Tora,Tora, Tora!!! or Pearl Harbor??? - Blu-ray Forum

Sancho Panza · 06-26-2013, 04:56 PM

re-watching them both today...which do like best, and why???

HD Goofnut · 06-26-2013, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Sancho Panza

re-watching them both today...which do like best, and why?

Tora! Tora! Tora! because it's much more historically accurate and doesn't have a useless love triangle.

"You want confirmation, Captain? There's your confirmation!"

MifuneFan · 06-26-2013, 05:07 PM

Tora! X's 3 is the superior film, though modern audiences may find that it drags on a bit and isn't as engaging as Pearl Harbor. It has an almost documentary or reality style feel to it at times.

The only knock against Tora! is lack of credit given to Kurosawa for his work on the screenplay. I would also love to see some of his footage as extras. He did 2-3 weeks of shooting before being replaced.

nagysaudio · 06-26-2013, 05:08 PM

Both sucked.

Abdrewes · 06-26-2013, 05:10 PM

I haven't seen TTT yet, but it can't be as bad as Pearl Harbor

blu-ray_girl_fan · 06-26-2013, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

Tora! Tora! Tora! because it's much more historically accurate and doesn't have a useless love triangle.

"You want confirmation, Captain? There's your confirmation!"

Tora! Tora! Tora! has one of the best scenes in a war movie.

"No, you idiot! It's your own flagship!"

chris_sc77 · 06-26-2013, 05:12 PM

Pearl Harbor. Far more entertaining. TTT might be a more respectable film but it is also more likely to put you to sleep.

The Great Owl · 06-26-2013, 05:17 PM

Tora! Tora! Tora! is the best movie by far. It's a cohesive and accurate story with some outstanding old school special effects.

I must admit, though, that Pearl Harbor has the best ladies. Kate Beckinsale, Jaime King, Jennifer Garner, etc.

So, the final score...
Best ladies: Pearl Harbor
Best everything else: Tora! Tora! Tora!

Movie Man Don · 06-26-2013, 05:20 PM

TTT is my favorite. Just a better made, factual movie.
I think another worth while poll would be between TTT and Midway. One with a Japanese slant vs and American slant. Same story line.

Abdrewes · 06-26-2013, 05:21 PM

Pearl Harbor also has that awesomely earnest Faith Hill song, There you'll be, going for it.

ORDER66 · 06-26-2013, 05:26 PM

Tora! Tora! Tora! hands down!

blu-ray_girl_fan · 06-26-2013, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Abdrewes

Pearl Harbor also has that awesomely earnest Faith Hill song, There you'll be, going for it.

varmintx · 06-26-2013, 05:41 PM

Well, since Tora! Tora! Tora! isn't a Michael Bay cinematic atrocity, I think I'll vote for that.

troysayshi · 06-26-2013, 07:23 PM

If only that crop duster at the start of Pearl Harbor turned into a Transformer.

arcadeforest · 06-26-2013, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by blu-ray_girl_fan

lol

Abdrewes · 06-26-2013, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by blu-ray_girl_fan

[Show spoiler]

I have a thing for cheesy overblown pop-hits (the opening bar scene in Con Air has me on cloud 9). It's has pretty dumb lyrics, but then again, they are near-Bob Dylan-esque compared to Bay's film.

How can you say no to this strapping blonde?

raygendreau · 06-26-2013, 07:37 PM

Tora! Tora! Tora! is a docudrama about the attack on Pearl Harbor.
Pearl Harbor is a love story that happens to take place at Pearl Harbor.

The two films are so different that I don't think they should be compared to each other. In my opinion, neither is 'best'. To determine which is the superior movie, you have to introduce comparative parameters.
Best for historical accuracy; best for wide audience appeal; best performance at the box office; best for special effects (over 30 years separates the two movies, 1970 vs 2001.), etc.

I own both and enjoy watching both.

I can understand a comparison of Tora! Tora! Tora! to Gods and Generals better than I can to Pearl Harbor.

Abdrewes · 06-26-2013, 07:50 PM

I reccomend seeing From Here to Eternity over both.

HD Goofnut · 06-26-2013, 08:04 PM

Got a kick out of this one.

HonestJohn · 06-26-2013, 08:35 PM

Tora, Tora, Tora for all the reasons already mentioned.

View Poll Results: Tora, Tora, Tora!!!, or Pearl Harbor???
Tora, Tora, Tora!!!	45	68.18%
Pearl Harbor	14	21.21%
ALL of the Above	2	3.03%
NONE of the Above	5	7.58%
Voters: 66. You may not vote on this poll

06-26-2013, 04:56 PM	#1
Sancho Panza Active Member Member since:Aug 2010 Location:Beauvoir, MISSISSIPPI 4K collection:2 Blu-ray collection:230 DVD collection:103 Blu-ray reviews:1	Tora,Tora, Tora!!! or Pearl Harbor??? re-watching them both today...which do like best, and why??? Last edited by Sancho Panza; 06-26-2013 at 04:58 PM.

06-26-2013, 08:35 PM	#20
HonestJohn Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jan 2011 Location:The Final Frontier ... 4K collection:419 Blu-ray collection:547 DVD collection:2 Trading Score:2	Tora, Tora, Tora for all the reasons already mentioned. Last edited by HonestJohn; 06-26-2013 at 11:03 PM.

06-26-2013, 05:07 PM	#3
MifuneFan Blu-ray Emperor Top contributor Member since:Mar 2012 Location:New York City 4K collection:27 Blu-ray collection:1143 Trading Score:69	Tora! X's 3 is the superior film, though modern audiences may find that it drags on a bit and isn't as engaging as Pearl Harbor. It has an almost documentary or reality style feel to it at times. The only knock against Tora! is lack of credit given to Kurosawa for his work on the screenplay. I would also love to see some of his footage as extras. He did 2-3 weeks of shooting before being replaced.

06-26-2013, 05:08 PM	#4
nagysaudio Banned Top contributor Member since:Aug 2011 Blu-ray collection:274 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:8	Both sucked.

06-26-2013, 05:10 PM	#5
Abdrewes Blu-ray Prince Top contributor Member since:May 2011 Location:Texas 4K collection:767 Blu-ray collection:9831 DVD collection:523 Digital collection:1 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:362	I haven't seen TTT yet, but it can't be as bad as Pearl Harbor

06-26-2013, 05:12 PM	#7
chris_sc77 Banned Member since:Feb 2012 Location:OH Blu-ray collection:1345 DVD collection:4285 Digital collection:144 Trading Score:777	Pearl Harbor. Far more entertaining. TTT might be a more respectable film but it is also more likely to put you to sleep.

06-26-2013, 05:17 PM	#8
The Great Owl Blu-ray Archduke Member since:Dec 2012 Location:Georgia 4K collection:921 Blu-ray collection:6029 DVD collection:28 Blu-ray reviews: 255 Trading Score:6	Tora! Tora! Tora! is the best movie by far. It's a cohesive and accurate story with some outstanding old school special effects. I must admit, though, that Pearl Harbor has the best ladies. Kate Beckinsale, Jaime King, Jennifer Garner, etc. So, the final score... Best ladies: Pearl Harbor Best everything else: Tora! Tora! Tora!

06-26-2013, 05:20 PM	#9
Movie Man Don Active Member Member since:Jun 2012 Location:Sun City, California Home Theater Gallery:23	TTT is my favorite. Just a better made, factual movie. I think another worth while poll would be between TTT and Midway. One with a Japanese slant vs and American slant. Same story line.

06-26-2013, 05:21 PM	#10
Abdrewes Blu-ray Prince Top contributor Member since:May 2011 Location:Texas 4K collection:767 Blu-ray collection:9831 DVD collection:523 Digital collection:1 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:362	Pearl Harbor also has that awesomely earnest Faith Hill song, There you'll be, going for it.

06-26-2013, 05:26 PM	#11
ORDER66 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jul 2012 Location:My Theater... 4K collection:806 Blu-ray collection:2084 DVD collection:39 Digital collection:787 Trading Score:10	Tora! Tora! Tora! hands down!

06-26-2013, 05:41 PM	#13
varmintx Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Covington, KY PSN/NNID:varmintx 4K collection:8 Blu-ray collection:1002 DVD collection:199 Trading Score:5	Well, since Tora! Tora! Tora! isn't a Michael Bay cinematic atrocity, I think I'll vote for that.

06-26-2013, 07:23 PM	#14
troysayshi Senior Member Member since:Nov 2010 4K collection:74 Blu-ray collection:1029 DVD collection:170 iTunes collection:3	If only that crop duster at the start of Pearl Harbor turned into a Transformer.

06-26-2013, 07:37 PM	#17
raygendreau Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Oct 2008 Blu-ray reviews: 1	Tora! Tora! Tora! is a docudrama about the attack on Pearl Harbor. Pearl Harbor is a love story that happens to take place at Pearl Harbor. The two films are so different that I don't think they should be compared to each other. In my opinion, neither is 'best'. To determine which is the superior movie, you have to introduce comparative parameters. Best for historical accuracy; best for wide audience appeal; best performance at the box office; best for special effects (over 30 years separates the two movies, 1970 vs 2001.), etc. I own both and enjoy watching both. I can understand a comparison of Tora! Tora! Tora! to Gods and Generals better than I can to Pearl Harbor.

06-26-2013, 07:50 PM	#18
Abdrewes Blu-ray Prince Top contributor Member since:May 2011 Location:Texas 4K collection:767 Blu-ray collection:9831 DVD collection:523 Digital collection:1 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:362	I reccomend seeing From Here to Eternity over both.

06-26-2013, 08:04 PM	#19
HD Goofnut Blu-ray King Top contributor Member since:May 2010 Location:Far, Far Away Home Theater Gallery:114 4K collection:743 Blu-ray collection:2373 DVD collection:128 MA collection:751 Digital collection:1091 Prime collection:598 Blu-ray reviews:133 Trading Score:39	Got a kick out of this one.

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