Why must reality go out the window in movies unnecessarily?

[Frostmeister]

I know 'it's just a movie', but c'mon.
Was watching Iron man the other day to prep for Iron Man 3. Iron man falls from thousands of feet, the antagonist too, and every one walks away? Stark gets splattered to a wall, and nothing. Also he struggles to reach his original fake heart and can barely lift it, then when he gets it, he smashes the case with all his strength.
Also watched die Hard 4 the other day. is John McClain a Super hero now. How do you get the crap beat out of you and come back full strength?
Is it really necessary to have scenes like this? I know you have to suspend reality sometimes, but when it is that blatant, it really takes away from the movie. Just seems unnecessary to me

Your thoughts?

[RandyK]

IMO, reality is mostly boring.

[Tony208]

cause movies by definition are fake

[Abdrewes]

It takes a hell of a visual stylist for me to become absorbed in the unreal. YOU HAVE TO SET UP THE PHYSICAL STAKES or else I tune out. That's why most of my favorite films aren't action/blockbuster films.

[psychomugs]

Pretty much asking why fake things aren't real

Stark could smash the glass case because gravity helps his arm to fall. NOt much contention there

[gotexas872]

Originally Posted by Tony208

cause movies by definition are fake

This.

[QUOTE=psychomugs;7508513]Pretty much asking why fake things aren't real

And this.

[Al_The_Strange]

Originally Posted by Randyman94

IMO, reality is mostly boring.

Agreed.

[Hawkguy]

Originally Posted by Frostmeister

I know 'it's just a movie', but c'mon.
Was watching Iron man the other day to prep for Iron Man 3. Iron man falls from thousands of feet, the antagonist too, and every one walks away? Stark gets splattered to a wall, and nothing. Also he struggles to reach his original fake heart and can barely lift it, then when he gets it, he smashes the case with all his strength.

I don't really understand this...nothing else in that film is realistic, why would this part be an issue over all the rest?

I don't think it makes sense to complain about a fantasy/sci-fi/action film lacking reality...if they weren't lacking in it, they wouldn't be a fantasy/sci-fi/action film

[Abdrewes]

Originally Posted by CoopFilm

I don't really understand this...nothing else in that film is realistic, why would this part be an issue over all the rest?

I don't think it makes sense to complain about a fantasy/sci-fi/action film lacking reality...if they weren't lacking in it, they wouldn't be a fantasy/sci-fi/action film

I Think you're dead on. Let's narrow it down a bit, please. The conversation is way too generalized. The OP was specifically talking about Superhero films (yes, Die Hard 5 counts as one).

[Hawkguy]

Originally Posted by Abdrewes

I Think you're dead on. Let's narrow it down a bit, please. The conversation is way too generalized. The OP was specifically talking about Superhero films (yes, Die Hard 5 counts as one).

If that's the case, he's probably one of the only people looking for a completely realistic film about a superhero..

Although, I wouldn't mind seeing one, myself. I can't think of any.

[octagon]

Originally Posted by CoopFilm

If that's the case, he's probably one of the only people looking for a completely realistic film about a superhero..

Although, I wouldn't mind seeing one, myself. I can't think of any.

Chronicle. Sort of.

[Walts Ghost]

Originally Posted by Abdrewes

I Think you're dead on. Let's narrow it down a bit, please. The conversation is way too generalized. The OP was specifically talking about Superhero films (yes, Die Hard 5 counts as one).

Well, they are SUPER HERO films, which generally throw reality out the window when you have guys who turn into giant green monsters, a serum that makes gives someone superhuman abilities, a man creates a device to help keep him alive that is lodged in his chest, a boy from another planet gets powers because of our yellow son, a guy gets his skeleton graphed with a crazy indestructible material, etc, etc. The list goes on and on. I think you need suspension of disbelief at all times in movies like that. I'm not saying they shouldn't be logical, but they aren't exactly going for realism.

[Hawkguy]

Originally Posted by ashedmaniac

So you missed the opening where a defense contractor is in the Middle East during some military strife and suffers a life-threatening injury? Because that's fairly realistic these days and part of the reason the movie didn't open with a scene set in Vietnam instead. Because we're meant to relate it to our reality.

I get what you mean, but as a whole, Iron Man isn't a realistic film. We're not talking badly about these films, just claiming that we wouldn't have an Iron Man in real life. No real life Iron Man = not realistic

[octagon]

Originally Posted by Frostmeister

I know 'it's just a movie', but c'mon.
Was watching Iron man the other day to prep for Iron Man 3. Iron man falls from thousands of feet, the antagonist too, and every one walks away? Stark gets splattered to a wall, and nothing. Also he struggles to reach his original fake heart and can barely lift it, then when he gets it, he smashes the case with all his strength.

Why does the Hulk still have pants after he changes? So you can't see his Jolly Green Junk. Sometimes the answers are as simple as that and that's fine.

Originally Posted by Frostmeister

Also watched die Hard 4 the other day. is John McClain a Super hero now. How do you get the crap beat out of you and come back full strength?
Is it really necessary to have scenes like this? I know you have to suspend reality sometimes, but when it is that blatant, it really takes away from the movie. Just seems unnecessary to me

Your thoughts?

Here's the problem with the way the Die Hard movies progressed.

There's nothing inherently wrong with effectively super-human action heroes. The poet/professor who's a retired black-ops special forces operative might be a silly character but it's not a deal breaker. Ridiculous action sequences and unrealistically rugged, durable heroes are genre staples. And a lot of times they work very well.

The problem here is that 99% of the appeal of Die Hard was that John McClane wasn't that kind of action hero. Die Hard's hook was that the hero was a more or less regular guy stepping up in extreme circumstances.

The later Die Hard movies don't suck because unrealistic action movies all suck, they sucked because they refused to dance with the girl what brung 'em.

[Blu-Benny]

I enjoy movies b/c they allow me to tune out the real world. if I want to see something real….i’ll watch the news.

[Garrywhite]

thats just a fiction its not a reality you cant consider it as a fact. nothing is impossible in fiction stories

[BluBonnet]

The only problem is that 99% of moviegoers seem to be fine with it, otherwise the studios wouldn't be doing totally escapist fare.

Look at the bright side - there are lots of interesting documentaries out there!

[Petra_Kalbrain]

Originally Posted by BluBonnet

The only problem is that 99% of moviegoers seem to be fine with it, otherwise the studios wouldn't be doing totally escapist fare.

Look at the bright side - there are lots of interesting documentaries out there!

Quote for truth... and humour... because it is SO true tha it's funny!

[Blu Ian]

When I watch a movie I wanna escape reality.

Mostly because my life is so ****ed up and boring.

I don't care if Bruce Willis jumps from the moon down to earth without a scratch on him.

I don't care if a car blows up after one bullet.

I don't care if the movie has one liners.

I just wanna sit the **** down and watch a damn movie.

[cinemaphile]

because reality is boring. Yes, there can be realistic, grounded movies. But when youre talking superhero flicks and balls-out adrenaline action flicks, keeping everything purely grounded in reality would really make it a boring movie.

it's called suspension of disbelief - the cornerstone of motion pictures.