Marvel Studios Fantastic Four (TBA) - Blu-ray Forum

BluRayHiDef · 12-25-2017, 03:56 PM

I haven't seen Fantastic Four (2005) and Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer (2007) in years and therefore have been watching clips from both flicks on YouTube for the past couple of days, which have motivated me to purchase the double-feature BD of both movies. The clips have reminded me that they aren't great films but are decent; they're competently made, well casted, and fun, as well as funny.

The actors accurately portray their characters, especially Chris Evans as Johnny Storm, and they have great chemistry and really bring the protagonists to life; their humorous bickering and emotional consolations of one another effectively convey that they are a family, that is to say "Marvel's First Family." As for the Silver Surfer, I think that he is portrayed very well and accurately and comes across as awesome; I don't see any faults in his depiction at all. The only downside to these two movies is that they're too short and narratively simple. Hence, I understand why they aren't praised but don't see why they're so hated.

Anyhow, how do you think Marvel Studios' own movie about the Fantastic Four will differ from these two? Do you think that it'll be tonally different? I ask because the lighthearted and humorous tone of these two flicks is right up the MCU's alley. Also, do you think that Marvel Studios will use practical effects or CGI for the thing?

BluRayHiDef · 12-25-2017, 04:07 PM

I personally think that a movie about the FF in the MCU should be exactly like the two from 2005 and 2007, but with a more complex narrative that has thematic subtleties, better special effects, and a longer running time (135 minutes). As for The Thing, I honestly think that they should use the same practical effects that were used in the films released in 2005 and 2007 but on a taller and more muscular actor.

kylor · 12-25-2017, 04:25 PM

Fantastic Four should try to emulate this movie:

CyberpunkCentral · 12-25-2017, 04:25 PM

Fantastic Four probably fits in with the MCU tone more than any other Marvel property.

TheLaughingMann · 12-25-2017, 04:38 PM

Ideally, Fantastic Four has the blend of a dysfunctional family that has to work together harder than ever.

Guardians of the Galaxy is the closest to a Fantastic Four movie we got from the Marvel side, methinks.

But don't give the Fox movies any ill will. The first movie was good, but the second one definitely took things up a notch and was better.

BluRayHiDef · 12-25-2017, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberpunkCentral

Fantastic Four probably fits in with the MCU tone more than any other Marvel property.

You mean the characters themselves or the first two Fox movies?

InuYashaCrusade · 12-25-2017, 05:22 PM

I want to see Doom done justice, I can't wait for him and Galactus.

I don't know what to expect from a FF movie made by Marvel in all honesty. The only real knowledge I have of the Fantastic Four are from the 05 and 07 movies and I barely remember them, I was young when they released.

CyberpunkCentral · 12-25-2017, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by BluRayHiDef

You mean the characters themselves or the first two Fox movies?

The characters themselves. Because other Marvel properties like Hulk, Iron Man, Spider-Man and X-Men explore a bit more "grounded" themes and such. But with Fantastic Four, you have that fun family dynamic incorporated into these strange and cosmic adventures just like MCU. Marvel doesn't need to make a Spider-Man 2 or Logan with Fantastic Four. That MCU's style is everything you need to make a great Fantastic Four movie.

Zillamon51 · 12-25-2017, 06:34 PM

Similar tone to the first two movies, just ... better.

To begin with, I don't think they'd cast a beautiful Latina actress, then give her horribly fake-looking blonde hair and thick blue contacts.

CyberpunkCentral · 12-25-2017, 07:13 PM

Yeah, the tone in the first two Fantastic Four movies were just fine. It's just that they didn't get the characters right. Except for The Human Torch and The Thing, though. Those two were spot on. But they didn't do enough to make us care for the rest of the characters. Doctor Doom got shitted on the most. Sure Marvel is no better with their villains either, but this is Doctor F***ing Doom. Marvel's greatest villain (not you, Thanos) and Stan Lee's favorite of all time. Hell, Darth Vader was heavily inspired by Doctor Doom. Now that sorcery is now established in the MCU, Marvel can now give us a comic book accurate Doctor Doom. Where as Fox always made Doctor Doom into the typical scientist turned to evil mutate cliche for some stupid reason.

TheLaughingMann · 12-25-2017, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Zillamon51

Similar tone to the first two movies, just ... better.

To begin with, I don't think they'd cast a beautiful Latina actress, then give her horribly fake-looking blonde hair and thick blue contacts.

Well, they did try to turn Kate Mara into Sue Storm in the re-do...

CyberpunkCentral · 12-25-2017, 07:19 PM

Kate Mara didn't look good either. You can tell she was wearing a wig at times as well and she didn't even had blue-eyes. So it has nothing to do with being Latina (Jessica Alba's mother is actually a white blonde in real life). They just need to cast an ACTUAL blue-eyed blonde next time.

bandit29 · 12-25-2017, 07:20 PM

Over the top, slightly corny with at least 2 ending credit scenes.

dgoswald · 12-25-2017, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberpunkCentral

They just need to cast an ACTUAL blue-eyed blonde next time.

Kate Upton.

CyberpunkCentral · 12-25-2017, 07:29 PM

There are no good actresses in Hollywood that are blonde?

Doctor Jack · 12-25-2017, 07:36 PM

Actually good.

InuYashaCrusade · 12-25-2017, 08:09 PM

Kate Mara could have been decent if not for the director telling everyone to act depressed and void of emotion. She was the only actor in the 2015 film that I had some hope for.

CyberpunkCentral · 12-25-2017, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by InuYashaCrusade

Kate Mara could have been decent if not for the director telling everyone to act depressed and void of emotion. She was the only actor in the 2015 film that I had some hope for.

Something similar happened to Jessica Alba in the Fantastic Four films as well. The director wanted her to stay pretty in an emotional scene. He didn't want Jessica Albs too be too emotional because he didn't think would look good crying.

Batman1980 · 12-25-2017, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberpunkCentral

Something similar happened to Jessica Alba in the Fantastic Four films as well. The director wanted her to stay pretty in an emotional scene. He didn't want Jessica Albs too be too emotional because he didn't think would look good crying.

Jessica Alba looks good 100% of the time, dude.

robgmun · 12-25-2017, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberpunkCentral

Kate Mara didn't look good either. You can tell she was wearing a wig at times as well and she didn't even had blue-eyes. So it has nothing to do with being Latina (Jessica Alba's mother is actually a white blonde in real life). They just need to cast an ACTUAL blue-eyed blonde next time.

To be fair they only went too far in the second movie, she looked fantastic in the first one:

12-25-2017, 03:56 PM	#1
BluRayHiDef Banned Member since:Sep 2011 Location:New York, New York 4K collection:99 Blu-ray collection:273	Marvel Studios Fantastic Four (TBA) I haven't seen Fantastic Four (2005) and Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer (2007) in years and therefore have been watching clips from both flicks on YouTube for the past couple of days, which have motivated me to purchase the double-feature BD of both movies. The clips have reminded me that they aren't great films but are decent; they're competently made, well casted, and fun, as well as funny. The actors accurately portray their characters, especially Chris Evans as Johnny Storm, and they have great chemistry and really bring the protagonists to life; their humorous bickering and emotional consolations of one another effectively convey that they are a family, that is to say "Marvel's First Family." As for the Silver Surfer, I think that he is portrayed very well and accurately and comes across as awesome; I don't see any faults in his depiction at all. The only downside to these two movies is that they're too short and narratively simple. Hence, I understand why they aren't praised but don't see why they're so hated. Anyhow, how do you think Marvel Studios' own movie about the Fantastic Four will differ from these two? Do you think that it'll be tonally different? I ask because the lighthearted and humorous tone of these two flicks is right up the MCU's alley. Also, do you think that Marvel Studios will use practical effects or CGI for the thing?

12-25-2017, 04:07 PM	#2
BluRayHiDef Banned Member since:Sep 2011 Location:New York, New York 4K collection:99 Blu-ray collection:273	I personally think that a movie about the FF in the MCU should be exactly like the two from 2005 and 2007, but with a more complex narrative that has thematic subtleties, better special effects, and a longer running time (135 minutes). As for The Thing, I honestly think that they should use the same practical effects that were used in the films released in 2005 and 2007 but on a taller and more muscular actor.

12-25-2017, 04:25 PM	#3
kylor Blu-ray Prince Member since:Jul 2015 Location:The past.. or the future. 4K collection:696 Blu-ray collection:7101 DVD collection:620 MA collection:1030 Digital collection:2058 Trading Score:3	Fantastic Four should try to emulate this movie:

12-25-2017, 04:25 PM	#4
CyberpunkCentral Banned Member since:Apr 2009 Blu-ray reviews:6	Fantastic Four probably fits in with the MCU tone more than any other Marvel property.

12-25-2017, 04:38 PM	#5
TheLaughingMann Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Jan 2015 Location:Delaware 4K collection:32 Blu-ray collection:1961 DVD collection:172 Blu-ray reviews:17 Trading Score:25	Ideally, Fantastic Four has the blend of a dysfunctional family that has to work together harder than ever. Guardians of the Galaxy is the closest to a Fantastic Four movie we got from the Marvel side, methinks. But don't give the Fox movies any ill will. The first movie was good, but the second one definitely took things up a notch and was better.

12-25-2017, 05:22 PM	#7
InuYashaCrusade Blu-ray Prince Member since:Jun 2013 Blu-ray collection:- DVD collection:- Trading Score:17	I want to see Doom done justice, I can't wait for him and Galactus. I don't know what to expect from a FF movie made by Marvel in all honesty. The only real knowledge I have of the Fantastic Four are from the 05 and 07 movies and I barely remember them, I was young when they released.

12-25-2017, 06:34 PM	#9
Zillamon51 Banned Top contributor Member since:Oct 2013 Location:S.E. Michigan 4K collection:374 Blu-ray collection:2062 DVD collection:664 Digital collection:929 Trading Score:11	Similar tone to the first two movies, just ... better. To begin with, I don't think they'd cast a beautiful Latina actress, then give her horribly fake-looking blonde hair and thick blue contacts.

12-25-2017, 07:13 PM	#10
CyberpunkCentral Banned Member since:Apr 2009 Blu-ray reviews:6	Yeah, the tone in the first two Fantastic Four movies were just fine. It's just that they didn't get the characters right. Except for The Human Torch and The Thing, though. Those two were spot on. But they didn't do enough to make us care for the rest of the characters. Doctor Doom got shitted on the most. Sure Marvel is no better with their villains either, but this is Doctor F***ing Doom. Marvel's greatest villain (not you, Thanos) and Stan Lee's favorite of all time. Hell, Darth Vader was heavily inspired by Doctor Doom. Now that sorcery is now established in the MCU, Marvel can now give us a comic book accurate Doctor Doom. Where as Fox always made Doctor Doom into the typical scientist turned to evil mutate cliche for some stupid reason.

12-25-2017, 07:19 PM	#12
CyberpunkCentral Banned Member since:Apr 2009 Blu-ray reviews:6	Kate Mara didn't look good either. You can tell she was wearing a wig at times as well and she didn't even had blue-eyes. So it has nothing to do with being Latina (Jessica Alba's mother is actually a white blonde in real life). They just need to cast an ACTUAL blue-eyed blonde next time.

12-25-2017, 07:20 PM	#13
bandit29 Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Jan 2009 Location:Chicago, IL Blu-ray collection:88 DVD collection:17 MA collection:3 Digital collection:117 Prime collection:1	Over the top, slightly corny with at least 2 ending credit scenes.

12-25-2017, 07:29 PM	#15
CyberpunkCentral Banned Member since:Apr 2009 Blu-ray reviews:6	There are no good actresses in Hollywood that are blonde?

12-25-2017, 07:36 PM	#16
Doctor Jack Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Oct 2013 Trading Score:230	Actually good.

12-25-2017, 08:09 PM	#17
InuYashaCrusade Blu-ray Prince Member since:Jun 2013 Blu-ray collection:- DVD collection:- Trading Score:17	Kate Mara could have been decent if not for the director telling everyone to act depressed and void of emotion. She was the only actor in the 2015 film that I had some hope for.

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