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Old 11-13-2007, 03:22 PM   #1
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Default Please Help! Should I keep my PS3???

Hello.....new here....I love Hi Definition and have been on the fence between HD DVD and Blu-Ray. Made the jump to Blu-Ray via a PS3 (profile 1.1 upgradable?? disney backing, favorite movies....underworld series, resident evil series, etc.).

1. The Sony CEO comments make me want to return my PS3

2. Will the PS3 really become profile 1.1 compliant

3. Should I just stick with it or return everything and keep on waiting

This whole format thing sucks! Please give me some honest feedback!

Thanks!
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Old 11-13-2007, 03:24 PM   #2
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you need to return it, and get an a2 and pride and prejudice
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Old 11-13-2007, 03:27 PM   #3
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keep it for games and get a 1.1 compliant player
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Old 11-13-2007, 04:00 PM   #4
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No - keep it.

I am thinking of getting a second one this weekend for our TV downstairs. It just does so much.

I keep trying to make the argument for a standalone, but for me - the PS3 does everything I want and now its about the same price.

I already have a 60gig.
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Old 11-13-2007, 03:26 PM   #5
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Well the first obvious question is:

Are you going to use the PS3 for games? Yes? Then definitely keep it hands down.

The PS3 should be able to be updated to Profile 1.1 it's not "confirmed" yet, but there has been a lot of talk about it recently.

Blu is my format of choice, and everybody on this site is either blu-exclusive, or a dual-format supporter.

Which CEO comments are you talking about that make you want to return it?

It's an amazing system, I was considering getting rid of my 60gig for an 80gig, but honestly...I love my PS3 for games, music, blu-rays (of course), upscaling older games and movies...everything, and with DivX support being added soon...it will become an even more impressive home entertainment system.
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Old 11-13-2007, 03:34 PM   #6
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1. The Sony CEO comments make me want to return my PS3

...his comments were taken out of context.
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Old 11-13-2007, 03:43 PM   #7
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...his comments were taken out of context.
Yeah, here is what he was originally referring to: http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/sh...Stalemate/1160

HD fanboys were hi-fiving themselves as though they'd already won.
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Old 11-13-2007, 03:43 PM   #8
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I wouldn't worry, the PS3 will have 1.1 compliance via a firmware update surely by early next year when some of the first 1.1 titles arrive.
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Old 11-13-2007, 04:01 PM   #9
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...his comments were taken out of context.
Where was your link supposed to send us?

Please clarify your link

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Old 11-14-2007, 03:56 AM   #10
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Where was your link supposed to send us?

Please clarify your link

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sorry, it linked to the wrong page...this is where it was suppose to go.

" Now then... we wanted to say a few words about all the recent brouhaha over Sony CEO Howard Stringer's "stalemate" comment from last week with regard to Blu-ray and HD-DVD. I don't know how many e-mails I've gotten in the last few days on this, either from HD-DVD fans eager to gloat that Stinger was clearly conceding the format war, or Blu-ray fans wondering why Stringer was being so pessimistic. As it turns out, he wasn't. I've done a little digging over the weekend, and have managed to obtain a transcript of his actual comments. Remember how last week, during Blu-ray fest, Warner Home Video's Dan Silverberg's comments were taken out of context by supporters of both high-def camps to suggest that Warner was about to chose sides in the format war? Except that's not what he actually said or meant to imply? This is the same sort of thing... yet another case of much ado about nothing.

The deal is this: Howard Stringer was being interviewed by Business Week's Steven J. Adler about his career at the 92nd Street Y in NYC on Thursday. He was asked a few questions about Blu-ray Disc and the format war, and he spoke about it for maybe 5 minutes out of a 90 minute interview. Here's the actual text of the relevant portion of the interview:

---begin excerpt---

Adler: Of course, one of the big fights right now is Blu-ray vs. HD-DVD for the high definition video market. I mean, the first and most obvious question is: Shouldn't there just be one format? Why should people have to choose between the two? And is there any possibility that we'll be heading there?

Stringer: I should point out that that is not part of the software battle. I mean, that's actually in some ways sort of anachronistic. We're fighting over a packaged goods hardware that will not go on forever, from a classic sense. We have a more expensive version, as Sony tends to, and Toshiba has a cheaper version, which seems to keep getting cheaper. I believe it has slowed down the progress of high definition packaged goods. Oddly, the studios kind of liked it for a while. They were able to leverage one of us against each other. But in the end, it's counterproductive. We have a sort of stalemate at the moment. As you know, they had fewer studios, but then they paid a lot of money for Paramount. So we have four studios and they have two or three studios. It's a difficult... it's a difficult fight. There was a chance to integrate it before I became CEO. This is something I inherited. And I don't know what broke down. I wish I could go back there, because I heard it was all about saving face and losing face, and all the rest of it. But it's not a battle about the digital future. That's what's so strange about it. If it doesn't work out, that doesn't say very much about where we're all going. It's just... it's a scorecard: one-nothing or something. But it doesn't mean as much as all that. PlayStation 3 will still go on playing games. It would have to have a different disk drive. And that's about it really.

Adler: So when a consumer now has to choose between the two, if they want to get into the high definition video, Wal-Mart was selling the Toshiba HD-DVD for $99 last Friday for a couple of days. Usually, it's been $199 there. I think your list price is $499 for Blu-ray. That's an enormously big difference, particularly in a slowing economy. Can you play that game with the difference being that great?

Stringer: Well... we've been selling them as fast as we're making them because the brand -- first of all, we're not the only ones selling them at that price. So is Panasonic, so is Samsung, so is Sharp. And one of the reasons it's more expensive is because it does more. The bandwidth is greater. If you just want a two-hour movie, the Toshiba version is a high definition picture. But we thought that to drive high definition into the customer's imagination, you should future-proof the disks so that you could have director's cuts, which are fairly obvious. We have six to seven hours of bandwidth available. You can have interactivity in three dimensions. We would be prepared to allow the package goods to survive much longer by making it much more innovative. But that does make the player more expensive. Now, they all come down. The race is to bring costs down. It always is in consumer electronics. So it isn't going to stay at $499.

Adler: But are you surprised by how little Toshiba can sell its unit for?

Stringer: No, because -- look, I can sell it for a dollar. I'd lose a lot of money, but if you want to go that route, it's a tough competition, and it seems to be about a lot of things, including face. So if you want to cut the price down and engage us in a price war, that's a different system. We were trying to win on the merits, which we were doing for a while until Paramount changed sides.

Adler: Microsoft seems to have an interesting role in this. They're selling add-on HD-DVD drives for the -- they're taking HD-DVD to the Xbox, and Xbox competes strongly with you. Is Microsoft kind of working in cahoots or in alliance with Toshiba on HD-DVD? Is that a competitive challenge to you?

Stringer: Only the spirits know. [laughs] Yeah... you never know with Microsoft do you? You never know. Xbox versus PS3 is sort of a subplot. What Microsoft's role is in that? I don't know. We're still selling software at a faster level than Toshiba. Obviously, we care about the software side more than the Toshiba does. It doesn't have a studio. It doesn't own a studio. So it's in our interest to -- actually the most significant thing in some ways about Blu-ray, going back to Microsoft... the Blu-ray Disc has a very high security level, which Fox in particular, but also other studios, was most excited about -- wanted to have some protection from instant ripping. So the specs that went into the Blu-ray, which were done in conjunction with many studios, had this security level. That is probably not in Microsoft's interests. The Toshiba disk is certainly far easier to rip. Whether you like that or don't like that depends on your consumer enthusiasm.

---end of excerpt---

That was the extent of it. Naturally, the one comment out of the entire 90 minutes (or even this small portion) that the AP ran with is the stalemate bit. Since then, it's been spun like crazy."
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Old 11-13-2007, 04:56 PM   #11
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Thanks.....this "full article" explains much more and makes sense. There's just so much politices going on in this.
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Old 11-13-2007, 03:46 PM   #12
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Hello.....new here....I love Hi Definition and have been on the fence between HD DVD and Blu-Ray. Made the jump to Blu-Ray via a PS3 (profile 1.1 upgradable?? disney backing, favorite movies....underworld series, resident evil series, etc.).

1. The Sony CEO comments make me want to return my PS3

2. Will the PS3 really become profile 1.1 compliant

3. Should I just stick with it or return everything and keep on waiting

This whole format thing sucks! Please give me some honest feedback!

Thanks!
SELL IT DAMN IT! I will give you $200 for it. I need a third one. It is NOT worth the headache. PLEEEEAAAAAAAAAASSSSE SELL IT TO ME. Do you have paypal? What is your email?
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Old 11-13-2007, 04:02 PM   #13
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Have no feear. Keep your PS3.
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Old 11-13-2007, 04:10 PM   #14
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IGNORE THEM! Sell it to me. Why should you be bothered with this headache. It is the holidays and it will only spoil your mood. I will give you $200 for it. Isn't your sanity worth $200?
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Old 11-13-2007, 04:15 PM   #15
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I could always use a forth one, I got the cash for you right now!
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Old 11-13-2007, 04:17 PM   #16
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if you're gonna talk like that, i think you should give up technology in general. i hear they're having a sale on obsidion spear heads at amazonjungle.com...
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Old 11-14-2007, 04:23 AM   #17
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SELL IT DAMN IT! I will give you $200 for it. I need a third one. It is NOT worth the headache. PLEEEEAAAAAAAAAASSSSE SELL IT TO ME. Do you have paypal? What is your email?
Calm down!
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Old 11-13-2007, 05:12 PM   #18
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Old 11-13-2007, 05:14 PM   #19
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Hello.....new here....I love Hi Definition and have been on the fence between HD DVD and Blu-Ray. Made the jump to Blu-Ray via a PS3 (profile 1.1 upgradable?? disney backing, favorite movies....underworld series, resident evil series, etc.).

1. The Sony CEO comments make me want to return my PS3
Not sure how this changes any of the reasons you gave for wanting a PS3 or Blu-ray ..or how it takes away from enjoying them at this point.
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2. Will the PS3 really become profile 1.1 compliant
Yes it will...and 2.0 as well.

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3. Should I just stick with it
Why not enjoy what you have in life now..could get hit by a truck tommorrow.

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return everything and keep on waiting
You can say the same for any technology. We bought a 540p/1080i Hitachi 6 years ago..we could have waited for Full HD and kept watching everything on our CRT for those six years instead.

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This whole format thing sucks!
Yes it does..and you have Toshiba and Microsoft to thank for creating it over an inferior technology with limited support. Just about everyone else in the industry was and is on board with Blu-ray...including consumers.
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Old 11-13-2007, 05:17 PM   #20
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I assure you the PS3 will be 1.1 compliant by the time 1.1 content is in stores. It's hard to imagine BD not winning at this point, but of course there's at least a reasonable chance that there could be a stalemate, in which case there will still be more and better BDs available in all liklihood.
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