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United Kingdom The Birth of a Nation (BFI) (Photoplay Restoration) (D.W. Griffith)



BFI released the Photoplay Productions restoration of D.W. Griffith's The Birth of a Nation (1915) in the UK last month.

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Are there any reviews or comparisons anywhere yet? I've been holding off getting the MoC version to see how this one stacks up.
 
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Confirmation:

Both discs in this set are REGION B LOCKED as indicated on the discs and packaging.

As noted above, this is the Photoplay Productions restoration of the film, which is a different restoration than the one released by Kino in the U.S. in 2011 and Eureka/MoC in the UK in 2013. It also includes a different score for the film (conducted by John Lanchbery), which is presented in either LPCM Stereo or DTS-HD MA 5.1. Since the film uses English-language intertitles, there is no need for any subtitling.

Accompanying the film on the first disc are the 1930 re-issue prologue and intermission, the outtakes and camera tests, the new Melvyn Stokes interview and the Kate Bruce newsreel. All of the other extras and films are on the second BD-50 disc.

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All of the following silent films are presented on Disc 2, with musical scores and English intertitles.

The Coward

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The Rose of Kentucky

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Stolen Glory

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The Drummer of the 8th (Original Edit)

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The Drummer of the 8th (2015 Re-edit)

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MPEG-4 AVC Video        18940 kbps          1080p / 24 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

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LPCM Audio                      English         1536 kbps       2.0 / 48 kHz / 1536 kbps / 16-bit

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2               0:06:56.458     0:06:02.666     21,346 kbps     37,351 kbps     00:12:29.125    33,053 kbps     00:08:33.250    32,901 kbps     00:12:28.583    111,178 bytes   546,144 bytes   00:12:21.458    
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4               0:20:09.916     0:08:14.874     17,843 kbps     41,544 kbps     00:22:31.166    36,597 kbps     00:22:28.333    34,086 kbps     00:22:27.291    92,947 bytes    525,407 bytes   00:22:31.541    

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00016.M2TS      4113 (0x1011)   0x1B            AVC                                     1704.708                18,941                  4,036,163,943   21,960,128      
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I watched a bunch of this last night... no contest, this is the best presentation of this film ever released. The image quality is excellent, nothing like the dupey, scratched up prints I've had to squint at in the past. The music is a reconstruction of the original release score. This was the first silent film to have a live orchestra perform along with it, so that is important. The commentaries are informative and put the film into perfect context AND for once, they actually touch on the things that make this film great cinematically, beyond just the typical history of the Civil War stuff. I put on The Coward to check it out and ended up watching the whole film. Incredible image quality! Hard to believe these films are 100 years old.

In the past, I've always had to take Birth of a Nation in little chunks. I always assumed that was because of the racism, but now I realize that the uneven density shifting and swarms of scratches were pulling me out of the film. This film has been so hobbled by lackluster releases, it was hard to tell why the film is important at all. But last night I started watching and was totally engaged in the film making and melodrama. The whole package of epic battle scenes, acting, music and pacing was overwhelming. It doesn't mean that I'm going to agree with the racism, but it does mean that finally with this BFI release, I totally understand why audiences were so bowled over by this movie. It really packs an emotional wallop and the sophistication of the way the story is told visually is pure genius.

I plan to spend a day going through the film and studying the staging and cutting. There's as much in here to learn from as Chaplin's and Keaton's best.
 
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Does it have slip cover? thanks
 
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I really wish there were some official reviews or screenshots out.
 
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Does it have slip cover? thanks
I bought it on release and it came with a slip cover.
 
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Just watched this last night and the restoration is absolutely gorgeous.
 
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Can anyone compare this with the transfer used on the 2011 US & 2013 UK Blu-Rays (if those 2 are the same)?
 
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There are screen comparisons in this thread:

http://www.nitrateville.com/viewtopi...art=90#p162471

Needless to say the BFI blows the old transfer out of the water. It's like the BFI vs. MoC Nosferatu situation, but the other way round!
 
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There are screen comparisons in this thread:

http://www.nitrateville.com/viewtopi...art=90#p162471

Needless to say the BFI blows the old transfer out of the water. It's like the BFI vs. MoC Nosferatu situation, but the other way round!
Oh damn, I'll have to double dip then.
Interesting to see they don't even share the same color tinting (like for the same shot, one is yellow and the other green).
 
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Is it worth getting the MoC release as well for the different extras?
 
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How does the transfer compare the MoC? I'm interested for the other films included, but that's a god awful cover.
 
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How does the transfer compare the MoC? I'm interested for the other films included, but that's a god awful cover.
MoC's masters is the same than the Kino one, but is slightly darker and has been cleaned a bit more too : http://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?go=1&a...=68550&i=9&l=1
 
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The BFI one is the version to get, not the Kino or MoC.
 
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The BFI one is the version to get, not the Kino or MoC.
Gotta wait for a severe price drop before ordering though.
 
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Finally got around to watching this one. Definite improvement in visual quality.

It's been a while since I watched the Eureka release, but upon starting the feature on the BFI release I immediately noticed that the opening cast credits are now gone. This has got me curious about any other notable differences between the Photoplay restoration and the cut that Eureka/Kino accessed. Anybody have any more info?

Another thing I noticed (again, it's been a while since I viewed the Eureka disc) is that the framerate seemed to be more variable in speed. I assume this is inherent to the source or was done to compensate for the score.

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I think the BFI tries to get as close to the original roadshow presentation as possible. Griffith continued editing BoaN for months after it was released, and there are so many different cuts, it's not possible to say any one is definitive.
 
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I see.

Now, were my eyes playing tricks on me or are some chunks of the movie running below 16fps for extended periods? I also noticed (albeit at a much lower frequency) that there were moments where the framerate felt higher (possibly 24fps?). I'm still learning about silent film framerates and such.
 
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