What if the Disney classic Fantasia was launched on Blu? - Blu-ray Forum

Nerdkiller likes BD · 01-17-2008, 05:22 PM

The whole reason that this movie should be on BD is not about the visual quality, it would be about the sound. It should have digitally remastered 7.1 PCM lossless audio as thats whats the BD release is all about. Its what Walt would've wanted. And if the sound doesn't go well, being a movie from the forties, they could always rehire some new orchestra team to do the same music for the BD release. Let me know what you would think about Fantasia on blu and if it's a good idea.

DisneyKrayzie · 01-17-2008, 05:25 PM

I would love to see Fantasia on Blu, I think it could really benefit from it. As a Disney fan I would never argue against having it released. I currently am missing Fantasia from my regular DVD collection so that would give me a reason to buy it on Blu-Ray

The Big Blue · 01-17-2008, 05:26 PM

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What if the Disney classic Fantasia was launched on blu?

I'd buy it?

Joe Cain · 01-17-2008, 05:26 PM

Re-recording the score? Hate that idea.

But it absolutely should see BD release. And it will.

Teazle · 01-17-2008, 05:27 PM

IIRC isn't Fantasia 4:3, so not ideal for a 16:9 HDTV?

blitz6speed · 01-17-2008, 05:27 PM

I want both Fantasia and Fantasia 2000 (RHAPSODY IN BLUE!!). And id like both to have the original audio mixes AND remastered 24-bit 7.1 PCM tracks included. Id buy both day 1.

w_tanoto · 01-17-2008, 05:36 PM

fantasia caused disney some loss back in 1940..... but it might be different now.
I'll still buy it as it is A DISNEY after all

cathexist · 01-17-2008, 05:38 PM

If it was launched on blu...I would buy it

end of story.

jmlalit5 · 01-17-2008, 05:41 PM

I still have never watched Fantasia. Is it really that good?

blitz6speed · 01-17-2008, 05:55 PM

If you enjoy classic Disney Animation and Classic music, it is beyond epic. Love them.

Nerdkiller likes BD · 01-17-2008, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by jmlalit5

I still have never watched Fantasia. Is it really that good?

Well it's ranked #58 in the American Film Institute's 100 Greatest American movies so yes. Its also one of the few movies to recieve a 100% fresh rating at Rotten Tomatoes.

AlexCruz · 01-17-2008, 06:08 PM

I will definitely buy that!!! I'm a Disney FREAK!!!! Like you have no idea. Sleeping Beauty on Blu-ray this year is going to be a huge moment in my life.

Seretur · 01-17-2008, 06:10 PM

You can't re-record Leopold Stokowski, it would be a sacrilege...

Fantasia is old and grainy -- I remember seeing Fantasia 2000 on IMAX in NYC, and the grain in The Sorcerer's Apprentice really stood out. But I'm sure Disney will apply liberal amounts of TLC to the eventual BD release -- to both picture and sound. After all, Sleeping Beauty is getting a 7.1 mix, so I guess all of the classics will get the royal treatment.

Like with the Spielberg and Pixar releases, I'm getting every single BD of the films supervised by Walt himself. This is what this format is made for, after all.

quetzalcoatl · 01-17-2008, 06:24 PM

I would think it should not be much longer. The last release date was in 2000. And if I remeber right it was vaulted right about the time Sleeping Beauty was. And we know we get it at the end of the year. But they might wait until 2010 to make it a 70th anniversary release.

CptGreedle · 01-17-2008, 06:45 PM

I would love to get that of course. I also liked the newer one, Fantasia 2000. It had some very good animations and some very high quality imagery. I saw that one on an IMAX screen years ago, it was amazing. The whales in one of the animations were life-size on the IMAX screen!
WOW!

I would love to see that on Blu-ray.

Horhay · 01-17-2008, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Nerdkiller likes BD

Its what Walt would've wanted.

He will get unfrozen just to see his dream come true lol

BlurayManiac · 01-17-2008, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Nerdkiller likes BD

The whole reason that this movie should be on BD is not about the visual quality, it would be about the sound. It should have digitally remastered 7.1 PCM lossless audio as thats whats the BD release is all about. Its what Walt would've wanted. And if the sound doesn't go well, being a movie from the forties, they could always rehire some new orchestra team to do the same music for the BD release. Let me know what you would think about Fantasia on blu and if it's a good idea.

id buy it in a heart beat and pay any amount for it iam an insane disney fan

Nerdkiller likes BD · 01-17-2008, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by quetzalcoatl

I would think it should not be much longer. The last release date was in 2000. And if I remeber right it was vaulted right about the time Sleeping Beauty was. And we know we get it at the end of the year. But they might wait until 2010 to make it a 70th anniversary release.

Yeah, they should hold it of until either Jan 1st (the 10th aniversery of Fantasia 2000) or Nov 13th when the movie was first shown on roadshow premere

sean10mm · 01-17-2008, 07:11 PM

The fact that it was made in 1940 might make you assume it would look awful, but the type of Technicolor film it was shot on actually keeps incredibly well. None of the previous versions used modern restoration techniques, either. I'm sure it won't look like Cars, but it could be a lot better than you'd think.

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Originally Posted by Seretur

Fantasia is old and grainy -- I remember seeing Fantasia 2000 on IMAX in NYC, and the grain in The Sorcerer's Apprentice really stood out.

Yeah, but keep in mind that it was shot on 35mm and blown up to 70mm IMAX format, which amplified the appearance of grain. Also, you watch an IMAX movie much closer to the screen and on a bigger screen than a conventional movie, which makes it look even worse. I'm sure it will be somewhat grainy no matter what, but watched on a HDTV it won't be nearly as obvious as a blow-up on IMAX.

As for sound, the original recording was multi-tracked (one of the first) and Disney digitally restored it for the 1990 veresion, so a good surround mix is possible too.

Joe Cain · 01-17-2008, 07:30 PM

Walt's original plan was for Fantasia to be a rotating repertory piece, going out on the road with new pieces substituting for old.

Last night the kids were watching Fantasia 2000...both films are favorites in our house, and I very much appreciate how the kids respond to them: instead of sitting rapt, mouth-breathing & hypnotized, they're constantly talking to the film or about what's onscreen; it's not a passive experience, and I like that. Anyway, 2000 gets more play for its much shorter running time and for the selection of pieces; from the original, "Night on Bald Mountain" is just way too much, at least for the youngest, and they've been known to lose interest in "The Rite of Spring" and Beethoven's "Pastoral" from time to time.

With BD's seamless branching capabilities, I think it would be neat if they could fit both films onto a single disc and allow the viewer to make selections from both, creating a personalized Fantasia experience. It'll never happen, but I like the idea a lot.

(I also like the idea of making another film in the series around the music that is arguably America's greatest contribution to world culture and which has sadly become as unappreciated as classical music; if I ever get a sit-down with John Lasseter I'm gonna push the jazz Fantasia hard.)

01-17-2008, 05:22 PM	#1
Nerdkiller likes BD Blu-ray Knight Top contributor Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Wrestling in Ireland. PSNetwork: Nerdkiller316PSN Nerds beaten up: Loads 4K collection:75 Blu-ray collection:880 Trading Score:1	What if the Disney classic Fantasia was launched on Blu? The whole reason that this movie should be on BD is not about the visual quality, it would be about the sound. It should have digitally remastered 7.1 PCM lossless audio as thats whats the BD release is all about. Its what Walt would've wanted. And if the sound doesn't go well, being a movie from the forties, they could always rehire some new orchestra team to do the same music for the BD release. Let me know what you would think about Fantasia on blu and if it's a good idea.

01-17-2008, 05:36 PM	#7
w_tanoto Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Hatfield, UK / Jakarta, Indonesia Blu-ray collection:37 Blu-ray reviews:47	fantasia caused disney some loss back in 1940..... but it might be different now. I'll still buy it as it is A DISNEY after all Last edited by w_tanoto; 01-17-2008 at 05:40 PM.

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01-17-2008, 05:25 PM	#2
DisneyKrayzie Active Member Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Los Angeles, CA	I would love to see Fantasia on Blu, I think it could really benefit from it. As a Disney fan I would never argue against having it released. I currently am missing Fantasia from my regular DVD collection so that would give me a reason to buy it on Blu-Ray

01-17-2008, 05:26 PM	#4
Joe Cain Power Member Member since:Sep 2007 Location:The Tragic City Blu-ray collection:79	Re-recording the score? Hate that idea. But it absolutely should see BD release. And it will.

01-17-2008, 05:27 PM	#5
Teazle Power Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Canada Blu-ray reviews:1	IIRC isn't Fantasia 4:3, so not ideal for a 16:9 HDTV?

01-17-2008, 05:27 PM	#6
blitz6speed Blu-ray Guru Member since:Oct 2006 Location:Anaheim Hills, CA Trading Score:8	I want both Fantasia and Fantasia 2000 (RHAPSODY IN BLUE!!). And id like both to have the original audio mixes AND remastered 24-bit 7.1 PCM tracks included. Id buy both day 1.

01-17-2008, 05:38 PM	#8
cathexist Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Aurora, CO 4K collection:302 Blu-ray collection:1253 DVD collection:73 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:8	If it was launched on blu...I would buy it end of story.

01-17-2008, 05:41 PM	#9
jmlalit5 Active Member Member since:Dec 2007 Blu-ray collection:112	I still have never watched Fantasia. Is it really that good?

01-17-2008, 05:55 PM	#10
blitz6speed Blu-ray Guru Member since:Oct 2006 Location:Anaheim Hills, CA Trading Score:8	If you enjoy classic Disney Animation and Classic music, it is beyond epic. Love them.

01-17-2008, 06:08 PM	#12
AlexCruz Expert Member Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Arkham Asylum, Gotham City Blu-ray collection:77 Blu-ray reviews:26	I will definitely buy that!!! I'm a Disney FREAK!!!! Like you have no idea. Sleeping Beauty on Blu-ray this year is going to be a huge moment in my life.

01-17-2008, 06:10 PM	#13
Seretur Special Member Member since:Jul 2007 Location:An Island in the Adriatic Blu-ray collection:521 Blu-ray reviews:5 Trading Score:2	You can't re-record Leopold Stokowski, it would be a sacrilege... Fantasia is old and grainy -- I remember seeing Fantasia 2000 on IMAX in NYC, and the grain in The Sorcerer's Apprentice really stood out. But I'm sure Disney will apply liberal amounts of TLC to the eventual BD release -- to both picture and sound. After all, Sleeping Beauty is getting a 7.1 mix, so I guess all of the classics will get the royal treatment. Like with the Spielberg and Pixar releases, I'm getting every single BD of the films supervised by Walt himself. This is what this format is made for, after all.

01-17-2008, 06:24 PM	#14
quetzalcoatl Special Member Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Grants Pass, OR	I would think it should not be much longer. The last release date was in 2000. And if I remeber right it was vaulted right about the time Sleeping Beauty was. And we know we get it at the end of the year. But they might wait until 2010 to make it a 70th anniversary release.

01-17-2008, 06:45 PM	#15
CptGreedle Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Sworn super-hero now services Atlanta (and suburbs). Blu-ray collection:128 Blu-ray reviews:5	I would love to get that of course. I also liked the newer one, Fantasia 2000. It had some very good animations and some very high quality imagery. I saw that one on an IMAX screen years ago, it was amazing. The whales in one of the animations were life-size on the IMAX screen! WOW! I would love to see that on Blu-ray.

01-17-2008, 07:30 PM	#20
Joe Cain Power Member Member since:Sep 2007 Location:The Tragic City Blu-ray collection:79	Walt's original plan was for Fantasia to be a rotating repertory piece, going out on the road with new pieces substituting for old. Last night the kids were watching Fantasia 2000...both films are favorites in our house, and I very much appreciate how the kids respond to them: instead of sitting rapt, mouth-breathing & hypnotized, they're constantly talking to the film or about what's onscreen; it's not a passive experience, and I like that. Anyway, 2000 gets more play for its much shorter running time and for the selection of pieces; from the original, "Night on Bald Mountain" is just way too much, at least for the youngest, and they've been known to lose interest in "The Rite of Spring" and Beethoven's "Pastoral" from time to time. With BD's seamless branching capabilities, I think it would be neat if they could fit both films onto a single disc and allow the viewer to make selections from both, creating a personalized Fantasia experience. It'll never happen, but I like the idea a lot. (I also like the idea of making another film in the series around the music that is arguably America's greatest contribution to world culture and which has sadly become as unappreciated as classical music; if I ever get a sit-down with John Lasseter I'm gonna push the jazz Fantasia hard.)

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