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Old 06-27-2025, 09:52 AM   #1
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Default Question/Irritation regarding Title field of "foreign" releases in the DB

Hey there,

I am genuinly irritated by something I experience often when working with the database, and I am not sure how to handle this. Maybe I am misunderstanding something, maybe it's something that needs more clarifying, idk. But here's the thing:

The help for the title field says the following:

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For English BDs always use the English title first, you can then optionally add the original name after within parentheses (). For foreign BDs use the foreign title first, then the English title within parantheses (), this will display the original/local country name as a subheading and make it searchable. Edition information should also be within parantheses (). You can edit other movies to see examples of how the titles have been set.


So just to pick something random, here's how I understand this:

I own a German BD (so a foreign release) of the movie "The 'Burbs" and in Germany it is called "Meine Teuflischen Nachbarn", so that's the foreign title. In this case, I should add it as:

Quote:
Meine Teuflischen Nachbarn (The 'Burbs)
Right?

Now here's my irritation: The Database is full of examples where this is done the opposite way, i.e.:

Quote:
'Burbs (Meine Teuflischen Nachbarn)
Now, if I see such a case I often just correct it myself. I usually don't check up on my contributions so I am not sure how often this happens, but just by chance I randomly saw an entry I did, that was changed back a while ago. And yesterday/today this happend once more, on two titles - one was a correction of mine, the other a new entry, and for both it was changed from "foreign (English)" to "English (foreign). So either I am missunderstanding this help text, or others are.

Personally, I don't care which ever way it is, however I care about consistency, because consistency is key to databases. If the help text is wrong or misunderstandable, than it should be changed. If the established practice is "English (foreign)" even for foreign releases and the vast majority are added this way, than maybe that rule should be considered for changing. Otherwise people doing this wrong should be educated.

I usually make use of the comment field and write in there why I change something - at least for the titles I always do that. So I am really irritated about seeing those changes ignored, or changed back and not even commenting/contacting me and saying "Hey I see you've changed this, you're misunderstanding this rule". As I said, I cannot say how often this has happend (and honestly I've got better things to do than to try and figure that out now), but by accident I noticed it at least three times, now.

And I'm not trying to put anyone on trial here, for me it's not about namedropping and I don't care about politics or anything; I just feel this should be something that is addressed somewhere. And if no one cares, then that's fine as well - then I'll add my new additions the way I interpret the rules and don't care if I find any mistakes in the DB.
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