Tom Cruise Asks Folks to Turn Off Their Motion Smoothing... - Blu-ray Forum

IntelliVolume · 12-05-2018, 08:03 PM

Not sure if this was somewhere else on the forum, but I came across this video (it was also an online news story) after I rented and watched the latest Mission: Impossible on Blu-ray last night (incredible IMAX footage interwoven with so-so HD captures)...

Interesting...

Groot · 12-05-2018, 08:13 PM

That's random, but I appreciate them trying to spread awareness of that feature. I've talked to a lot of floor salesman about HD TV's over the years and you'd be surprised how many people have returned sets thinking something was wrong with the TV, when it was this feature smoothing everything awkwardly.

Over the years, at least on Samsung and LG TVs I've bought/seen, the feature is in the main menu but I'm sure it's buried on quite a few models.

dmunhausen · 12-05-2018, 08:17 PM

I've been to a friend's house and turned their motion smoothing off and they were in disbelief and thanked me for it. It's a shame people aren't aware to change a simple setting.

Admittedly I thought it was cool when I got my very first HDTV but that didn't last long.

jtu128 · 12-05-2018, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by dmunhausen

I've been to a friend's house and turned their motion smoothing off and they were in disbelief and thanked me for it. It's a shame people aren't aware to change a simple setting.

Admittedly I thought it was cool when I got my very first HDTV but that didn't last long.

Haha, I do that all the time. I once went to a friends house who was watching the first Ninja Turtles movie and it was like a soap opera.

DJR662 · 12-05-2018, 08:29 PM

This is one feature I can absolutely do without. I have never used it and never will, regardless of the content.

imsounoriginal · 12-05-2018, 08:29 PM

There's already a thread for this video. And several threads about M:I Fallout and Top Gun 2.

slimdude · 12-05-2018, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by IntelliVolume

Not sure if this was somewhere else on the forum, but I came across this video (it was also an online news story) after I rented and watched the latest Mission: Impossible on Blu-ray last night (incredible IMAX footage interwoven with so-so HD captures)

Oh please! Did Tom Cruise really felt the need to introduce himself, as if nobody didn't already know who he is? How much did they pay him to make THIS video. It sounded like a script to me!

Richard Graham · 12-05-2018, 08:35 PM

Shouldn't we watch The Hobbit movies with the motion smoothing on? To replicate the 48fps he filmed them in?

IntelliVolume · 12-05-2018, 08:37 PM

Yeah, fellas...I thought it was funny seeing the message coming from Cruise's mouth...at any rate, it was interesting being that I believe it's a message actually included on the 4K Blu-ray of Mission: Impossible Fallout. The regular Blu-ray didn't have it.

When I first got into HD and was shopping for my first display back in like 2007, I remember being smitten by the Sony Bravias and Samsung LCDs that had these settings turned on in the stores -- to me, it made the characters on the screens appear as if they were "floating" out of the televisions, almost in a surreal fashion. I wanted it! I was hooked! Especially when I saw a demo of a Bravia LCD showing a clip of the first Pirates of the Caribbean and Captain Jack was slowly hovering towards me as he attempts to sweet talk his way into commandeering the Interceptor...WOW did that floor me.

I did not end up buying an LCD because our budget wouldn't allow it (back then, large-sized LCDs were still expensive), so we ended up with a Sony SXRD rear projection display...and it DIDN'T have the frame interpolation feature! Can you imagine!!!?? I was PISSED and felt like I was watching "flat film" compared to those LCDs that made the films look like video games...wahhhh….wahhhhh…..

Fast-forward to 2018 when I get my first LCD as a primary display in a much larger size: By default, the "Auto Motion Plus" (Samsung speak for the interpolation system) was turned on into its horrifying "automatic" mode on the TV I bought, making everything look like a hyper-surreal soap opera on game steroids. Needless to say, I've come to appreciate the "film" look even more (that is, what the DIRECTOR intended with regard to frame rates and cinematography).

That said, I do leave my Samsung's Auto Motion Plus settings in their default positions for the MOVIE picture mode, which I use for serious film watching, and this maxes out Blur Reduction and adds a VERY very subtle touch of SOE via its Judder Reduction adjustment.

IntelliVolume · 12-05-2018, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by imsounoriginal

There's already a thread for this video. And several threads about M:I Fallout and Top Gun 2.

I wasn't aware of this, which is why I stated it in the original post; my apologies.

imsounoriginal · 12-05-2018, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Richard Graham

Shouldn't we watch The Hobbit movies with the motion smoothing on? To replicate the 48fps he filmed them in?

It's not really replicating 48fps, it's just an algorithm that happens to kinda look like that. But it would work for 3D, I guess. I don't think there was ever an HFR 2D version release.

IntelliVolume · 12-05-2018, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by slimdude

Oh please! Did Tom Cruise really felt the need to introduce himself, as if nobody didn't already know who he is? How much did YouTube pay him to make THIS video.

I know...

What's interesting is that this "public service announcement" was supposedly included on the 4K BD of the new Mission: Impossible...

Reminds me of when the late Paul Walker made the public service announcement on "behalf" of Castrol about the dangerous driving at the beginning of the first Fast and the Furious DVD...

Wingman1977 · 12-05-2018, 10:10 PM

It's a feature that TV makers should remove completely from their sets.

spf781 · 12-05-2018, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Richard Graham

Shouldn't we watch The Hobbit movies with the motion smoothing on? To replicate the 48fps he filmed them in?

Only if you want to make an already painful experience even worse.

danny24 · 12-06-2018, 12:00 AM

Out of the box you play a movie and it looks like garbage until you turn this feature off.

I love that they are spreading awareness of this problem as many people either think the TV has a defect or the Blu-ray player has a defect or both.

TV manufacturers need to turn this off by default before shipping.

It's definitely a problem for sure. I wonder how many people just leave it on without knowing the picture could be better and more film like.

Penton-Man · 12-06-2018, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by IntelliVolume

Not sure if this was somewhere else on the forum...

Wow!

ray0414 · 12-06-2018, 12:18 AM

The bigger story is that the era of tvs post plasma suck at motion. And the biggest tv seller in the entire world (Samsung), has the worst motion of all the big companies. Without any type of interpretation on a Samsung TV, it looks like the screen is having a seizure.

IntelliVolume · 12-06-2018, 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Wow!

Did I not apologize enough times for accidentally posting this Cruise public service announcement twice (if it was somewhere on the forum already)?

Here...I'll do it again: I'm sorry if you had already discussed this somewhere (I gave up on the banter within the HDR discussion thread eons ago).

IntelliVolume · 12-06-2018, 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by ray0414

The bigger story is that the era of tvs post plasma suck at motion. And the biggest tv seller in the entire world (Samsung), has the worst motion of all the big companies. Without any type of interpretation on a Samsung TV, it looks like the screen is having a seizure.

While I would normally cough a statement like this up to typical unbridled Samsung bashing (rampant on most hobbyist forums akin to this one), there's something to be said about the brand's out-of-the-box-in-Standard picture mode "auto" function of the Auto Motion Plus...it's admittedly nauseatingly aggressive.

docmoejones · 12-06-2018, 02:22 PM

good for you, I've only gotten the "oh no he didn't just touch my damn radio" look

Quote:

Originally Posted by dmunhausen

I've been to a friend's house and turned their motion smoothing off and they were in disbelief and thanked me for it. It's a shame people aren't aware to change a simple setting.

Admittedly I thought it was cool when I got my very first HDTV but that didn't last long.

12-05-2018, 08:37 PM	#9
IntelliVolume Banned Member since:May 2016	Yeah, fellas...I thought it was funny seeing the message coming from Cruise's mouth...at any rate, it was interesting being that I believe it's a message actually included on the 4K Blu-ray of Mission: Impossible Fallout. The regular Blu-ray didn't have it. When I first got into HD and was shopping for my first display back in like 2007, I remember being smitten by the Sony Bravias and Samsung LCDs that had these settings turned on in the stores -- to me, it made the characters on the screens appear as if they were "floating" out of the televisions, almost in a surreal fashion. I wanted it! I was hooked! Especially when I saw a demo of a Bravia LCD showing a clip of the first Pirates of the Caribbean and Captain Jack was slowly hovering towards me as he attempts to sweet talk his way into commandeering the Interceptor...WOW did that floor me. I did not end up buying an LCD because our budget wouldn't allow it (back then, large-sized LCDs were still expensive), so we ended up with a Sony SXRD rear projection display...and it DIDN'T have the frame interpolation feature! Can you imagine!!!?? I was PISSED and felt like I was watching "flat film" compared to those LCDs that made the films look like video games...wahhhh….wahhhhh….. Fast-forward to 2018 when I get my first LCD as a primary display in a much larger size: By default, the "Auto Motion Plus" (Samsung speak for the interpolation system) was turned on into its horrifying "automatic" mode on the TV I bought, making everything look like a hyper-surreal soap opera on game steroids. Needless to say, I've come to appreciate the "film" look even more (that is, what the DIRECTOR intended with regard to frame rates and cinematography). That said, I do leave my Samsung's Auto Motion Plus settings in their default positions for the MOVIE picture mode, which I use for serious film watching, and this maxes out Blur Reduction and adds a VERY very subtle touch of SOE via its Judder Reduction adjustment. Last edited by IntelliVolume; 12-05-2018 at 08:41 PM.

12-05-2018, 08:13 PM	#2
Groot Banned Member since:Aug 2015 Location:Thanos Cock Trading Score:14	That's random, but I appreciate them trying to spread awareness of that feature. I've talked to a lot of floor salesman about HD TV's over the years and you'd be surprised how many people have returned sets thinking something was wrong with the TV, when it was this feature smoothing everything awkwardly. Over the years, at least on Samsung and LG TVs I've bought/seen, the feature is in the main menu but I'm sure it's buried on quite a few models.

12-05-2018, 08:17 PM	#3
dmunhausen New Member Member since:Mar 2018 Location:Houston 4K collection:125 Blu-ray collection:139 iTunes collection:4	I've been to a friend's house and turned their motion smoothing off and they were in disbelief and thanked me for it. It's a shame people aren't aware to change a simple setting. Admittedly I thought it was cool when I got my very first HDTV but that didn't last long.

12-05-2018, 08:29 PM	#5
DJR662 Blu-ray Knight Member since:Feb 2009 Trading Score:30	This is one feature I can absolutely do without. I have never used it and never will, regardless of the content.

12-05-2018, 08:29 PM	#6
imsounoriginal Blu-ray Grand Duke Top contributor Member since:Dec 2008 Location:NYC 4K collection:320 Blu-ray collection:946 DVD collection:70 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:59	There's already a thread for this video. And several threads about M:I Fallout and Top Gun 2.

12-05-2018, 08:35 PM	#8
Richard Graham Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Nov 2010 Location:Kirksville, Missouri Blu-ray collection:1042 Trading Score:26	Shouldn't we watch The Hobbit movies with the motion smoothing on? To replicate the 48fps he filmed them in?

12-05-2018, 10:10 PM	#13
Wingman1977 Blu-ray Champion Top contributor Member since:Mar 2008 Location:The empire state Trading Score:23	It's a feature that TV makers should remove completely from their sets.

12-06-2018, 12:00 AM	#15
danny24 Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Feb 2010 4K collection:32 Blu-ray collection:43 Trading Score:58	Out of the box you play a movie and it looks like garbage until you turn this feature off. I love that they are spreading awareness of this problem as many people either think the TV has a defect or the Blu-ray player has a defect or both. TV manufacturers need to turn this off by default before shipping. It's definitely a problem for sure. I wonder how many people just leave it on without knowing the picture could be better and more film like.

12-06-2018, 12:18 AM	#17
ray0414 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Oct 2015 Location:Michigan, USA, 35yo Trading Score:9	The bigger story is that the era of tvs post plasma suck at motion. And the biggest tv seller in the entire world (Samsung), has the worst motion of all the big companies. Without any type of interpretation on a Samsung TV, it looks like the screen is having a seizure.

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