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Old 01-02-2008, 04:01 PM   #1
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Warner hasn't had problems with doing both hd-dvd and Blu-ray for all this time, like they have had recently. With putting hd-dvd discs in Blu-ray box sets and other things, I wonder if it wasn't intentional.

Maybe they are manufacturing evidence for why they have to drop hd-dvd. It is just getting too confusing managing three formats (DVD, hd-dvd, and Blu-ray) etc etc etc.
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Old 01-02-2008, 04:04 PM   #2
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Seems like a stretch.
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Old 01-02-2008, 04:08 PM   #3
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Warner hasn't had problems with doing both hd-dvd and Blu-ray for all this time, like they have had recently. With putting hd-dvd discs in Blu-ray box sets and other things, I wonder if it wasn't intentional.

Maybe they are manufacturing evidence for why they have to drop hd-dvd. It is just getting too confusing managing three formats (DVD, hd-dvd, and Blu-ray) etc etc etc.
Very imaginative, but agreed that it is a bit of a stretch. I think it's just their manufacturing assembly line messing up drastically. When they do choose a side, they should tell us a good reason--something about the fact of "The side we chose just sold more copies for us."
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Old 01-02-2008, 04:19 PM   #4
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Warner hasn't had problems with doing both hd-dvd and Blu-ray for all this time, like they have had recently. With putting hd-dvd discs in Blu-ray box sets and other things, I wonder if it wasn't intentional.

Maybe they are manufacturing evidence for why they have to drop hd-dvd. It is just getting too confusing managing three formats (DVD, hd-dvd, and Blu-ray) etc etc etc.
I have commented on this before, and I do believe that your speculation is correct! There are a number of factors that could have contributed to the disc errors. However the timing and motivations behind the erros are suspicious.
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Old 01-02-2008, 04:24 PM   #5
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Even though I doubt that's the reason, I think it is suspicious that all these errors happen right before CES...
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Old 01-02-2008, 04:33 PM   #6
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I agree it's suspicious that three things happened with Blu-ray releases right before CES. Especially obvious ones like an HD DVD disc in a Blu-ray box set. How does that happen only on some units and only with one disc?

But to say that it was done intentionally makes less sense because now Warner has to issue replacements and set up replacement programs. I'm sure that's costing them a lot of extra money to do and no company is purposely going to cause a disaster which eats into their profits.
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Old 01-02-2008, 04:37 PM   #7
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Man they screwed DVD big time with SuperMan 14 disc set, so does that mean the return of the mighty VHS?. Warner is the king of errors this year all format
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Old 01-02-2008, 04:37 PM   #8
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Even though Im Blu all the way, I think differently. I think that maybe they are scerewing us over with all these errors. Maybe an excuse to say... We have too much trouble with BD and were going with HD.... I would hate this to happen but thats just what it looks like to me. Come one, sending Hd in BD boxes and I heard from another post that they are doing things to boost HD sales so they have an excuse(a sorry one) to go with HD. I will support BD even if they flip but I would hate to see this happen
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Old 01-02-2008, 04:39 PM   #9
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Well Bill Hunt over at Digtial Bits did say that was one of many reasons why you'd only want one format. Then you wouldn't have manufact/packaging errors.

Was it done intentionally? that would be pretty funny if it was.
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Old 01-02-2008, 04:40 PM   #10
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I doubt it.
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Old 01-02-2008, 04:43 PM   #11
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Well Bill Hunt over at Digtial Bits did say that was one of many reasons why you'd only want one format. Then you wouldn't have manufact/packaging errors.

Was it done intentionally? that would be pretty funny if it was.
I think it's a stretch. Although, if Heinz can manage 57 varieties, you'd think Warner could handle 3.
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Old 01-02-2008, 04:48 PM   #12
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I think it's a stretch. Although, if Heinz can manage 57 varieties, you'd think Warner could handle 3.
They say they have 57 varieties, but you really only see the basic ketchup. Name 5 of the remaining 56.
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Old 01-02-2008, 04:50 PM   #13
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They say they have 57 varieties, but you really only see the basic ketchup. Name 5 of the remaining 56.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinz_57

Apparently they have over 1,100 current products. Who knew?
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Old 01-02-2008, 04:51 PM   #14
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Warner has definitely screwed things up for a lot of Blu fans , not a good sign, but intentionally probably not, but if so then its definitely not funny.
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Old 01-02-2008, 04:53 PM   #15
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Do they intentionally have shitty customer service too?
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Old 01-02-2008, 04:55 PM   #16
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Nah, I don't think there is anything to read into this one either, they obviously are having a lot of internal problems with distribution and delivery, not to mention packaging. Confusion, all the more reason to do away with the dual-formats and go to BD.
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Old 01-02-2008, 04:56 PM   #17
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Warner hasn't had problems with doing both hd-dvd and Blu-ray for all this time, like they have had recently. With putting hd-dvd discs in Blu-ray box sets and other things, I wonder if it wasn't intentional.

Maybe they are manufacturing evidence for why they have to drop hd-dvd. It is just getting too confusing managing three formats (DVD, hd-dvd, and Blu-ray) etc etc etc.
mistakes/accidents do happen and i am sure that their system is the problem and i am sure that they will fix this mistake.
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Old 01-02-2008, 04:59 PM   #18
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This is quite possibly one of the dumbest ideas I've ever heard. What kind of company would deliberately trash it's reputation with its customers, create an expensive exchange program, etc., just to provide an "excuse" for a business decision? Why do they need an excuse? "We're going Blu-ray exclusive because of consistently better software sales" is all they need to say.
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Old 01-02-2008, 05:06 PM   #19
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Having lots of trouble making Blu Rays is a pretty lame excuse for dumping HD DUD. They have far to many actual REAL and very compelling reasons to dump HD DUD.

50GB>30GB
More Bandwidth>Less Bandwidth
More Studios>Less Studios
More Players Sold (3 Million)>Less Players Sold (800,000)
More Hardware vendors (Most every CE maker)>Single Hardware Vendor
Scratch Protection Layer>No Scratch Protection Layer
Region Coding>No Region Coding (RC gives Studios like WB control they want.)
More disc sold (65%)> Less discs Sold (35%)


Man, think of any way to compare the 2 formats and DUD is clearly the loser. Why there are still people foolish enough to believe in it is simply beyond my comprehension.

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Having lots of trouble making Blu Rays is a pretty lame excuse for dumping HD DUD. They have far to many actual REAL and very compelling reasons to dump HD DUD.

50GB>30GB
More Bandwidth>Less Bandwidth
More Studios>Less Studios
More Players Sold (3 Million)>Less Players Sold (800,000)
More Hardware vendors (Most every CE maker)>Single Hardware Vendor
Scratch Protection Layer>No Scratch Protection Layer
Region Coding>No Region Coding (RC gives Studios like WB control they want.)
More disc sold (65%)> Less discs Sold (35%)


Man, think of any way to compare the 2 formats and DUD is clearly the loser. Why there are still people foolish enough to believe in it is simply beyond my comprehension.

-Brian
I think that sum's it up
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