BD-LIVE profile 2.0 support coming but no 1080P/24 option or DTS-HD for computers yet

[HDTV1080P]

The great thing about owning a BLU-RAY or dual format computer drive is that since the PC is so powerful it is just like owning a Sony PS3 when it comes to updates. Any BLU-RAY computer drive or dual format computer drive one decides to purchase will play all future BLU-RAY discs with PIP bonus view (profile 1.1) and BD-LIVE profile 2.0 with a software update.
One of the disadvantages of computer desktop and Notebook computers is none of them support 1080P/24 yet. Hopefully in the future someone will make a monitor and graphics card for a desktop and Notebook computer that supports 24fps at multiplies of the original frame rate. Also there are no advanced audio options like DTS HD Master audio for computers. A dedicated BLU-RAY player that supports 1080P/24 and the advanced audio formats is the better choice then a computer for anyone that wants the ultimate home theater room.

[dadkins]

My laptop appears to have the ability of PCM & Dolby for audio.




PowerDVD Ultra appears to decode the Dolby Digital Surround EX 5.1 *AND* LPCM 5.1 just fine.






Yes, It does have HDMI as well.

EDIT: Just looked over my BDs, none seem to have DTS MA on them, but PowerDVD Ultra - well... pretty sure it covers all the bases.

[Riverside666]

DVI is HDMI it's the same thing, just without the audio but PQ is PQ.

[dadkins]

Originally Posted by Riverside666

DVI is HDMI it's the same thing, just without the audio but PQ is PQ.

Yes! But as I stated, this machine does have HDMI - video with audio.

[Riverside666]

Yes I belive the 1730 I had earlier had the same thing but I'm just saying that there is no difference between HDMI and DVI. I'm not even entirely sure if I would want to use the HDMI cables on my setup due to the simple fact that my sound card is external or at least a Express PC Card. I really don't go for that integrated motherboard (software based) sound especially when trying to attach it to a set of external speakers or even a System.

[Lord_Phan]

Everything has PCM, PCM is what they get decoded into.

PowerDVD can decode everything except the MA part of DTS HD MA. It does do DTS HD.

You won't get top quality audio out of SPDIF Optical cables. Only via the Analog outs or HDMI.

[Riverside666]

If you never watch your BLu Rays on PC at full screen does it really matter what type of resolution you have? I mean obviously the bigger the easier or better it is, but in the end does it really matter? I only ask because I think I generally browse the web or chat while watching many of my blu ray films. Granted I could watch at 1080 if I go to full screen but I just don't ever really go to full screen.

[Lord_Phan]

I watch them in full screen

What monitor do you have? and why not sit back and enjoy the movie?

[dadkins]

BDs I watch full scereen.
SD DVDs and converted video I sometimes watch in a window - or full screen
Wireless networked TV I have in a window sometimes as well.
This machine rarely has cable connected to it.

[Riverside666]

If I wanted to sit back and enjoy something I'm definitely not doing it in my office chair or in my office for that matter. I'd do it in my living room or my family room. I probably work a whole lot more then I play however I do watch movies or TV while I work half paying attention at times.

[HDTV1080P]

Originally Posted by benes

You can easily get 24p out of any PC, for both Blu-ray and HDDVD. This is actually one of the advantages of a HTPC.

And DTS-MA decoding will just be a simple software update. All other codecs are supported.

All the external computer monitors and the monitors built in Notebooks supports 60HZ only. Now of course if one uses a home theater LCD HDTV TV that refreshes 1080P/24 at 120HZ they might be able to watch native 1080P/24 signals off the disc if the graphics card supports it.
Question I have not seen the 1080P/24 HDMI option on a Notebook or graphics card yet. Which graphics card or Notebook are you using that has 1080P/24? I have seen only 1080P/60 as a option so far. Also every computer monitor 30 inches and below only accepts 1080P/60. Of course one could plug a 1080P/24 compatible HDTV into a computer if it supports that signal.

[dadkins]

Haven't used it - yet, but it appears that the nVidia Control Panel allows for "Custom Timings" where various items can be changed for various displays.





Sorry, I don't have a HDTV connected to it for it to read/list the display's capabilities... or for a test.

YMMV

[Allin4greeN]

My understanding is that the output of 1080p/24 from an HTPC is more limited by the monitor/HDTV than the PC.

I think that an HDTV would need to be capable of 3:3 or 5:5 pulldown to accept and match the necessary refresh rate(s). I could be wrong but, that's been my understanding.

AFAIK, Pioneer is one of the few manufacturers currently doing 3:3 pulldown.

I would be happy to be corrected if any of the above is inaccurate.

[HDTV1080P]

I have not been able to get a computer to work on 1920 X 1080P with 24fps. Only 60 fps. Perhaps I have an old graphics card that does not support 24fps. Searching the Internet for several days I was not able to find a computer graphics card that mentioned HDMI 1080P support at 24fps when playing BLU-RAY discs. It would be nice if this feature was advertised.
Has anyone had any success with using a computer BLU-RAY drive with a 1080P/24 input display? The way to tell if you are inputting 24HZ versus 60HZ is to hit the info button on the TV. Most displays will tell you if the signal coming into it is 60HZ or 24HZ. It should say something like “1920 X 1080P @ 60HZ” on the display screen.
I just borrowed a fully loaded top of the line HP 20 inch Notebook with a built in BLU-RAY drive from someone. This Notebook is over $4,000 with a 1920 X 1200 screen and a HDMI output. The LCD screen built into it will only refresh at 60HZ. 1080P/24 material is converted to 60HZ using a 3:2 pulldown method.
When and if I get a chance I will try and output 1080P/24 by HDMI to a 1080P display. I did not see that option on the HP Notebook but I will look again.
Also refresh rate and fps can have diffrent meanings. I see many editors of magazines throwing around fps and refresh rates like they mean the exact same thing. 35mm and 70mm film has a 24fps rate and is refreshed on the screen at 48HZ or 72HZ.