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Old 10-24-2019, 01:44 PM   #1
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What do you really think of this guy? It seems like he has a great reputation both as a TV and movie director, but to me all his body of work always seems so unoriginal and dull.
He always uses the same approach and film technique. In addition, he always seems to copycat directors like Spielberg, Lucas, Riddley Scott and a few others. I understand being a fan of those directors, but bluntly copying their works everytime seems excessive. At what point will you, as a director, come out of the shell and show some originality? Sorry for the rant guys.
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Old 10-24-2019, 03:08 PM   #2
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I disagree with your views on Joss Whedon.
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Old 10-24-2019, 03:10 PM   #3
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Why isn't this in the Movies subforum?
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Old 10-24-2019, 04:28 PM   #4
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I disagree with your views on Joss Whedon.
It's great you do. So you tell me that when you watch something directed by JW you never feel like watching regurgitated Aliens/Star Wars/Indiana Jones/Matrix every single time?
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Old 10-24-2019, 04:28 PM   #5
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He's a hypocrite. That is all.

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Old 10-24-2019, 04:29 PM   #6
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Why isn't this in the Movies subforum?
Sorry, wasn't sure where to post this as it's not directed at a specific movie or tv show
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Old 10-24-2019, 04:30 PM   #7
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Pretty awful director.
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Old 10-24-2019, 04:30 PM   #8
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Je's a hypocrite. That is all.
What's sad to me is that so many potentially great projects are handed over to this guy and he somehow manages to make them all look the same
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Pretty awful director.
He single handedly managed to even ruin DC's Justice League future on the big screen. Just see what happened once the project passed from Snyder's hands to his. I can only imagine the disappointment Ben Affleck felt when he realized what new direction the project was going to take!
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Old 10-24-2019, 04:43 PM   #10
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I'm neutral on his movies but I love most of his TV work. My problem isn't Whedon himself but all of the far less talented hack sjw writers that try to copy his style of snarky dialog. It's kind of like how in the 90's there was a ton of independent crime films coming out that featured characters that all talked like they stepped out of a poor man's Pulp Fiction or Reservoir Dogs.
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Old 10-24-2019, 04:47 PM   #11
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It's great you do. So you tell me that when you watch something directed by JW you never feel like watching regurgitated Aliens/Star Wars/Indiana Jones/Matrix every single time?
Sounds like you’re forcing your opinion onto his when he already said he disagrees with you.
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Old 10-24-2019, 04:50 PM   #12
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He single handedly managed to even ruin DC's Justice League future on the big screen. Just see what happened once the project passed from Snyder's hands to his. I can only imagine the disappointment Ben Affleck felt when he realized what new direction the project was going to take!
But Justice League rocked...
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This is essentially a Joss Whedon hate thread where the OP argues everyone else’s opinions that are different than their’s in convincing them that Whedon is a hack.

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Old 10-24-2019, 05:01 PM   #14
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It's great you do. So you tell me that when you watch something directed by JW you never feel like watching regurgitated Aliens/Star Wars/Indiana Jones/Matrix every single time?
Yeah, I see all of those in Much Ado About Nothing! I’m usually against changing Shakespeare but throw in all the aliens!
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Old 10-24-2019, 05:02 PM   #15
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I don't mind Whedon. Probably a better writer than director but the hate against him (as an artist) is overblown.
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He’s 4 for 4 as a movie director for me. Age of Ultron is his weakest film, as well as the weakest Avengers movie, but it’s still fun.

I also enjoyed Justice League enough if you want to mention that, but I view that as ultimately Snyder’s movie, not his (since Snyder is the sole credited director, and also hard to see how much Whedon could really do shooting about 20% of the movie, with sometimes even being just bits and pieces rather than whole scenes). His screenwriting credits are a bit more mixed, but Toy Story 1 (where I hear his rewrite is what really brought the film together) is an all time classic and the best thing he’s ever done.
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Ugh, I'm one of the weirdos that LOVES Age of Ultron. That movie alone gets Whedon a lot of cachet IMO.
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I hate the thing he does where characters bicker like old couples, it's annoying

as for his work, I enjoy 'some' of Buffy and Firefly, the first Avengers is decent, but boring, and the second is just bland and unnecessary
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He single handedly managed to even ruin DC's Justice League future on the big screen. Just see what happened once the project passed from Snyder's hands to his. I can only imagine the disappointment Ben Affleck felt when he realized what new direction the project was going to take!
to be fair, WB is the one to blame for this
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I really like Whedon's work as a writer (The Avengers, Age of Ultron, Buffy, Angel, Doll House). The writing tends to be deep with a heavy focus on long term character development.

As for directing, he's fine. I don't have any criticisms. The notion that he is just a copycat doesn't bother me; many great directors have taken from others. I think he is a good director. I really like his work on The Avengers and Much Ado About Nothing. So I don't really get why there would be much criticism on that front.
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