Good article gets AVS attack LOL

[Papi4baby]

http://www.cepro.com/article/big_box...t_war_battles/

Is actually pretty funny, what's that last phase of 5 step thing LOL

[Eddie who?]

Originally Posted by Papi4baby

http://www.cepro.com/article/big_box...t_war_battles/

Is actually pretty funny, what's that last phase of 5 step thing LOL

I think HDDUD needs to find themselves another 5 step program, lol.

[Papi4baby]

Come on guys feel free to jump in, im posting under Soso.

[mystiksuicide]

It's strange how no article has brought out the fact that Toshiba is losing they're ass with theses $99.00 players. How can this not be seen as a desperation firesale ?

[Sling]

Originally Posted by mystiksuicide

It's strange how no article has brought out the fact that Toshiba is losing they're ass with theses $99.00 players. How can this not be seen as a desperation firesale ?

Toshiba will be losing there return customers by dropping them 1080i cheap crap.
They pulled this move on there PC notebooks 10 years back and lost..heck they pulled this cheap crap with there big screen tv lineup. Toshiba is in another hole digging there selves deeper.
This isn't a format war.This is Toshiba taking advantage of un-tech savvy consumers feeding them table scraps .Most AVS members that are pioneer kuro crazy supports hddud and Toshiba's actions....
very sad...very sad.

[Dalese]

Originally Posted by mystiksuicide

It's strange how no article has brought out the fact that Toshiba is losing they're ass with theses $99.00 players. How can this not be seen as a desperation firesale ?

Or how the players being sold have been sitting around in warehouses and shipping containers unsold for almost a year.

[kaliraver]

You guys will love this, today I was working at the GS counter and I actually met my first customer since returning back to work today and guess what he was having a problem with? You guessed it, a Toshiba HD-DVD player. The player looked dated like an early model DVD player but it was in fact a Toshiba XA2. I didn't say anything to the customer but no wonder that thing's HDMI ports weren't working. That thing looked like it cost Toshiba $40 to make. Sorry to sound like a fanboy but I got to admit that Blu-Ray is the better "quality" product and superior technologically as well. BTW we ended up sending his unit in for service, go figure.

[lokus]

Originally Posted by mystiksuicide

It's strange how no article has brought out the fact that Toshiba is losing they're ass with theses $99.00 players. How can this not be seen as a desperation firesale ?

As a consumer, I personally don't care who loses money or how much they lose. Everyone keeps bringing this point up like it matters. Lets say they lose millions on this player. Well if they win the war they are set to make billions. It is a risk they are willing to take. I want the product for the least amount of money. In my opinion, many average consumers don't see an inexpensive player as a firesale. They see it as an opportunity to get into HDM.

[atomik kinder]

Originally Posted by lokus

As a consumer, I personally don't care who loses money or how much they lose. Everyone keeps bringing this point up like it matters. Lets say they lose millions on this player. Well if they win the war they are set to make billions. It is a risk they are willing to take. I want the product for the least amount of money. In my opinion, many average consumers don't see an inexpensive player as a firesale. They see it as an opportunity to get into HDM.

That is exactly why Toshiba is fighting so hard. If they lose to BD they will get absolutely no revenue from BD. Think of the billions they make every year from every DVD product sold which they helped develope. That would be gone and they would have nothing.

[yakman]

Originally Posted by mystiksuicide

It's strange how no article has brought out the fact that Toshiba is losing they're ass with theses $99.00 players. How can this not be seen as a desperation firesale ?

In the states that don't allow selling at below wholesale cost the dud2s were $185. That means with the $200M WB turned down Hoshiba can dump 2 million $99 players out there with that money. Without the $99 deal they weren't going to get any money for however many of these duds they had sitting in warehouses.