Let's be honest... everyone loves 'COMMANDO'. When a restoration? - Blu-ray Forum

UniSol GR77 · 06-30-2009, 06:52 PM

I've heard that the BD release of the greatest movie of all the time (joking) is flawed in terms of picture quality.
Really?
When a major restoration?
This is a smash hit.

DetroitSportsFan · 06-30-2009, 06:55 PM

The extended cut would be nice too. But I don't think Commando looks all that bad.

Another_Dude · 06-30-2009, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by UniSol GR77

I've heard that the BD release of the greatest movie of all the time (joking) is flawed in terms of picture quality.
Really?
When a major restoration?
This is a smash hit.

Its not going to happen.

The source isn't what I would call "pristine" and the sales numbers for that title likely show that a restore/reprint would only be greenlighted if government money was involved.

s2mikey · 06-30-2009, 06:55 PM

Well, its a eh-hem "great movie" in the sense that its so over the top to a point of being funny with a huge body count in the funniest ways possible, a token chick to help out Arnie, and of course Arnie in speedos right before attacking an entire island by himself. Dont for get the completely ridiculous bad guys that you know are gonna "get it" at the films end.

Hey - its all good with me... I dont own it but I rented it and had a good time with it. But, a restoration...for Commando? Ehhh... not likely.

UniSol GR77 · 06-30-2009, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Another_Dude

the sales numbers for that title

What? It was a resounding success as DVD.

steve_dave · 06-30-2009, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by UniSol GR77

What? It was a resounding success as DVD.

Sadly, it was not.

A DVD was released in 2001 that was trailer-only with a non-anamorphic letterboxed transfer.

The director's cut DVD was released in 2007. It took six years to get a 16x9 anamorphic version.

And you do understand the difference between restoration and remastering, right?

benricci · 06-30-2009, 07:39 PM

Lol. Since when do films from the 80s need a restoration? This was a big budget action movie by a major studio. The negatives have been stored safely in a vault, well protected.

It may need a new transfer, but a full restoration is completely unnecessary.

EDIT: I agree with the post above - do you understand the difference between a restoration and a re-master? You seem to always want movies to be restored, but I don't think that means what you think it means.

Teabaggins · 06-30-2009, 07:42 PM

is it me or was Bennett the most effeminately hilarious villain of all time. he dressed like one of the Village People and had child birthing hips.

standing next to Arnold made him look even worse

Beta Man · 06-30-2009, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DetroitSportsFan

The extended cut would be nice too. But I don't think Commando looks all that bad.

Agreed...... Looks far superior than my DVD, that's for sure.

UniSol GR77 · 06-30-2009, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by benricci

EDIT: I agree with the post above - do you understand the difference between a restoration and a re-master?

Okay, let's settle this once and for all. I'm not Jack Burton. I don't know everything.
So please, explain me: what's the difference?

DetroitSportsFan · 06-30-2009, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Teabaggins

is it me or was Bennett the most effeminately hilarious villain of all time. he dressed like one of the Village People and had child birthing hips.

He did have the Freddie Mercury thing going on, didn't he?

Lucy Diamond · 06-30-2009, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Teabaggins

is it me or was Bennett the most effeminately hilarious villain of all time. he dressed like one of the Village People and had child birthing hips.

standing next to Arnold made him look even worse

Damn man!!! You attacked the dudes hips!!!

benricci · 06-30-2009, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by UniSol GR77

Okay, let's settle this once and for all. I'm not Jack Burton. I don't know everything.
So please, explain me: what's the difference?

Restoration usually refers to the act of preserving decaying or damaged film stock - we're typically talking about battered film elements that have tears, scratches, color fading, burns, dirt, grime, fingerprints, frame mis-alignment, etc and other physical damages due to time, mishandling, overuse (too many prints being run off the negative) and improper storage.

The Godfather is a great example. After years of constant use of the negative elements, it was in pretty rough shape.

A re-master typically just involves making a new telecine transfer from the film's negative, interpositive or the best source available for a new home video/broadcast release. A new HD master must be created for blu-ray releases if one does not already exist, since pre-HD transfers (those created for TV, VHS, Laserdisc, etc) are not of sufficient quality.

A new master may also be created if better technology allows the studio to create a higher quality version. Many DVDs were re-issued in "re-mastered" editions a few years after their initial releases, because the technology improved.

Now of course during the re-mastering process, it's entirely possible that dirt, specks and other bits of grime might be cleaned from the elements they are working with. But I wouldn't refer to that as a restoration, just general cleanup and maintenance as part of the mastering process.

Since most major studios now take great care in storing their film negatives in vaults and other climate controlled facilities, a full-on restoration is probably overkill and unnecessary for most films of the modern era (especially those only 20 years old or younger).

Ator the Invincible · 06-30-2009, 08:19 PM

I don't need a super-spectacular re-done transfer for Commando, but I would like to at least see the director's cut (and all the DVD special features) on blu-ray. Until then, the BD still feels like a downgrade from the DVD to me, even if the PQ is better. I'm weird like that.

Sky_Captain · 06-30-2009, 08:43 PM

I'm think of starting a Commando/Predator drinking game, based around how often someone brings them up around here...

UniSol GR77 · 06-30-2009, 08:52 PM

Ben Ricci,

Finally. All clear now...

steve_dave · 06-30-2009, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by UniSol GR77

Ben Ricci,

Finally. All clear now...

The best example for unnecesary restoration is Die Another Day.

The Bond films up to Die Another Day were digitally restored by Lowry Digital Images. While Dr. No is a absoulute revelation in terms of picture quality, Die Another Day has no true descerniable difference between the original release and the new Lowry "restoration." The reason being is that Lowry did not have to do extensive work on Goldeneye, Tomorrow Never Dies, The World Is Not Enough, and Die Another Day.

riseagainst · 06-30-2009, 10:36 PM

I just want to see The Running Man get the blu-ray treatment it deserves. This is the most underrated of Schwarzenegger's movies.

Blu-Raider · 06-30-2009, 10:40 PM

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Let's be honest... everyone loves 'COMMANDO'.

You lost me at the title.

Al Bundy · 06-30-2009, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Teabaggins

is it me or was Bennett the most effeminately hilarious villain of all time. he dressed like one of the Village People and had child birthing hips.

standing next to Arnold made him look even worse

HAHAHA that chainmail was classic.

06-30-2009, 06:52 PM	#1
UniSol GR77 Banned Member since:May 2009 Location:Naples, Italy. Trading Score:1	Let's be honest... everyone loves 'COMMANDO'. When a restoration? I've heard that the BD release of the greatest movie of all the time (joking) is flawed in terms of picture quality. Really? When a major restoration? This is a smash hit.

06-30-2009, 06:55 PM	#4
s2mikey Banned Member since:Nov 2008 Location:Upstate, NY 4K collection:130 Blu-ray collection:303 Trading Score:40	Well, its a eh-hem "great movie" in the sense that its so over the top to a point of being funny with a huge body count in the funniest ways possible, a token chick to help out Arnie, and of course Arnie in speedos right before attacking an entire island by himself. Dont for get the completely ridiculous bad guys that you know are gonna "get it" at the films end. Hey - its all good with me... I dont own it but I rented it and had a good time with it. But, a restoration...for Commando? Ehhh... not likely. Last edited by s2mikey; 06-30-2009 at 07:00 PM.

06-30-2009, 07:39 PM	#7
benricci Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Sep 2008 Blu-ray reviews:1	Lol. Since when do films from the 80s need a restoration? This was a big budget action movie by a major studio. The negatives have been stored safely in a vault, well protected. It may need a new transfer, but a full restoration is completely unnecessary. EDIT: I agree with the post above - do you understand the difference between a restoration and a re-master? You seem to always want movies to be restored, but I don't think that means what you think it means. Last edited by benricci; 06-30-2009 at 08:27 PM.

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06-30-2009, 06:55 PM	#2
DetroitSportsFan Hot Deals Moderator Top contributor Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Michigan 4K collection:439 Blu-ray collection:2226 Trading Score:93	The extended cut would be nice too. But I don't think Commando looks all that bad.

06-30-2009, 07:42 PM	#8
Teabaggins Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Aug 2008	is it me or was Bennett the most effeminately hilarious villain of all time. he dressed like one of the Village People and had child birthing hips. standing next to Arnold made him look even worse

06-30-2009, 08:19 PM	#14
Ator the Invincible Power Member Top contributor Member since:Oct 2008 Location:Scranton, PA, USA 4K collection:502 Blu-ray collection:6292 DVD collection:2715	I don't need a super-spectacular re-done transfer for Commando, but I would like to at least see the director's cut (and all the DVD special features) on blu-ray. Until then, the BD still feels like a downgrade from the DVD to me, even if the PQ is better. I'm weird like that.

06-30-2009, 08:43 PM	#15
Sky_Captain Blu-ray Duke Top contributor Member since:Jan 2008 4K collection:- Blu-ray collection:- Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:17	I'm think of starting a Commando/Predator drinking game, based around how often someone brings them up around here...

06-30-2009, 08:52 PM	#16
UniSol GR77 Banned Member since:May 2009 Location:Naples, Italy. Trading Score:1	Ben Ricci, Finally. All clear now...

06-30-2009, 10:36 PM	#18
riseagainst Member Member since:Oct 2008 Blu-ray reviews: 2	I just want to see The Running Man get the blu-ray treatment it deserves. This is the most underrated of Schwarzenegger's movies.

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