Just got PCM surround sound.. what to see first? - Blu-ray Forum

kikkomaniac · 11-19-2007, 11:12 PM

Hi all, just got surround for the first time. Which one of my blu-ray's should I see/hear first?? Which movie gives me the best surround feeling?

Thanks for your help

My gear is:

60 GB PS3
Onkyo 805
Kef 5005.2

GoldenRedux · 11-19-2007, 11:14 PM

Moved to Newbie Discussion

w_tanoto · 11-19-2007, 11:14 PM

ratatouille is the best BD i've owned so far with best PQ and SQ. just my 2 cent (or is it 1 pence in UK)?

kikkomaniac · 11-19-2007, 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by w_tanoto

ratatouille is the best BD i've owned so far with best PQ and SQ. just my 2 cent (or is it 1 pence in UK)?

I would like to watch it, but it's region coded. And I live in europe. I belive it dosnt come out until jan/feb over here

w_tanoto · 11-19-2007, 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kikkomaniac

I would like to watch it, but it's region coded. And I live in europe. I belive it dosnt come out until jan/feb over here

I live in UK, but fortunately I got a Japanese PS3 (region A)
may I suggest that you stick with titles released by buena vista, as they are known for their quality (especially SQ).... such as pirates series (pirates 3 is out in UK), apocalypto

theknub · 11-19-2007, 11:31 PM

a lot of good choices on there. potc have been widely regarded as awesome, casino royale is a fav of mine, black hawk down is amazing, kingdom of heaven is great as well..... i could go on but i really don't think u'll do too poorly to start with some of those.

shazzed · 11-20-2007, 01:33 AM

Black Hawk Down surround sound is sweet as.
I remember it won some award back in 2002 for it's sound, as well as a few more...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_H..._(film)#Awards

kikkomaniac · 11-20-2007, 07:40 AM

anymore voters please? Right now its a tie

quetzalcoatl · 11-20-2007, 07:43 AM

Sorry I cannot get excited about PCM sound. Since I want everything bitstreamed and decoded by my receiver. And not to mention all those DTS HD MA titles you will only get core. Since you cannot decode or pass it bitstream.

Zaphod · 11-20-2007, 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quetzalcoatl

Sorry I cannot get excited about PCM sound. Since I want everything bitstreamed and decoded by my receiver.

Why? DTS-MA offers no more than uncompressed PCM.

BTW I'd take off Shooter, it doesn't use any HD audio, just DD. Thus would not benefit from your new system.

X400 · 11-20-2007, 08:23 AM

i dont know about the blu-ray but the dvd of Tears of the Sun is very nice, i can only imagine the Blu-Ray would be better, i just ordered it for my dad the other day so i guess ill find out soon enough

jkwest · 11-20-2007, 04:07 PM

Grab a copy of The Descent.

amazing 6.1 on that baby...

Question to the mods...why did you move this to Newbie discussion? This should be in audio...

This poster has been around for a long time...

m_tyson · 11-20-2007, 04:16 PM

Black Hawk Down and (not on your list) Cars!

kikkomaniac · 11-20-2007, 07:05 PM

Hi guys!

Now everything is set up and it sounds FANTASTIC!!!

But - I have a question. My setup is a PS3 and Onkyo 805 and KEF 5005.2

I know the PS3 cannot pass True HD, or master audio to the reciever. Therefore I want lossless uncompressed PCM audio. I have set PS3 to "linear PCM" then the PS3 should send the sound uncrompressed. Is this the correct way to do it?

When I activate the "display" button on the PS3 remote I get this information in the upper right corner:

On DVD's with DTS it shows: "DTS" "5.1 ch" "48 kHz" "1.5 Mbps" Is this the correct quality?

---------------------------------------
With blu-ray I get these results:
---------------------------------------
Apocalypto says "linear PCM" "5.1 ch" "48 kHz" "6.9 Mbps" Is this the correct quality?
---------------------------------------
5'th element (remastered) says "Dolby TrueHD" "5.1 ch" "48kHz" "3 Mbps" Is this the correct quality?
---------------------------------------
Black Hawk Down says "linear PCM" "5.1 ch" "48 kHz" "4.6 Mbps" Is this the correct quality?
---------------------------------------
POTC - dead mans chest says "linear PCM" "5.1 ch" "48 kHz" "6.9 Mbps" Is this the correct quality?
---------------------------------------

Many thanks in advance

P.S. I feel like calling in sick tomorrow

quetzalcoatl · 11-20-2007, 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kikkomaniac

Hi guys!

Now everything is set up and it sounds FANTASTIC!!!

But - I have a question. My setup is a PS3 and Onkyo 805 and KEF 5005.2

I know the PS3 cannot pass True HD, or master audio to the reciever. Therefore I want lossless uncompressed PCM audio. I have set PS3 to "linear PCM" then the PS3 should send the sound uncrompressed. Is this the correct way to do it?

When I activate the "display" button on the PS3 remote I get this information in the upper right corner:

On DVD's with DTS it shows: "DTS" "5.1 ch" "48 kHz" "1.5 Mbps" Is this the correct quality?

---------------------------------------
With blu-ray I get these results:
---------------------------------------
Apocalypto says "linear PCM" "5.1 ch" "48 kHz" "6.9 Mbps" Is this the correct quality?
---------------------------------------
5'th element (remastered) says "Dolby TrueHD" "5.1 ch" "48kHz" "3 Mbps" Is this the correct quality?
---------------------------------------
Black Hawk Down says "linear PCM" "5.1 ch" "48 kHz" "4.6 Mbps" Is this the correct quality?
---------------------------------------
POTC - dead mans chest says "linear PCM" "5.1 ch" "48 kHz" "6.9 Mbps" Is this the correct quality?
---------------------------------------

Many thanks in advance

P.S. I feel like calling in sick tomorrow

Yep it all looks right.

turboLAZER · 11-20-2007, 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kikkomaniac

Hi guys!

Now everything is set up and it sounds FANTASTIC!!!

But - I have a question. My setup is a PS3 and Onkyo 805 and KEF 5005.2

I know the PS3 cannot pass True HD, or master audio to the reciever. Therefore I want lossless uncompressed PCM audio. I have set PS3 to "linear PCM" then the PS3 should send the sound uncrompressed. Is this the correct way to do it?

When I activate the "display" button on the PS3 remote I get this information in the upper right corner:

On DVD's with DTS it shows: "DTS" "5.1 ch" "48 kHz" "1.5 Mbps" Is this the correct quality?

---------------------------------------
With blu-ray I get these results:
---------------------------------------
Apocalypto says "linear PCM" "5.1 ch" "48 kHz" "6.9 Mbps" Is this the correct quality?
---------------------------------------
5'th element (remastered) says "Dolby TrueHD" "5.1 ch" "48kHz" "3 Mbps" Is this the correct quality?
---------------------------------------
Black Hawk Down says "linear PCM" "5.1 ch" "48 kHz" "4.6 Mbps" Is this the correct quality?
---------------------------------------
POTC - dead mans chest says "linear PCM" "5.1 ch" "48 kHz" "6.9 Mbps" Is this the correct quality?
---------------------------------------

Many thanks in advance

P.S. I feel like calling in sick tomorrow

i thought the Fifth Element remastered has a 5.1 LPCM aswell as dolby truehd

Blu-Light · 11-20-2007, 07:46 PM

What do you guys play titles like Foxes "Day after tomorrow" that only has DD and DTS MA?

I am about to watch it as well and want the best sound I can get..Still undecided on whether to keep the 805 I got with the CC price of 649.00 a few weeks ago.

quetzalcoatl · 11-20-2007, 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blu-Light

What do you guys play titles like Foxes "Day after tomorrow" that only has DD and DTS MA?

I am about to watch it as well and want the best sound I can get..Still undecided on whether to keep the 805 I got with the CC price of 649.00 a few weeks ago.

In order to get the best sound from that receiver you really need a standalone. Of which the best buy right now is the Panasonic 30 to bitstream the audio for you.

Because of the way that DTS is set up you will always get the core track and it has a higher bitrate than most DD tracks. So I would go with DTS on it.

Blu-Light · 11-20-2007, 07:55 PM

Only have a PS3...Thinking of getting another but the fact it can't pass bitstream and wont decode DTS MA is holding me back.

cleric · 11-21-2007, 01:08 PM

Honestly my favorite mixed movie is probably Apocalypse Now unfortunately its not out on either hd format. Then We Were Soldiers which is out on both formats and sports a EX track, better speaker config than 7.1 imo, though I still prefer a quality 5.1 setup.

View Poll Results: What do YOU recommend? Only 1 movie is allowed
Flags of out Fathers	0	0%
Casino Royale	6	13.95%
300	6	13.95%
Corpse Bride	0	0%
Tears if the Sun	1	2.33%
Pearl Harbour	2	4.65%
The Last Samurai	1	2.33%
Shooter	0	0%
The Patriot	1	2.33%
Eight Below	0	0%
The fifth element (remastered)	1	2.33%
Stargate	0	0%
Kingdom of heaven	0	0%
Planet earth	0	0%
TOTO 25'th anniversary	0	0%
Ant Bully	0	0%
X-men - The last stand	1	2.33%
Troy	0	0%
Underworld	1	2.33%
The Host	0	0%
Apocalypto	2	4.65%
Black hawk down	5	11.63%
Swordfish	0	0%
POTC - the curse	4	9.30%
POTC - dead man's chest	8	18.60%
Letters of IWO JIMA	0	0%
	4	9.30%
Voters: 43. You may not vote on this poll

11-19-2007, 11:12 PM	#1
kikkomaniac Active Member Member since:Jun 2006	Just got PCM surround sound.. what to see first? Hi all, just got surround for the first time. Which one of my blu-ray's should I see/hear first?? Which movie gives me the best surround feeling? Thanks for your help My gear is: 60 GB PS3 Onkyo 805 Kef 5005.2

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11-19-2007, 11:14 PM	#2
GoldenRedux Power Member Member since:Sep 2006 Blu-ray reviews:1	Moved to Newbie Discussion

11-19-2007, 11:14 PM	#3
w_tanoto Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Hatfield, UK / Jakarta, Indonesia Blu-ray collection:37 Blu-ray reviews:47	ratatouille is the best BD i've owned so far with best PQ and SQ. just my 2 cent (or is it 1 pence in UK)?

11-19-2007, 11:31 PM	#6
theknub Blu-ray Guru Member since:May 2006	a lot of good choices on there. potc have been widely regarded as awesome, casino royale is a fav of mine, black hawk down is amazing, kingdom of heaven is great as well..... i could go on but i really don't think u'll do too poorly to start with some of those.

11-20-2007, 01:33 AM	#7
shazzed Member Member since:Nov 2007 Blu-ray collection:18	Black Hawk Down surround sound is sweet as. I remember it won some award back in 2002 for it's sound, as well as a few more... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_H..._(film)#Awards

11-20-2007, 07:40 AM	#8
kikkomaniac Active Member Member since:Jun 2006	anymore voters please? Right now its a tie

11-20-2007, 07:43 AM	#9
quetzalcoatl Special Member Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Grants Pass, OR	Sorry I cannot get excited about PCM sound. Since I want everything bitstreamed and decoded by my receiver. And not to mention all those DTS HD MA titles you will only get core. Since you cannot decode or pass it bitstream.

11-20-2007, 08:23 AM	#11
X400 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Kent Blu-ray collection:328 Blu-ray reviews:41 Trading Score:23	i dont know about the blu-ray but the dvd of Tears of the Sun is very nice, i can only imagine the Blu-Ray would be better, i just ordered it for my dad the other day so i guess ill find out soon enough

11-20-2007, 04:07 PM	#12
jkwest Off-Topic King Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Northern California PSN Id: jkwest5 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:20	Grab a copy of The Descent. amazing 6.1 on that baby... Question to the mods...why did you move this to Newbie discussion? This should be in audio... This poster has been around for a long time...

11-20-2007, 04:16 PM	#13
m_tyson Senior Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:La Jolla Trading Score:10	Black Hawk Down and (not on your list) Cars!

11-20-2007, 07:05 PM	#14
kikkomaniac Active Member Member since:Jun 2006	Hi guys! Now everything is set up and it sounds FANTASTIC!!! But - I have a question. My setup is a PS3 and Onkyo 805 and KEF 5005.2 I know the PS3 cannot pass True HD, or master audio to the reciever. Therefore I want lossless uncompressed PCM audio. I have set PS3 to "linear PCM" then the PS3 should send the sound uncrompressed. Is this the correct way to do it? When I activate the "display" button on the PS3 remote I get this information in the upper right corner: On DVD's with DTS it shows: "DTS" "5.1 ch" "48 kHz" "1.5 Mbps" Is this the correct quality? --------------------------------------- With blu-ray I get these results: --------------------------------------- Apocalypto says "linear PCM" "5.1 ch" "48 kHz" "6.9 Mbps" Is this the correct quality? --------------------------------------- 5'th element (remastered) says "Dolby TrueHD" "5.1 ch" "48kHz" "3 Mbps" Is this the correct quality? --------------------------------------- Black Hawk Down says "linear PCM" "5.1 ch" "48 kHz" "4.6 Mbps" Is this the correct quality? --------------------------------------- POTC - dead mans chest says "linear PCM" "5.1 ch" "48 kHz" "6.9 Mbps" Is this the correct quality? --------------------------------------- Many thanks in advance P.S. I feel like calling in sick tomorrow

11-20-2007, 07:46 PM	#17
Blu-Light Expert Member Member since:Oct 2006	What do you guys play titles like Foxes "Day after tomorrow" that only has DD and DTS MA? I am about to watch it as well and want the best sound I can get..Still undecided on whether to keep the 805 I got with the CC price of 649.00 a few weeks ago.

11-20-2007, 07:55 PM	#19
Blu-Light Expert Member Member since:Oct 2006	Only have a PS3...Thinking of getting another but the fact it can't pass bitstream and wont decode DTS MA is holding me back.

11-21-2007, 01:08 PM	#20
cleric Member Member since:Nov 2007 Location:Reality	Honestly my favorite mixed movie is probably Apocalypse Now unfortunately its not out on either hd format. Then We Were Soldiers which is out on both formats and sports a EX track, better speaker config than 7.1 imo, though I still prefer a quality 5.1 setup.

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