'm curious which version will be on the Blu-ray. Online, 4 says the first part is 93 minutes, while the second part is 96 minutes, for a total of 189 minutes. Yet, the HBO version was almost 240 minutes in duration, and I've seen 236 minutes quoted as the full running time.

If the UK Blu-ray is the Channel 4 cut, then perhaps HBO will issue the full version on Blu-ray.

[CelestialAgent]

Originally Posted by McCrutchy

Apparently, Channel 4 aired a cut down version of the documentary compared to the four-hour version shown on HBO, so I'm curious which version will be on the Blu-ray.

If it is cut, perhaps HBO will issue their version on Blu-ray.

I did notice this, I assumed people saying it’s four hours was including commercials but obviously not. Maybe Channel 4 was limited by their broadcast slot? Plus we didn’t get the hour long discussion with Oprah afterwards either. So a similar situation to The Vietnam War when it was broadcast on BBC4, which was condensed by about a third; the full version wasn’t available over here until PBS added it to Netflix I believe.

[Bullitt]

Sham of a documentary.
It's been edited as fans have already been pulling it apart with its lies.
They have decided to remove certain parts of it.

[Scott in UK]

I didnt watch it on Channel 4. The copy i watched was uncut and 4 hours long!!

Channel 4 didnt cut it because of it containing lies, they cut it for commercial/advertising time.

[SymbioticFunction]

Yeah, around 25 per cent of it was missing on the channel 4 version. The full length version can be found on youtube if you have a good search. Ditto with Oprah's After Neverland special. And I'm pretty convinced that channel 4 didn't edit it down because they were removing lies.

[Marv Inc.]

Their actually putting this cancer on disc and making more money from it,wew.

[Bullitt]

Originally Posted by Marv Inc.

Their actually putting this cancer on disc and making more money from it,wew.

But sure,its not about money.That's another lie they are running with.

It may be edited for commercial reasons but why remove proven lies?
Be easier to cut the latest shots of Neverland.....ohh wait,they wanted to include them so MJ fans would tune in and boost ratings.

Instead things like the dramatic burning of the Thriller jacket Wade received from MJ were taken out.
The jacket were only two were made,one is in the rock n roll hall of fame,the other was confirmed by Juliens auctions as having been sold in 2011 for $1.8M

[Si Parallel Universe]

Originally Posted by Bullitt

Sham of a documentary.
It's been edited as fans have already been pulling it apart with its lies.
They have decided to remove certain parts of it.

People who have survived historical CSA and/or those that know people that have recognise people that have been abused. The testimony is authentic.

Not sure why anyone would think that any of the people were lying.

[Bullitt]

Originally Posted by Si Parallel Universe

People who have survived historical CSA and/or those that know people that have recognise people that have been abused. The testimony is authentic.

Not sure why anyone would think that any of the people were lying.

PMSL.
It's anything but authentic,its about extorting money from the Jackson Estate.

It's a fiction movie full of contradictions and plot holes,not to mentioned how biased it is and how poorly investigated it was......but that's for a reason.

"Why would anyone think they were lying?"

Well,they have defended him for years,they didn't want a criminal case,they want a civil case,kerching.$
Their stories have changed numerous times.
They have been proven to be lying about alot of things,their timelines are all over the place.

[Bullitt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBf5...ature=youtu.be

If anyone wants an unbiased version of events.

[badfingerboogie]

Pure, unadulterated trash.

[Ben_C]

I'd rather watch Moonwalker.

[Si Parallel Universe]

Originally Posted by Bullitt

PMSL.
It's anything but authentic,its about extorting money from the Jackson Estate.

It's a fiction movie full of contradictions and plot holes,not to mentioned how biased it is and how poorly investigated it was......but that's for a reason.

"Why would anyone think they were lying?"

Well,they have defended him for years,they didn't want a criminal case,they want a civil case,kerching.$
Their stories have changed numerous times.
They have been proven to be lying about alot of things,their timelines are all over the place.

Sorry. I fail to see what is funny about CSA or its victims.

There are no 'plot holes' this not a film this is the testimony of two victims and the testimony of their family members and latterly their spouses.

Wade Robson has a successful career as a music producer and choreographer , NSYNC and Britney Spears are two of his clients you may have heard of them ? They aren't exactly small change.

What specifically are you claiming are the lies there ?

I mean Three Children in addition to the latter testimony have said the same thing independently at different points in time and were not known to eachother because the abuser kept them apart.

That an adult taking children to sleep in their bed in hotel rooms and various residential locations , children they are not a parent or guardian to , that that behaviour alone is not a giant red flag is questionable in itself.

Like I said anyone that has survived CSA or knows someone who has knows authentic testimony when they hear it. Some don't even speak about it all . Some take it to the grave, some take their own lives because they think they are to blame for allowing it to happen. At the end of the day this happened to children.

[Si Parallel Universe]

Originally Posted by Bullitt

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBf5...ature=youtu.be

If anyone wants an unbiased version of events.

How is that 'unbiased' ? Why would it use the word atrocious if it was an objective look at matters ?

[Bullitt]

Originally Posted by Si Parallel Universe

Sorry. I fail to see what is funny about CSA or its victims.

There are no 'plot holes' this not a film this is the testimony of two victims and the testimony of their family members and latterly their spouses.

Wade Robson has a successful career as a music producer and choreographer , NSYNC and Britney Spears are two of his clients you may have heard of them ? They aren't exactly small change.

What specifically are you claiming are the lies there ?

I mean Three Children in addition to the latter testimony have said the same thing independently at different points in time and were not known to eachother because the abuser kept them apart.

That an adult taking children to sleep in their bed in hotel rooms and various residential locations , children they are not a parent or guardian to , that that behaviour alone is not a giant red flag is questionable in itself.

Like I said anyone that has survived CSA or knows someone who has knows authentic testimony when they hear it. Some don't even speak about it all . Some take it to the grave, some take their own lives because they think they are to blame for allowing it to happen. At the end of the day this happened to children.

They aren't victims,in fact,many real abuse victims have said the same after seeing it.
The testimony like a mother dancing when she heard MJ was dead but yet her son hadn't told her of any abuse at that stage.

Funny you mention NSYNC and Britney Spears,it was Wade Robson who slept with her and broke up the relationship with Justin Timberlake.

Successful career?once maybe but that has been in decline,you know he had breakdowns because of it?
His wife threatened to leave him with the pressure of mounting debts?

He is on record stating he was choreographing the MJ Cirque show when he never got the job...when all this started falling apart on him,he then realised he was abused? Catch yourself on.

Yes many real abuse victims do take it to the grave because they can't face what happened to them.....what they don't do is continually support that person for years saying nothing happened.

Michael Jackson kept who apart?
You're clueless.The only people who have ever claimed anything happened wanted money,the thousands who have been to Neverland but aren't going to sell their soul to the devil have always stated nothing ever happened.

Of course the video is unbiased,says slot about you that you say otherwise.
Its atrocious the media's handling of lies.....the other day,it was two Mexican kids in the 80's,again lies,the public records are all there to view.