Fear and Desire 4K UHD (1952)

[sonicyogurt]

[dallywhitty]

Cool that the shorts are being included in 4K, even if I doubt I'd watch them again, lmao.

[Filmmaker]

[kristoffer]

I need to watch this.

[En Ex]

will it include both cuts of Day of the Fight?

[Filmmaker]

Originally Posted by En Ex

will it include both cuts of Day of the Fight?

Gift horse. Let’s stay away from its mouth.

[By_His_Strypes]

Is this the movie Stanley tried to get destroyed so it could/would never be seen again? I don't think he liked this one very much.

[Dak017]

Originally Posted by By_His_Strypes

Is this the movie Stanley tried to get destroyed so it could/would never be seen again? I don't think he liked this one very much.

Yep. I saw a Q&A with Leon Vitali in 2018 where someone asked if this story was true. He said he once found a 35mm Print of Fear and Desire in Kubrick's collection and when he asked about it, Kubrick made him promise to never watch it. Leon said Kubrick really and truly hated this film more than any. Leon still had not seen it and most likely never did.

[sidetracked1]

Originally Posted by By_His_Strypes

Is this the movie Stanley tried to get destroyed so it could/would never be seen again? I don't think he liked this one very much.

When I was a high-school kid in NYC, I worked as an intern in the Museum of Modern Art's film archives after school, filing away articles, reviews and think pieces on films from all over the world (they were just starting to convert to microfilm - computers were still years away).

They knew I was a huge Kubrick fan, so my reward for working there free was a screening of a secret print they had stashed away - but only after I swore to absolute secrecy.

(I assume now - 45+ years later - I will not be getting anyone in trouble.)

[KubrickKurasawa]

Kino Lorber is smart.

[By_His_Strypes]

Originally Posted by sidetracked1

When I was a high-school kid in NYC, I worked as an intern in the Museum of Modern Art's film archives after school, filing away articles, reviews and think pieces on films from all over the world (they were just starting to convert to microfilm - computers were still years away).

They knew I was a huge Kubrick fan, so my reward for working there free was a screening of a secret print they had stashed away - but only after I swore to absolute secrecy.

(I assume now - 45+ years later - I will not be getting anyone in trouble.)

Thanks for sharing that story. I am conflicted on seeing this. Kubrick is my favorite all-time director and as everyone knows there are not a ton of movies. But, what we have is pretty special. So, now here we have a movie I've never seen, but one I know the director doesn't want me to see. So what is one to do?

[RevolverOcelScott]

I feel like I'm probably going to get this out of completionist sake, but it is Kubrick's worst movie and I can see why he disliked it as well.

[postmodel]

Originally Posted by sidetracked1

When I was a high-school kid in NYC, I worked as an intern in the Museum of Modern Art's film archives after school, filing away articles, reviews and think pieces on films from all over the world (they were just starting to convert to microfilm - computers were still years away).

They knew I was a huge Kubrick fan, so my reward for working there free was a screening of a secret print they had stashed away - but only after I swore to absolute secrecy.

(I assume now - 45+ years later - I will not be getting anyone in trouble.)

[Filmmaker]

Originally Posted by By_His_Strypes

Thanks for sharing that story. I am conflicted on seeing this. Kubrick is my favorite all-time director and as everyone knows there are not a ton of movies. But, what we have is pretty special. So, now here we have a movie I've never seen, but one I know the director doesn't want me to see. So what is one to do?

You see it. He’s dead. He no longer cares.

[Gacivory]

Originally Posted by Filmmaker

You see it. He’s dead. He no longer cares.

Kubrick’s ghost will haunt you if you watch it!

[By_His_Strypes]

I don't know if it's as cut and dry as that... at least not for me.

[Filmmaker]

Originally Posted by Gacivory

Kubrick’s ghost will haunt you if you watch it!

Stanley Boobrick.

[Gacivory]

Originally Posted by Filmmaker

Stanley Boobrick.

Stanley BooBrick is giving me more of an Elvira joke than a ghost Kubrick.

[Filmmaker]

Originally Posted by Gacivory

Stanley BooBrick is giving me more of an Elvira joke than a ghost Kubrick.

[sidetracked1]

Originally Posted by By_His_Strypes

Thanks for sharing that story. I am conflicted on seeing this. Kubrick is my favorite all-time director and as everyone knows there are not a ton of movies. But, what we have is pretty special. So, now here we have a movie I've never seen, but one I know the director doesn't want me to see. So what is one to do?

Especially after an artist is gone, seeing an early work that illuminates their path to later greatness doesn't feel like a betrayal to me. It's not like the film expressed something morally horrible Kubrick wanted to distance himself from.

It's just the first full-length work of a very young person with lots of rough edges moments of eye-rolling pretentiousness. But it also has some terrific images, and is loaded with thematic ideas Kubrick would return to with greater maturity later.

Also, I've never heard that Kubrick's estate or those close to him fought this being released in recent years, which implies to me his desire to hide it was stronger when he was a younger man. For example, I believe the George Eastman house publicly screened a print they had a couple of times while Kubrick was still alive in the 1990s, and I don't remember hearing about any push back from Kubrick or those around him.

To me, making changes to an artist's work over their objections seems like a far bigger betrayal than simply letting a work the artist has wanted hidden see the light of day.

But maybe I'm just justifying the fact I've gotten a ton from work artists have kept under wraps - from 'Fear and Desire' to bootleg recordings of Beatles demos and rehearsals, etc. etc.