CANDYMAN (1992) Unrated - Blu-ray Forum

turbine · 10-09-2017, 10:18 AM

Hi there,

Turbine is the new licensee for CANDYMAN for Germany/Austria/Switzerland. We're planning to make this the first unrated release (the only unrated release so far was the German VHS).

Good news first: The last release was featuring a German VoD master with original text blurred and new (German) text superimposed. We've already fixed this and acquired the proper int'l master. Nice side effect: It's a few generations fresher than the current release as well (less grain, defects).

The films past is a little bit troubled, being a Polygram Filmed Entertainment title. Originally licensed to Sony for 25 for distribution it's now come back to Universal. This means the material situation is a little bit special as the only unrated source was a German VHS master produced by a company that no longer has the rights.

We've already enquired with Sony, but this might take some time and we've got no idea if a) the print was archived or b) the VHS master (open matte, full frame, SD only) was archived.

So before we continue and, worst case, only have the unrated shots (just a handful, but hey... still unrated) as a bonus section...

Does someone know of a source for such unrated version? Maybe it's been screened at some festival? Maybe some fan owns a 35mm print?

Again, we're also checking labs and vaults, but it can't hurt so say what we're after so please spread the word.

Thanks!

EvilJames · 10-12-2017, 04:30 PM

I believe a UK theatrical print (which would have been uncut) played at the BFI Southbank here in London recently. I didn't see it but apparently it was in a very good condition. I would consider asking Park Circus where the BFI got the print from, as it's not one from the BFI Archive. Good luck!

Dubstar · 10-14-2017, 07:25 PM

I've never understood how a movie that has a problem with international film censorship boards and the U.S. MPAA cut the offending bits - do they clip and destroy the original negatives and chuck the footage into the bins never to be seen again?? Why not create a master 'preapproved uncensored' print

Geoff D · 10-14-2017, 07:36 PM

That is the question, sir. It's nice to think of every studio and distributor as treating their product like gold but that's just it: it's product, a piece of mere ephemera, not something that should be preserved for the ages. Shit happens.

jusmu · 10-21-2017, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by turbine

Hi there,

Turbine is the new licensee for CANDYMAN for Germany/Austria/Switzerland. We're planning to make this the first unrated release (the only unrated release so far was the German VHS).

Good news first: The last release was featuring a German VoD master with original text blurred and new (German) text superimposed. We've already fixed this and acquired the proper int'l master. Nice side effect: It's a few generations fresher than the current release as well (less grain, defects).

The films past is a little bit troubled, being a Polygram Filmed Entertainment title. Originally licensed to Sony for 25 for distribution it's now come back to Universal. This means the material situation is a little bit special as the only unrated source was a German VHS master produced by a company that no longer has the rights.

We've already enquired with Sony, but this might take some time and we've got no idea if a) the print was archived or b) the VHS master (open matte, full frame, SD only) was archived.

So before we continue and, worst case, only have the unrated shots (just a handful, but hey... still unrated) as a bonus section...

Does someone know of a source for such unrated version? Maybe it's been screened at some festival? Maybe some fan owns a 35mm print?

Again, we're also checking labs and vaults, but it can't hurt so say what we're after so please spread the word.

Thanks!

If/when you get the print, couple of tips: don`t dub it and don´t put forced German subtitles.
Thank you!

MrKolo · 12-24-2017, 12:46 PM

housing project ��

SymbioticFunction · 12-26-2017, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by MrKolo

housing project ��

lilboyblu · 01-03-2018, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by MrKolo

housing project ��

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Originally Posted by SymbioticFunction

Candyman takes place in the formerly notorious Chicago housing project, Cabrini Green. A Target store now sits on that very spot.

jimidini · 01-07-2018, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by turbine

only have the unrated shots (just a handful, but hey... still unrated) as a bonus section...

Couldn't you use seamless branching?
Yes, the unrated shots may be crap quality-wise, but that would make it possible to watch the movie unrated and also watch it without those additional shots too.

Also: please acquire the rights of Nightmare on Elm Street 1 and release an unrated cut as well. Yes, it may be 1 or 2 seconds, but some would surely care

Quote:

Originally Posted by jusmu

If/when you get the print, couple of tips: don`t dub it and don´t put forced German subtitles.
Thank you!

I think Turbine has never released anything with forced subtitles, but I may be wrong.

SymbioticFunction · 01-11-2018, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by lilboyblu

Candyman takes place in the formerly notorious Chicago housing project, Cabrini Green.

Yeah everyone knew that.

Doesn't do much to explain the random two word post though.

SymbioticFunction · 01-11-2018, 01:07 AM

hook

SymbioticFunction · 01-11-2018, 01:08 AM

bees

dallywhitty · 01-11-2018, 01:12 AM

toilet

javy · 01-11-2018, 01:39 AM

Tony.

P-Rock · 03-13-2018, 03:17 AM

Biggie Smalls.

EvaUnit02 · 08-31-2021, 02:38 PM

Turbine put out an "Unrated" release in Oct 2020 for the German market. It has a 5.1 track, like the 2018 remaster on the US Shout Factory and UK Arrow releases, so I assume it's made from the same master. I'm making a gamble and ordered it, hoping that the Unrated cut has a 5.1 track (It has one on the Shout Factory release, but not the Arrow one).

https://www.amazon.de/-/en/Virginia-...dp/B08H6RTZCN/

Mister Bagel · 08-31-2021, 03:22 PM

I actually really like that cover art. Incorporates Chicago which feels very much like a character in the film.

EvaUnit02 · 11-07-2021, 12:14 AM

I watched the disc, seems to be have the US R-rated cut.
https://www.movie-censorship.com/?ID=1900
The Columbia Tristar was present in the print. There were more shots of Helen's face reacting during the therapist kill scene.

Oh well. The difference between the two cuts is so minor that I don't feel like double-dipping with the US Scream Factory release.

In good news the 5.1 track is present and the print looked nicely detailed. So they highly likely sourced the transfer from the 2018 4k remaster.

10-09-2017, 10:18 AM	#1
turbine Active Member Member since:Jun 2016	CANDYMAN (1992) Unrated Hi there, Turbine is the new licensee for CANDYMAN for Germany/Austria/Switzerland. We're planning to make this the first unrated release (the only unrated release so far was the German VHS). Good news first: The last release was featuring a German VoD master with original text blurred and new (German) text superimposed. We've already fixed this and acquired the proper int'l master. Nice side effect: It's a few generations fresher than the current release as well (less grain, defects). The films past is a little bit troubled, being a Polygram Filmed Entertainment title. Originally licensed to Sony for 25 for distribution it's now come back to Universal. This means the material situation is a little bit special as the only unrated source was a German VHS master produced by a company that no longer has the rights. We've already enquired with Sony, but this might take some time and we've got no idea if a) the print was archived or b) the VHS master (open matte, full frame, SD only) was archived. So before we continue and, worst case, only have the unrated shots (just a handful, but hey... still unrated) as a bonus section... Does someone know of a source for such unrated version? Maybe it's been screened at some festival? Maybe some fan owns a 35mm print? Again, we're also checking labs and vaults, but it can't hurt so say what we're after so please spread the word. Thanks!

10-12-2017, 04:30 PM	#2
EvilJames Active Member Member since:Aug 2013 Blu-ray collection:64	I believe a UK theatrical print (which would have been uncut) played at the BFI Southbank here in London recently. I didn't see it but apparently it was in a very good condition. I would consider asking Park Circus where the BFI got the print from, as it's not one from the BFI Archive. Good luck!

10-14-2017, 07:25 PM	#3
Dubstar Blu-ray Prince Top contributor Member since:Jun 2008 Location:down at Fraggle Rock Home Theater Gallery:1 4K collection:201 Blu-ray collection:1953 DVD collection:304 MA collection:4 Digital collection:33 Trading Score:29	I've never understood how a movie that has a problem with international film censorship boards and the U.S. MPAA cut the offending bits - do they clip and destroy the original negatives and chuck the footage into the bins never to be seen again?? Why not create a master 'preapproved uncensored' print

10-14-2017, 07:36 PM	#4
Geoff D Blu-ray Emperor Top contributor Member since:Feb 2009 Location:Swanage, Engerland 4K collection:1348 Blu-ray collection:2525 Blu-ray reviews: 6 Trading Score:33	That is the question, sir. It's nice to think of every studio and distributor as treating their product like gold but that's just it: it's product, a piece of mere ephemera, not something that should be preserved for the ages. Shit happens.

12-24-2017, 12:46 PM	#6
MrKolo New Member Member since:Dec 2017 Location:Mountoun View	housing project ��

01-11-2018, 01:07 AM	#11
SymbioticFunction Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Oct 2009 Location:Chichester, UK 4K collection:153 Blu-ray collection:987 DVD collection:121 Prime collection:2 Blu-ray reviews:2	hook

01-11-2018, 01:08 AM	#12
SymbioticFunction Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Oct 2009 Location:Chichester, UK 4K collection:153 Blu-ray collection:987 DVD collection:121 Prime collection:2 Blu-ray reviews:2	bees

01-11-2018, 01:12 AM	#13
dallywhitty Blu-ray Grand Duke Top contributor Member since:Aug 2009 Location:Temple of Isis 4K collection:319 Blu-ray collection:1679 DVD collection:178	toilet

01-11-2018, 01:39 AM	#14
javy Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Mar 2015 Location:Synecdoche, New York 4K collection:94 Blu-ray collection:2667 DVD collection:120 Trading Score:78	Tony.

03-13-2018, 03:17 AM	#15
P-Rock Banned Member since:Apr 2015 Blu-ray reviews:3	Biggie Smalls.

08-31-2021, 02:38 PM	#16
EvaUnit02 Member Member since:May 2018	Turbine put out an "Unrated" release in Oct 2020 for the German market. It has a 5.1 track, like the 2018 remaster on the US Shout Factory and UK Arrow releases, so I assume it's made from the same master. I'm making a gamble and ordered it, hoping that the Unrated cut has a 5.1 track (It has one on the Shout Factory release, but not the Arrow one). https://www.amazon.de/-/en/Virginia-...dp/B08H6RTZCN/

08-31-2021, 03:22 PM	#17
Mister Bagel Member Member since:Jun 2021	I actually really like that cover art. Incorporates Chicago which feels very much like a character in the film.

11-07-2021, 12:14 AM	#18
EvaUnit02 Member Member since:May 2018	I watched the disc, seems to be have the US R-rated cut. https://www.movie-censorship.com/?ID=1900 The Columbia Tristar was present in the print. There were more shots of Helen's face reacting during the therapist kill scene. Oh well. The difference between the two cuts is so minor that I don't feel like double-dipping with the US Scream Factory release. In good news the 5.1 track is present and the print looked nicely detailed. So they highly likely sourced the transfer from the 2018 4k remaster.

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