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Old 01-05-2008, 12:05 AM   #1
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Well, I couldn't help myself. I posted this over on AVS Forums, it only lasted about 10 seconds before being nuked from orbit.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...9#post12686069

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Warner dropping HD-DVD? Here's a solution!

Warner dropping hd-dvd and going blu-ray exclusive is a tragic loss for hd-dvd. But there is a solution to this problem. Has anyone seen Be Kind, Rewind? Its a new Jack Black movie, where two video store clerks destroy their inventory of vhs tapes by accident and end up having to remake classic movies using a camcorder and their own acting.

This is what you hd-dvd guys can do. Join together, buy a camcorder (probably need an HD one), remake the movies Warner releases only on blu-ray, and then distribute them on the internet or sell them on recordable hd-dvd discs. I bet rdjam could do a great Will Smith for I Am Legend, and Amir can do Dumbledore for the new Harry Potter. I heard he's looking for work anyway.

Problem solved. Buwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
Well, I thought it was pretty good. Any other good gloat attempts you'd like to share? Freedom of speech people! We can have a little childish fun here, can't we?
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Old 01-05-2008, 12:35 AM   #2
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I will post my AVS Red Burns tomorrow as they were deleted and I do not have access to my PM box where I received my infractions and was banned (until tomorrow).
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Old 01-05-2008, 12:40 AM   #3
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Your plan fails because there's no viable HD DVD burner.

Oh, wait.
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Old 01-05-2008, 12:45 AM   #4
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On one forum I just reminded them that *their* gloating predictions of the Venturer player dropping to $98 retail by January actually will come true. Other than that, I don't think I'll gloat anywhere, I'll just use my time to watch all these newly purchased Blu-rays listed in my signature.
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Old 01-05-2008, 01:00 AM   #5
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I think it's better just to welcome all the hd-dvd people into the blu ray fold. Forgive our prodigal sons.
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Old 01-05-2008, 01:02 AM   #6
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I just giggled like a silly little school girl.
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Old 01-05-2008, 01:02 AM   #7
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On one forum I just reminded them that *their* gloating predictions of the Venturer player dropping to $98 retail by January actually will come true. Other than that, I don't think I'll gloat anywhere, I'll just use my time to watch all these newly purchased Blu-rays listed in my signature.
Cruel, but funny.
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Old 01-05-2008, 01:03 AM   #8
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Do you know how many of you guys got mad at me when I gloated on AVS about Denon going bluray only. Although I love to see you guys do it, I got a new A-hole ripped over it.
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Old 01-05-2008, 01:12 AM   #9
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I think it's better just to welcome all the hd-dvd people into the blu ray fold. Forgive our prodigal sons.
Interesting: It puts a unique perspective on the North's feeling toward the South after the Civil War was over, and why Gen. Seward had such suspicious hostilities against Lincoln for pursuing a peaceful Reconstruction...

We studied that in high school, but you just can't understand how hard it is to forgive the idiots in any conflict who started the whole darn thing--
Toshiba could have quit at any time, and not that they didn't try to.
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Old 01-05-2008, 01:14 AM   #10
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I gloated on my own site: http://www.klipschcorner.com/BlogDet...a-8382175c22c3

"Nearly a year ago, on my personal blog, I wrote that I thought Blu-Ray was looking good. As a perfection-seeking home theater enthusiast, the future of packaged High Defintion media is something that I felt concerned me and the industry closely. I wrote that Blu-Ray was better technology because more storage space + higher maximum bitrates for audio+video ultimately meant a better home theater experience. I also wrote that I felt Blu-Ray actually had a chance to win in the marketplace and I spelled out why.

Today, Warner announced that they would be dropping HD-DVD support to be Blu-Ray exclusive. As one of the most successful studios in current day terms, with some of the most successful catalog titles from the past ten years, this is a pretty big blow to HD-DVD. Looking back at sales numbers, all of the highest selling HD-DVD titles have come from Warner with the notable exception of Transformers. The Matrix, Batman Begins, 300, Harry Potter, V for Vendetta; these have been the big sellers and they are Warner titles. Warner owns New Line who will surely follow suit and have said as much in the past. This means that the LOTR movies will be Blu-Ray exclusive.

Some Blu-Ray fanboys have claimed that this is essentially the end of the format war. As a fellow BD Fanboy I am inclined to agree. Some HD-DVD fanboys have said that HD packaged media will just be a small niche product and suffer the fate of DVD-Audio vs. SACD. I am inclined to disagree. Some extremely rabid fanboys have said they are now going back to upconverted DVDs or waiting for HD downloads, refusing to join their hated Blu enemy.

This last position is hardest to understand on a number of levels. Ten years ago, if you had told me the unwashed masses would be siding with Microsoft and calling Sony the big bad company they couldn't support on priciple, I would have laughed in your face. I half expect Apple to be the next "big bad out of fashion ugly corporate face" next. Anyway, to get the kind of audio and video quality of say, Pirates of the Carribean on Blu-Ray today, it would take most people 3-5 days to finish the download. I really think we are several years out before even the most cutting edge households have this kind of bandwidth, let alone average movie watching folks. I personally own several movies on DVD and Blu-Ray. Doing back-to-back comparisons of upconverted Pirates of the Carribean, Black Hawk Down, Bram Stoker's Dracula, against their native 1080p counterparts, I cannot fathom anyone choosing upconverted DVD over true high definition source material. It should be noted that while color gradients and resolution can be extrapolated to produce an image that is better than the data on disc, I know of no sound upconversion. Sound is half of the movie experience. This notion of never getting into Blu-Ray due purely to Sour Grapes seems both immature and telling. Had Warner gone the other way, I would have been stopping by Best Buy on the way home to see if the high end 1080p Toshiba HD-DVD players were in stock, and I would have picked up some Universal published guilty pleasures (Pitch Black, Chronicles of Riddick) to go with it. Sure, I would have been upset that my analysis was incorrect, but I like high definition audio and sound, so I would have to go with the best format with the best chance of succeeding in the marketplace.

I have a feeling Warner's decision will cause the entire High Definition Packaged Media pie to grow in size. Will Blu-Ray succeed DVD? I don't know, I hope so. Either way I'll be enjoying 1080p video and uncompressed LPCM audio for some time to come, and if you pick up a Blu-Ray player so can you."
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Old 01-05-2008, 01:17 AM   #11
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As in the Harry Potter books, it is much easier to forgive and get on with it when you're right rather than wrong.
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Old 01-05-2008, 01:18 AM   #12
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I gloated on my own site: http://www.klipschcorner.com/BlogDet...a-8382175c22c3

"Nearly a year ago, on my personal blog, I wrote that I thought Blu-Ray was looking good. As a perfection-seeking home theater enthusiast, the future of packaged High Defintion media is something that I felt concerned me and the industry closely. I wrote that Blu-Ray was better technology because more storage space + higher maximum bitrates for audio+video ultimately meant a better home theater experience. I also wrote that I felt Blu-Ray actually had a chance to win in the marketplace and I spelled out why.

Today, Warner announced that they would be dropping HD-DVD support to be Blu-Ray exclusive. As one of the most successful studios in current day terms, with some of the most successful catalog titles from the past ten years, this is a pretty big blow to HD-DVD. Looking back at sales numbers, all of the highest selling HD-DVD titles have come from Warner with the notable exception of Transformers. The Matrix, Batman Begins, 300, Harry Potter, V for Vendetta; these have been the big sellers and they are Warner titles. Warner owns New Line who will surely follow suit and have said as much in the past. This means that the LOTR movies will be Blu-Ray exclusive.

Some Blu-Ray fanboys have claimed that this is essentially the end of the format war. As a fellow BD Fanboy I am inclined to agree. Some HD-DVD fanboys have said that HD packaged media will just be a small niche product and suffer the fate of DVD-Audio vs. SACD. I am inclined to disagree. Some extremely rabid fanboys have said they are now going back to upconverted DVDs or waiting for HD downloads, refusing to join their hated Blu enemy.

This last position is hardest to understand on a number of levels. Ten years ago, if you had told me the unwashed masses would be siding with Microsoft and calling Sony the big bad company they couldn't support on priciple, I would have laughed in your face. I half expect Apple to be the next "big bad out of fashion ugly corporate face" next. Anyway, to get the kind of audio and video quality of say, Pirates of the Carribean on Blu-Ray today, it would take most people 3-5 days to finish the download. I really think we are several years out before even the most cutting edge households have this kind of bandwidth, let alone average movie watching folks. I personally own several movies on DVD and Blu-Ray. Doing back-to-back comparisons of upconverted Pirates of the Carribean, Black Hawk Down, Bram Stoker's Dracula, against their native 1080p counterparts, I cannot fathom anyone choosing upconverted DVD over true high definition source material. It should be noted that while color gradients and resolution can be extrapolated to produce an image that is better than the data on disc, I know of no sound upconversion. Sound is half of the movie experience. This notion of never getting into Blu-Ray due purely to Sour Grapes seems both immature and telling. Had Warner gone the other way, I would have been stopping by Best Buy on the way home to see if the high end 1080p Toshiba HD-DVD players were in stock, and I would have picked up some Universal published guilty pleasures (Pitch Black, Chronicles of Riddick) to go with it. Sure, I would have been upset that my analysis was incorrect, but I like high definition audio and sound, so I would have to go with the best format with the best chance of succeeding in the marketplace.

I have a feeling Warner's decision will cause the entire High Definition Packaged Media pie to grow in size. Will Blu-Ray succeed DVD? I don't know, I hope so. Either way I'll be enjoying 1080p video and uncompressed LPCM audio for some time to come, and if you pick up a Blu-Ray player so can you."
Very well put, loved it.
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Old 01-05-2008, 01:18 AM   #13
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I made this a loooooong while ago and waited for the right moment...



I know it won't last very long at AVS...if anyone wants to get banned for the sake of a few lulz, be my guest .
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Old 01-05-2008, 01:35 AM   #14
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I did on another forum I frequent, but only because there are a couple of guys who have really battered on me for months and been real asses about it.
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Old 01-05-2008, 01:38 AM   #15
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I made this a loooooong while ago and waited for the right moment...



I know it won't last very long at AVS...if anyone wants to get banned for the sake of a few lulz, be my guest .

that sir, is awesome.
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Old 01-05-2008, 01:45 AM   #16
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Well, I couldn't help myself. I posted this over on AVS Forums, it only lasted about 10 seconds before being nuked from orbit.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...9#post12686069



Well, I thought it was pretty good. Any other good gloat attempts you'd like to share? Freedom of speech people! We can have a little childish fun here, can't we?
LOL They should make sure also that their homemade movies are downloadable cuz seems like HD DUD fanboys will rather have that than go blu lol.
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Old 01-05-2008, 02:07 AM   #17
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Michael Bay has already started the gloating, probably with a beer. But you gloat with champagne, not beer, right?

http://www.shootfortheedit.com/forum...read.php?t=842
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Old 01-05-2008, 02:12 AM   #18
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Quote from that post...

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Old 01-05-2008, 02:18 AM   #19
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No gloating for me. I missed my one good opportunity---I was ready to bet a FUDster an IP ban last night that Warner would flip before the first tl51 HD DVD hit the shelves, but I tired of the debate. Wish I'd held on a little bit later into the evening, now...

But this format war has been really detrimental to creating general acceptance for hi-def media, so I don't intend to do anything to prolong it further.

However...there's been a Civil War analogy drawn. As a resident of the state of Alabama I can testify that some folks haven't given that war up yet, so I fully expect some diehards to keep up the fight for their Lost Cause. Those folks will tempt me to be unkind. I will try to keep in mind how pathetic they will seem when they're complaining a year from now about how the PS3 ruined the world for the superior HDM format...
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Old 01-05-2008, 02:23 AM   #20
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Well, I couldn't help myself. I posted this over on AVS Forums, it only lasted about 10 seconds before being nuked from orbit.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...9#post12686069



Well, I thought it was pretty good. Any other good gloat attempts you'd like to share? Freedom of speech people! We can have a little childish fun here, can't we?
While I cant condone what you did.. it was just mean spirited... I have to say it was one of the funniest things I read since the WB announcement.

http://www.testmy.net/t-21967 <---- I gloated by posting the news on the website I VA for. Its not exactly a tiny unknown site either. Dont laugh at the comment made by one of the other mods, he REALLY is a good guy, just seems to like the HD DVD.

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