So What Does Sony REALLY Get by Winning? - Blu-ray Forum

akadkins · 10-27-2007, 10:31 PM

Does anyone know? Do they collect revenue from every Blu-Ray disc or player sold, even if not done by their company? If this is true, is some company out there making a few cents on every DVD (or VHS if still sold) disc and player?

Just wondering - figured it had to be the case in some manner since Toshiba was willing to shell out so much to promote HD-DVD, otherwise, why would a company care in the long-run?

EricJ · 10-27-2007, 10:41 PM

They hold most of the patents on the player and disk technology, as well as the mastering equipment/process (which they lost when DVD was mainstreamed--

For the exact same reason that Microsoft wants to hold on to their movie-coding patents.

Elandyll · 10-27-2007, 10:55 PM

I've read somewher that Panasonic had atually the most patents in Blu Ray no ?

But yeah. They get dividends (as well as many BDA founders I guess), and probably a tech. lead compared to Tosh in materirals released.

It will be a very tough next 5 years for Tosh after HD DVD goes down the drain...

Zyclone · 10-27-2007, 11:53 PM

by winning sony gets to crush their enemies, see them driven before them , and to hear the lamentation of their women

HK-48 · 10-27-2007, 11:57 PM

I heard that Sony could get up to $10 billion in licensing fees. I don't now how true the article I got that info from is though.

Smallville206 · 10-28-2007, 12:01 AM

Respect, sticking with a format that ends up winning out. Maybe people would stop bringing up the whole VSH/Beta crap.

Whytewash · 10-28-2007, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by akadkins

Does anyone know? Do they collect revenue from every Blu-Ray disc or player sold, even if not done by their company? If this is true, is some company out there making a few cents on every DVD (or VHS if still sold) disc and player?

Just wondering - figured it had to be the case in some manner since Toshiba was willing to shell out so much to promote HD-DVD, otherwise, why would a company care in the long-run?

I thought Toshiba gets royalties from every DVD and DVD player sold because they pioneered the technology. Is that true?

Blu As Hell · 10-28-2007, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Zyclone

by winning sony gets to crush their enemies, see them driven before them , and to hear the lamentation of their women

Watching too much Conan I see. LOL!!!!

jorg · 10-28-2007, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by EricJ

They hold most of the patents on the player and disk technology, as well as the mastering equipment/process (which they lost when DVD was mainstreamed--

For the exact same reason that Microsoft wants to hold on to their movie-coding patents.

actrualy sony has the basic/early patents but after the basic/ground work
but after that phillips has alot and pannisonic has alot of the prossesing/mastering equtment patents

mdm1699 · 10-28-2007, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by akadkins

Does anyone know? Do they collect revenue from every Blu-Ray disc or player sold, even if not done by their company? If this is true, is some company out there making a few cents on every DVD (or VHS if still sold) disc and player?

Just wondering - figured it had to be the case in some manner since Toshiba was willing to shell out so much to promote HD-DVD, otherwise, why would a company care in the long-run?

One platform to rule them all.

divedeeper · 10-28-2007, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Whytewash

I thought Toshiba gets royalties from every DVD and DVD player sold because they pioneered the technology. Is that true?

I thought it was JVC who got the DVD Royalties....

Can't remember now.

Apollo 18 · 10-28-2007, 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Whytewash

I thought Toshiba gets royalties from every DVD and DVD player sold because they pioneered the technology. Is that true?

I read that as well. Wikipedia says the DVD format was developed by Toshiba.

Brain Sturgeon · 10-28-2007, 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Zyclone

by winning sony gets to crush their enemies, see them driven before them , and to hear the lamentation of their women

I LOL'd!

That's one of my favorite quotes; and must be delivered with the Governator's accent.

HK-48 · 10-28-2007, 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by divedeeper

I thought it was JVC who got the DVD Royalties....

Can't remember now.

JVC had VHS.

RUR · 10-28-2007, 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Zyclone

by winning sony gets to crush their enemies, see them driven before them , and to hear the lamentation of their women

Funniest post in a long while!

stockstar1138 · 10-28-2007, 05:04 AM

sony will get money/royalties for all blu-ray discs sold. however, panasonic hold more blu-ray patenets, so they do get more than sony would. while many ppl think blu-ray is like 90% made up by sony, they are completely wrong. heres the catch dvd was made by toshiba, so by staling consumers with this format war, they actually are winning, because they keep consumers using dvd whitch they get royalites from. with toshiba, if they stall they win, if they win they win, they only way they can lose is by conceeding, and with being a bigger company in terms of market capatilization than ms they won't be any time soon.

pro-bassoonist · 10-28-2007, 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by stockstar1138

sony will get money/royalties for all blu-ray discs sold. however, panasonic hold more blu-ray patenets, so they do get more than sony would.

That is indeed the case. When it comes to winners, if there should be one, and winning the lion's share after the war then nobody comes even close to Panasonic. They are the true giant here with most patents.

To put it bluntly: there is absolutely no comparison between the two. Even with SONY's film offshoot SPHE Panasonic are still on top.

Dr.A

sj001 · 10-28-2007, 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Zyclone

by winning sony gets to crush their enemies, see them driven before them , and to hear the lamentation of their women

One of my favorite quotes ever!

Toshiba stands to lose a ton if Blu-ray wins, and Sony will make big on royalties for Blu-ray, though Panasonic, Phillips, and others would share in this.

Jonzy · 10-28-2007, 06:03 AM

I heard if blu ray wins all sony employees and blu ray supporters get one free taco from taco bell. Personally im hoping for a free donut from krispy kreme. Lets keep those fingers crossed.

Manco · 10-28-2007, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by divedeeper

I thought it was JVC who got the DVD Royalties....

Can't remember now.

The DVD6C Licensing Group (contributing patent holders):

Toshiba
Warner Home Video
Hitachi
JVC
Matsushita (Panasonic)
Mitsubishi
Sanyo
Sharp
Samsung (recent member added in 2006)

10-27-2007, 10:31 PM	#1
akadkins Senior Member Member since:Jan 2007 Location:San Diego, CA Blu-ray collection:2 Trading Score:2	So What Does Sony REALLY Get by Winning? Does anyone know? Do they collect revenue from every Blu-Ray disc or player sold, even if not done by their company? If this is true, is some company out there making a few cents on every DVD (or VHS if still sold) disc and player? Just wondering - figured it had to be the case in some manner since Toshiba was willing to shell out so much to promote HD-DVD, otherwise, why would a company care in the long-run?

10-28-2007, 06:03 AM	#19
Jonzy Member Member since:Aug 2007 Blu-ray reviews:3	free taco night? I heard if blu ray wins all sony employees and blu ray supporters get one free taco from taco bell. Personally im hoping for a free donut from krispy kreme. Lets keep those fingers crossed.

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10-27-2007, 10:41 PM	#2
EricJ Banned Member since:Jul 2007 Location:The Paradise of New England Blu-ray collection:6	They hold most of the patents on the player and disk technology, as well as the mastering equipment/process (which they lost when DVD was mainstreamed-- For the exact same reason that Microsoft wants to hold on to their movie-coding patents.

10-27-2007, 10:55 PM	#3
Elandyll Blu-ray Knight Member since:Aug 2007 Location:MD Blu-ray collection:188 Trading Score:1	I've read somewher that Panasonic had atually the most patents in Blu Ray no ? But yeah. They get dividends (as well as many BDA founders I guess), and probably a tech. lead compared to Tosh in materirals released. It will be a very tough next 5 years for Tosh after HD DVD goes down the drain...

10-27-2007, 11:53 PM	#4
Zyclone Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jun 2007 Location:Somewhere over the rainbow Home Theater Gallery:3 Blu-ray collection:304	by winning sony gets to crush their enemies, see them driven before them , and to hear the lamentation of their women

10-27-2007, 11:57 PM	#5
HK-48 Active Member Member since:Aug 2007	I heard that Sony could get up to $10 billion in licensing fees. I don't now how true the article I got that info from is though.

10-28-2007, 12:01 AM	#6
Smallville206 Active Member Member since:Dec 2006 Location:Seattle, Washington	Respect, sticking with a format that ends up winning out. Maybe people would stop bringing up the whole VSH/Beta crap.

10-28-2007, 05:04 AM	#16
stockstar1138 Banned Member since:Apr 2007	sony will get money/royalties for all blu-ray discs sold. however, panasonic hold more blu-ray patenets, so they do get more than sony would. while many ppl think blu-ray is like 90% made up by sony, they are completely wrong. heres the catch dvd was made by toshiba, so by staling consumers with this format war, they actually are winning, because they keep consumers using dvd whitch they get royalites from. with toshiba, if they stall they win, if they win they win, they only way they can lose is by conceeding, and with being a bigger company in terms of market capatilization than ms they won't be any time soon.

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