Matt Damon explains Movie budgets & how lack of DVD sales changed How Movies are Lit - Blu-ray Forum

kylor · 08-07-2021, 04:36 PM

Start at 14:00 in this video.

I think he makes some good points. Your thoughts on what he said?

CreasyBear · 08-07-2021, 04:46 PM

Damon dropping the knowledge.

format916 · 08-08-2021, 03:03 AM

So movies need to make money and the internet destroyed that…groundbreaking info.

Rayjg · 08-09-2021, 01:43 AM

Is there anything the internet hasn’t destroyed?

InuYashaCrusade · 08-09-2021, 02:44 AM

But physical media is doing just fine, right guys?

JediJones77 · 08-09-2021, 03:03 AM

This gimmick of getting people to eat unpleasant foods is maybe the dumbest and most annoying trend I've seen in modern "interview" shows.

Scottie · 08-09-2021, 03:06 AM

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Originally Posted by JediJones77

This gimmick of getting people to eat unpleasant foods is maybe the dumbest and most annoying trend I've seen in modern "interview" shows.

Since when are hot wings unpleasant?

JediJones77 · 08-09-2021, 03:13 AM

What he's talking about is why Guillermo Del Toro wasn't allowed to make Hellboy 3 and we got the crappy Hellboy reboot instead. It cost $30 million less to make, and made $110 million less at the box office. It'll be a death spiral if Hollywood follows a similar path of cutting budgets, which cut the interest in the movies by even more, and then they cut budgets again, and so on.

Right now, Disney wants to lose billions on Disney+ and investors are egging them on. There won't be any logic or rationality in the marketplace while the streaming wars are going on. Most likely, when it ends, we'll get back to a situation where expensive movies are made again and they will figure out a way to make you pay for it again. Right now, the consumer is being given Christmas presents for free. It's unsustainable. Your presents are going to change to coal soon, i.e. more cheap crappy direct-to-video style movies, or you're going to have to start paying more money for good content again.

imsounoriginal · 08-09-2021, 03:13 AM

Title of this thread had me thinking he was gonna say that they're literally lighting movies differently because of how they display on streaming services versus DVDs. Didn't realize it meant "greenlit."

JediJones77 · 08-09-2021, 03:14 AM

Me too. I thought it was going to be something about how the movies have to be lighted differently because they're intended to be shown on TV. I have no idea if "lit" is some kind of new hipster term or what.

Poya · 08-09-2021, 05:50 AM

kylor · 08-09-2021, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by imsounoriginal

Title of this thread had me thinking he was gonna say that they're literally lighting movies differently because of how they display on streaming services versus DVDs. Didn't realize it meant "greenlit."

Yeah, I couldn't fit "greenlit" into the title as there is a character limit. I did the best I could.

grahams76 · 08-09-2021, 01:40 PM

Makes sense. But what about films made before video rentals/purchases, so everything pre-1980?

Rodney-2187 · 08-09-2021, 02:12 PM

What the heck is a DVD? Is that like an 8-track or something?

SleazyForWeasley · 08-09-2021, 02:38 PM

A movie that could have been made for $5 mil if he and Douglas didn't demand $15 mil between the two of them. The studio system and talent paychecks are out of f^ck!ng control. And this fallacy that studios aren't earning money from streaming is hot manure.

mwynn · 08-09-2021, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by InuYashaCrusade

But physical media is doing just fine, right guys?

The thing that sticks out to me, is the split with the exhibitors is insane. That is one of the poorest deals going today. You are paying someone to show your product, when they do nothing to promote it.

Book stores and Comic stores, buy the product at a discount, and then keep the profits.

DrWally · 08-09-2021, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by JediJones77

What he's talking about is why Guillermo Del Toro wasn't allowed to make Hellboy 3 and we got the crappy Hellboy reboot instead. It cost $30 million less to make, and made $110 million less at the box office. It'll be a death spiral if Hollywood follows a similar path of cutting budgets, which cut the interest in the movies by even more, and then they cut budgets again, and so on.

Right now, Disney wants to lose billions on Disney+ and investors are egging them on. There won't be any logic or rationality in the marketplace while the streaming wars are going on. Most likely, when it ends, we'll get back to a situation where expensive movies are made again and they will figure out a way to make you pay for it again. Right now, the consumer is being given Christmas presents for free. It's unsustainable. Your presents are going to change to coal soon, i.e. more cheap crappy direct-to-video style movies, or you're going to have to start paying more money for good content again.

Excellent post. The situation can be summed up in the phrase 'race to the bottom'.

Lee A Stewart · 08-09-2021, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Rodney-2187

What the heck is a DVD? Is that like an 8-track or something?

Rodney-2187 · 08-09-2021, 02:59 PM

The entertainment industry will be around a lot longer than I will. I'll consume it however they're making it while I'm still around.

mwynn · 08-09-2021, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Lee A Stewart

This is just another sign that your average person is only interested in if the movie plays.

Press the play button, is there a picture?
Cool lets go.

08-07-2021, 04:46 PM	#2
CreasyBear Blu-ray Count Member since:Apr 2019 Trading Score:115	Damon dropping the knowledge.

08-08-2021, 03:03 AM	#3
format916 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Mar 2011 Location:South Florida 4K collection:41 Blu-ray collection:497 DVD collection:429 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:1	So movies need to make money and the internet destroyed that…groundbreaking info.

08-09-2021, 01:43 AM	#4
Rayjg Blu-ray Champion Member since:Aug 2016	Is there anything the internet hasn’t destroyed?

08-09-2021, 02:44 AM	#5
InuYashaCrusade Blu-ray Prince Member since:Jun 2013 Blu-ray collection:- DVD collection:- Trading Score:17	But physical media is doing just fine, right guys?

08-09-2021, 03:03 AM	#6
JediJones77 Banned Member since:Mar 2010 Location:East PA Trading Score:4	This gimmick of getting people to eat unpleasant foods is maybe the dumbest and most annoying trend I've seen in modern "interview" shows.

08-09-2021, 03:13 AM	#8
JediJones77 Banned Member since:Mar 2010 Location:East PA Trading Score:4	What he's talking about is why Guillermo Del Toro wasn't allowed to make Hellboy 3 and we got the crappy Hellboy reboot instead. It cost $30 million less to make, and made $110 million less at the box office. It'll be a death spiral if Hollywood follows a similar path of cutting budgets, which cut the interest in the movies by even more, and then they cut budgets again, and so on. Right now, Disney wants to lose billions on Disney+ and investors are egging them on. There won't be any logic or rationality in the marketplace while the streaming wars are going on. Most likely, when it ends, we'll get back to a situation where expensive movies are made again and they will figure out a way to make you pay for it again. Right now, the consumer is being given Christmas presents for free. It's unsustainable. Your presents are going to change to coal soon, i.e. more cheap crappy direct-to-video style movies, or you're going to have to start paying more money for good content again.

08-09-2021, 03:13 AM	#9
imsounoriginal Blu-ray Grand Duke Top contributor Member since:Dec 2008 Location:NYC 4K collection:320 Blu-ray collection:946 DVD collection:70 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:59	Title of this thread had me thinking he was gonna say that they're literally lighting movies differently because of how they display on streaming services versus DVDs. Didn't realize it meant "greenlit."

08-09-2021, 03:14 AM	#10
JediJones77 Banned Member since:Mar 2010 Location:East PA Trading Score:4	Me too. I thought it was going to be something about how the movies have to be lighted differently because they're intended to be shown on TV. I have no idea if "lit" is some kind of new hipster term or what.

08-09-2021, 01:40 PM	#13
grahams76 Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Jun 2013 Location:Perth, Australia 4K collection:410 Blu-ray collection:2096 DVD collection:256 Digital collection:1 Trading Score:18	Makes sense. But what about films made before video rentals/purchases, so everything pre-1980?

08-09-2021, 02:12 PM	#14
Rodney-2187 Blu-ray Prince Top contributor Member since:Jan 2014 4K collection:31 Blu-ray collection:416 DVD collection:149 MA collection:716 Digital collection:366 iTunes collection:762 Prime collection:729 Trading Score:82	What the heck is a DVD? Is that like an 8-track or something?

08-09-2021, 02:38 PM	#15
SleazyForWeasley Blu-ray Guru Member since:Oct 2011 Location:330-hio 4K collection:235 Blu-ray collection:871 DVD collection:117 Digital collection:1 iTunes collection:18 Prime collection:1 Blu-ray reviews:3	A movie that could have been made for $5 mil if he and Douglas didn't demand $15 mil between the two of them. The studio system and talent paychecks are out of f^ck!ng control. And this fallacy that studios aren't earning money from streaming is hot manure.

08-09-2021, 02:59 PM	#19
Rodney-2187 Blu-ray Prince Top contributor Member since:Jan 2014 4K collection:31 Blu-ray collection:416 DVD collection:149 MA collection:716 Digital collection:366 iTunes collection:762 Prime collection:729 Trading Score:82	The entertainment industry will be around a lot longer than I will. I'll consume it however they're making it while I'm still around.

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