IMAX Marvel on Disney+ - Blu-ray Forum

Agent Kay · 11-08-2021, 07:00 AM

Marvel's superheroes are about to get a bit bigger on your TV. Disney+ announced today that it's adding an expanded IMAX aspect ratio for 13 Marvel titles, including*Shang-Chi*and*Black Panther,*on November 12th (AKA "Disney+ Day"). The 1.90:1 IMAX aspect ratio will look up to 26 percent taller than the typical 2.35:1 widescreen format in Marvel films, so those annoying black bars will almost disappear while you're watching scenes shot in IMAX. (You'll still see some slight bars, though, as the IMAX format doesn't completely fill 16x9 widescreen TVs.)

The expanded aspect ratio should give Marvel's action sequences more room to pop on your TV, and it's a feature Disney+ can lord over its streaming competitors. Technically, IMAX Enhanced isn't delivering the large film format's true aspect ratio, which is more square. But, as we saw with*Zack Snyder's Justice League, that leads to enormous black bars on the sides of your TV. It's also worth noting that we won't see IMAX versions of*The Avengers*and*Ant-Man, as those are the rare Marvel films that used the TV-filling 1.85:1 aspect ratio (a choice made to convey a better sense of height).

Looking ahead, IMAX Enhanced will also bring immersive DTS sound to Disney+, a competing option to the more ubiquitous Dolby Atmos format. Representatives from all of the companies involved tell us that IMAX Enhanced films will also support Dolby Vision, HDR10, 4K (naturally) and Dolby Atmos sound.

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The following movies will be getting IMAX support on Disney+...
Phase 1
Iron Man
Phase 2
Guardians of the Galaxy [Vol. 1]
Phase 3
Captain America: Civil War
Doctor Strange
Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2
Thor Ragnarok
Black Panther
Avengers: Infinity War
Ant-Man and the Wasp
Captain Marvel
Avengers: Endgame
Phase 4
Black Widow
Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings

https://www.engadget.com/disney-plus...140016192.html

SpazeBlue · 11-08-2021, 07:26 AM

Cool, now release them to disc.

Jumpman · 11-08-2021, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by SpazeBlue

Cool, now release them to disc.

Good luck with that. This is kind of bad, actually. This is a deliberate move to push more to streaming.

At best, customer’s digital copies that they redeemed when they bought the 4K disc of a Marvel film “might” get upgraded to the IMAX version but I SERIOUSLY doubt that.

Going forward, I have no doubt that every Marvel film will get his treatment on Disney+ and not on disc. And if that happens, this forum is going to let Disney have it.

rubystone356 · 11-08-2021, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by SpazeBlue

Cool, now release them to disc.

Most are shown in 3d on disc. Missing in action is iron man, and avengers infinity war and endgame.

Jacob

R3P0 · 11-08-2021, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Jumpman

Good luck with that. This is kind of bad, actually. This is a deliberate move to push more to streaming.

At best, customer’s digital copies that they redeemed when they bought the 4K disc of a Marvel film “might” get upgraded to the IMAX version but I SERIOUSLY doubt that.

Going forward, I have no doubt that every Marvel film will get his treatment on Disney+ and not on disc. And if that happens, this forum is going to let Disney have it.

Yeah the Imax enhanced versions will never be released on disc. If they were it would have been with the 4K releases. As you said this is to push streaming. Most fans will not drop another 1k + on discs just to get IMAX enhanced I know I wont. Look at the Shang Chi release on disc it says nothing about IMAX enhanced anywhere and that gets released on the 30th I think.

Lazarus Dark · 11-08-2021, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Jumpman

Good luck with that. This is kind of bad, actually. This is a deliberate move to push more to streaming.

At best, customer’s digital copies that they redeemed when they bought the 4K disc of a Marvel film “might” get upgraded to the IMAX version but I SERIOUSLY doubt that.

Going forward, I have no doubt that every Marvel film will get his treatment on Disney+ and not on disc. And if that happens, this forum is going to let Disney have it.

Soon as I saw this news, I was ticked off honestly. I paid, what, a couple hundred for all the Phase 3 films in 4k Blu-ray? And I still intended to upgrade the earlier versions to 4k whenever I had a good amount of extra cash. But now, they release these, and you know they'll never be on disc. It is a very clear intentional move to give streaming an advantage over disc, you know they want to stop selling discs at some point.

Even worse for me, I discovered when I rented Black Widow at release that D+ will only allow the Atmos track if you are watching on a 4k display, if you are watching at 1080p you can only get the DD+ track. My pj is 1080p and I don't intend to upgrade any time soon (4k Blu-ray still looks noticeably better at 1080p than regular Blu-ray, so I'm still all-in on 4k Blu-ray, plus the Atmos tracks are often only on the 4k disc). So even IF I wanted to watch these IMAX streaming versions, I can't get them in Atmos!

Rizor · 11-08-2021, 12:56 PM

Good to see these will be available in 4K even if it's just streaming.

XavierTheaterPotato · 11-08-2021, 01:05 PM

Cool, watch them all just not be available on anything but certain TVs.

kannibaliztik · 11-08-2021, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by XavierTheaterPotato

Cool, watch them all just not be available on anything but certain TVs.

It's any TV when you watch through D+

samlop10 · 11-08-2021, 01:54 PM

Honestly this is a bit gimmicky. The directors of these films made the films mainly with a 2.40:1 AR in mind. I remember watching both Infinity War and Endgame in both Laser IMAX and a Dolby Cinema (which use the 2.40:1 AR instead of the taller AR) and much preferred the Dolby Cinema versions. The picture quality was slightly better and audio was better too. And nothing felt missing from the different AR in Dolby because a lot of that extra picture is just empty information. If it had truly been important the rest of the releases (disc, other streaming sites) would have received the taller AR too.

It makes sense for 3D because it creates a more immersive picture for the 3D itself, but in regular 2D it’s almost, if not completely, worthless at home. I think this is just IMAX and DTS trying to stay relevant in the home video market.

a_o · 11-08-2021, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by rubystone356

Most are shown in 3d on disc. Missing in action is iron man, and avengers infinity war and endgame.

Jacob

also spider-man far from home, which had several sequences in IMAX aspect ratio.

i appreciate having the option for DTS and also not losing Dolby Vision. tv shopping now.

vnguyen · 11-08-2021, 02:35 PM

I think this is good news for disc lovers as well. I would say a year after Disney+ gets to promote this exclusive, they will offer these versions on disc to get the video enthusiasts to double dip.

avs commenter · 11-08-2021, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by samlop10

Honestly this is a bit gimmicky. The directors of these films made the films mainly with a 2.40:1 AR in mind. I remember watching both Infinity War and Endgame in both Laser IMAX and a Dolby Cinema (which use the 2.40:1 AR instead of the taller AR) and much preferred the Dolby Cinema versions. The picture quality was slightly better and audio was better too. And nothing felt missing from the different AR in Dolby because a lot of that extra picture is just empty information. If it had truly been important the rest of the releases (disc, other streaming sites) would have received the taller AR too.

It makes sense for 3D because it creates a more immersive picture for the 3D itself, but in regular 2D it’s almost, if not completely, worthless at home. I think this is just IMAX and DTS trying to stay relevant in the home video market.

Sure it's a gimmick. But it's also really F'N cool to now have the option to see the Imax version of these films. Well done Disney+

samlop10 · 11-08-2021, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by avs commenter

Sure it's a gimmick. But it's also really F'N cool to now have the option to see the Imax version of these films. Well done Disney+

Is it though? Given the extra picture information is practically useless?

kannibaliztik · 11-08-2021, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by samlop10

Is it though? Given the extra picture information is practically useless?

Yes, it's pretty awesome. Glad I'll be able to watch these in their imax ratio now.

avs commenter · 11-08-2021, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by samlop10

Is it though? Given the extra picture information is practically useless?

Yes

Agent Kay · 11-08-2021, 03:43 PM

Jumpman · 11-08-2021, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by vnguyen

I think this is good news for disc lovers as well. I would say a year after Disney+ gets to promote this exclusive, they will offer these versions on disc to get the video enthusiasts to double dip.

Seriously doubt that.

Lee A Stewart · 11-08-2021, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by kannibaliztik

Yes, it's pretty awesome. Glad I'll be able to watch these in their imax ratio now.

"The IMAX Ratio" . . .

1.90 versus Spherical (1.85)

samlop10 · 11-08-2021, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by kannibaliztik

Yes, it's pretty awesome. Glad I'll be able to watch these in their imax ratio now.

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Originally Posted by avs commenter

Yes

Lolol. The logic makes perfect sense.

11-08-2021, 07:26 AM	#2
SpazeBlue Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Feb 2019 Location:Idahoe 4K collection:117 Blu-ray collection:211 Blu-ray reviews:2	Cool, now release them to disc.

11-08-2021, 12:56 PM	#7
Rizor Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Jun 2008 Location:NJ, USA 4K collection:1602 Blu-ray collection:6185 DVD collection:192 MA collection:73 Digital collection:51 iTunes collection:29 Prime collection:7 Blu-ray reviews: 32 Trading Score:159	Good to see these will be available in 4K even if it's just streaming.

11-08-2021, 01:05 PM	#8
XavierTheaterPotato Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jul 2018 Location:Wisconsin, USA 4K collection:392 Blu-ray collection:618 DVD collection:33 Digital collection:3	Cool, watch them all just not be available on anything but certain TVs.

11-08-2021, 01:54 PM	#10
samlop10 Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Dec 2010 Location:Austin TX Home Theater Gallery:53 4K collection:1041 Blu-ray collection:3901 DVD collection:9 Blu-ray reviews: 59 Trading Score:1	Honestly this is a bit gimmicky. The directors of these films made the films mainly with a 2.40:1 AR in mind. I remember watching both Infinity War and Endgame in both Laser IMAX and a Dolby Cinema (which use the 2.40:1 AR instead of the taller AR) and much preferred the Dolby Cinema versions. The picture quality was slightly better and audio was better too. And nothing felt missing from the different AR in Dolby because a lot of that extra picture is just empty information. If it had truly been important the rest of the releases (disc, other streaming sites) would have received the taller AR too. It makes sense for 3D because it creates a more immersive picture for the 3D itself, but in regular 2D it’s almost, if not completely, worthless at home. I think this is just IMAX and DTS trying to stay relevant in the home video market.

11-08-2021, 02:35 PM	#12
vnguyen Active Member Member since:Jan 2010 4K collection:415 Blu-ray collection:519 DVD collection:2 Trading Score:10	I think this is good news for disc lovers as well. I would say a year after Disney+ gets to promote this exclusive, they will offer these versions on disc to get the video enthusiasts to double dip.

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