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Old 11-03-2006, 02:59 AM   #1
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guys, got a question for ya. i currently have a sony 34xbr960
http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTE...tv_size_30to42

what im curious about, on this size, will i really notice much of a picture difference between any of the players? the t.v. isn't huge so any minor differences will be pretty negligible. i'm look at picking up a refurb or cheap sammy. any ideas?
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Old 11-03-2006, 11:39 AM   #2
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Definitely. That's a good TV and you'll see the difference.
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Old 11-03-2006, 03:20 PM   #3
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I have a 36 inch Toshiba (4 years) and have only component imputs but let me tell you , you will see a night and day difference between dvd and blu ray
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Old 11-03-2006, 03:37 PM   #4
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guys, got a question for ya. i currently have a sony 34xbr960
http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTE...tv_size_30to42

what im curious about, on this size, will i really notice much of a picture difference between any of the players? the t.v. isn't huge so any minor differences will be pretty negligible. i'm look at picking up a refurb or cheap sammy. any ideas?

That's the TV I have! YES! YES! YES!

You have a professional grade monitor right there and the industry leader/standard that has yet to be beat.

Do yourself a favor, if you haven't already, and get that puppy ISF calibrated.

The Super Fine Pitch Tube gives you an extra boost on resolution. 40 percent if I recall correctly.

6-8 feet viewing distance with that thing is perfection with quality source material.

When I had HD-DVD here for six weeks the picture was drop dead amazing. OTA Network HD here is drop dead amazing. Any quality source is amazing on this thing. Many of my upconverted DVD's look "HD like" on this thing.


You can't do any better than this TV at $2000 or less...assuming you have the space for a bulky CRT that is.

That TV is arguably the best CRT tube ever made, hands down.

Great HD on this thing is literally like looking out a window. You can't do any better than this.

Glance through my thread on this subject:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=561596

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Old 11-03-2006, 08:38 PM   #5
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I have a 36 inch Toshiba (4 years) and have only component imputs but let me tell you , you will see a night and day difference between dvd and blu ray
I think what he meant was that if he would see a great difference between the different BD players so to save some money buying the cheapest if there was no great difference
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Old 11-03-2006, 11:28 PM   #6
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That's the TV I have! YES! YES! YES!

You have a professional grade monitor right there and the industry leader/standard that has yet to be beat.

Do yourself a favor, if you haven't already, and get that puppy ISF calibrated.

The Super Fine Pitch Tube gives you an extra boost on resolution. 40 percent if I recall correctly.

6-8 feet viewing distance with that thing is perfection with quality source material.

When I had HD-DVD here for six weeks the picture was drop dead amazing. OTA Network HD here is drop dead amazing. Any quality source is amazing on this thing. Many of my upconverted DVD's look "HD like" on this thing.


You can't do any better than this TV at $2000 or less...assuming you have the space for a bulky CRT that is.

That TV is arguably the best CRT tube ever made, hands down.

Great HD on this thing is literally like looking out a window. You can't do any better than this.

Glance through my thread on this subject:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=561596
jtk, thanks for the glowing review. i absolutely love it. one of the best purchases i have ever made.

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I think what he meant was that if he would see a great difference between the different BD players so to save some money buying the cheapest if there was no great difference
deciazulado, exactly right. if i can save money, why not? of course, if the difference is great, then no.
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Old 11-06-2006, 01:12 AM   #7
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jtk, thanks for the glowing review. i absolutely love it. one of the best purchases i have ever made.
I agree. I'll be keeping mine until it literally stops functioning.
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Old 11-06-2006, 05:37 AM   #8
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I agree. I'll be keeping mine until it literally stops functioning.
i noticed (today) mine is having a little bit of a color issue. it almost looks like there is a magnet close by. yes, i have speakers, but my left front channel is two and a half feet away and my center channel is shielded. so, im going to talk to my dealer this week. however, i still love the set. the picture on it is so good that at times even standard def is hi-def (looking) on it.

two of my favorite movies to watch to show off the picture is star wars episode 3 and lotr. they put a lot of hi-def channels to shame.

anyway, as to my original question. any thoughts of the player making a big difference on this display?
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Old 11-06-2006, 02:06 PM   #9
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What's your seating distance?
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Old 11-06-2006, 03:27 PM   #10
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just a hair over 6 feet. that may change since i'll be moving in the next few months, but it will most likely remain the same.
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Old 11-06-2006, 06:28 PM   #11
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blu-ray is designed for 1080p sets so anything like 34" that isn't would seam like edtv
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Old 11-06-2006, 07:08 PM   #12
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huh? what are you talking about?
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Old 11-06-2006, 07:30 PM   #13
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blu-ray is designed for 1080p sets so anything like 34" that isn't would seam like edtv
You are wrong.






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i noticed (today) mine is having a little bit of a color issue. it almost looks like there is a magnet close by. yes, i have speakers, but my left front channel is two and a half feet away and my center channel is shielded. so, im going to talk to my dealer this week. however, i still love the set. the picture on it is so good that at times even standard def is hi-def (looking) on it.

two of my favorite movies to watch to show off the picture is star wars episode 3 and lotr. they put a lot of hi-def channels to shame.

anyway, as to my original question. any thoughts of the player making a big difference on this display?
I sit within the optimal 6-8 feet viewing distance. Any closer than 6 feet and you're probably going to make your eyes bleed.


I can easily discern the difference between quality HD vs. anything else even from up to 12 feet away on this screen. Yes, I have good eyes, but honestly? The screen is that good. You don't have to have eagle eyes to see what I'm talking about.

Heck, I've been downright shocked what this thing can pick up. I see some things that large screen FP people nitpick sometimes on less than optimal quality signals. Honestly.


You may want to consider treating yourself to an ISF calibration at some point to put that thing over the top.

I did and I'm very glad I did.

The only "fault" this TV has is it's only 34 inches, but no it's not like just having EDTV and anyone that says otherwise is simply mistaken.

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Old 11-06-2006, 07:40 PM   #14
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i'm with JTK to the moon and back on this. the set is tremendous.

JTK, what did the ISF run ya? i've thought about it but not sure what would make it any better .
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i'm with JTK to the moon and back on this. the set is tremendous.

JTK, what did the ISF run ya? i've thought about it but not sure what would make it any better .
A couple hundred bucks thereabouts.

Check that ISF thread I linked to earlier.

Might want to read up on this as well:

http://www.imagingscience.com/

http://www.imagingscience.com/isf-trained.cfm


http://www.hdtvbychadb.com/

^^ This was my ISF calibrator. They all explain it better than I can.

I thought it was BS going into it but I'm a firm believer in it now.
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Old 11-06-2006, 09:20 PM   #16
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I sit within the optimal 6-8 feet viewing distance. Any closer than 6 feet and you're probably going to make your eyes bleed.
I strongly disagree with that
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Old 11-06-2006, 09:27 PM   #17
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hehe, ok maybe scream for less pretty stimulous
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