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Old 05-08-2021, 07:07 PM   #1
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Default The Adventures of Robin Hood (1938) - Pidax

How did Pidax manage to license this from Warner?

https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B08...SIN=B08VCL12SS

https://www.pidax-film.de/Film-Klass...ray::2084.html



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Old 05-09-2021, 11:09 AM   #2
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Yes, it seems odd. Pidax are also releasing a three film Tarzan set next month (Tarzan's Greatest Adventure, Tarzan Goes To India & Tarzan's Three Challenges), all of which have been release on WAC Blu-rays.
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The German DVD from 2010 is Warner. Wonder if the copyright expired in Germany or something.
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Old 05-10-2021, 08:02 AM   #4
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The German DVD from 2010 is Warner. Wonder if the copyright expired in Germany or something.

doubt it... afaik it was always renewed...
and they pretty much got all of the bonus features as well..
seems Warner did license this one out to them...
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Old 05-10-2021, 10:17 AM   #5
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doubt it... afaik it was always renewed...
and they pretty much got all of the bonus features as well..
seems Warner did license this one out to them...
No mention of Warner on the back though.
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Old 05-14-2021, 08:05 AM   #6
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Iīve emailed Pidax 4 days ago asking about the Robin Hood and if they have licensed it from Warners .. and about the possibility if they may have more Warner titles coming...
NO REPLY

couldnīt imagine this being an illegal release..
and this being one of THE classics from prolly the biggest world wide company youīd really be a fool to bootleg that..
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Old 05-14-2021, 08:14 AM   #7
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Pretty sure they have a deal with Warner Bros. Pidax is releasing Thundercats on DVD next month.
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Old 05-14-2021, 08:15 AM   #8
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Iīve emailed Pidax 4 days ago asking about the Robin Hood and if they have licensed it from Warners .. and about the possibility if they may have more Warner titles coming...
NO REPLY

couldnīt imagine this being an illegal release..
and this being one of THE classics from prolly the biggest world wide company youīd really be a fool to bootleg that..
As I posted a couple of days ago, they do have more Warner titles coming, three Tarzan films that Warner Archive has released.
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Considering how hard it is for well known boutique labels to licence from Warner it is odd.
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As I posted a couple of days ago, they do have more Warner titles coming, three Tarzan films that Warner Archive has released.
yeah.. saw that...was thinking they might already have a few more coming

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Considering how hard it is for well known boutique labels to licence from Warner it is odd.
exactly.. but still.. couldnīt imagine this NOT being legal...
but SO ODD Warner would license out one of THE classics from their library, youīd think is is one theyīd like to release themselves.. maby in a collectors edition
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Old 05-14-2021, 11:56 AM   #11
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Of course what we'd really like is for Pidax to be releasing films that Warner haven't released yet
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Old 05-14-2021, 01:57 PM   #12
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No mention of Warner on the back though.
That's very suspect. Usually a sure sign of a bootleg.
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The only Pidax release that I have (Montana Jones vol.1) doesn't mention any copyright info either.

fwiw Pidax recently cancelled their Queen Millennia DVD due to rights issues. I don't believe they are bootleggers.

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That's very suspect. Usually a sure sign of a bootleg.
I have two Pidax releases Oliver Twist and Return of the Musketeers, both have copyright holder information on the back, ITV and MGM respectively.
So they are legit or at least used to be.

If somehow those Warner titles were now PD in Germany, they wouldn't have all those Warner produced extras mentioned on the back. Maybe the back cover is a quick knock up for marketing purposes. Will wait and see
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Old 05-14-2021, 07:17 PM   #15
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There is no PD in Germany. German collectors are also wondering why, of all things, Pidax receives such valuable Licenses. I have the Pidax and the US in the collection. The US BD has clearly the better PQ and unfortunately the Pidax has a pal pitch for the German Dub. For me is the disc a letdown.

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There is no PD in Germany. German collectors are also wondering why, of all things, Pidax receives such valuable Licenses. I have the Pidax and the US in the collection. The US BD has clearly the better PQ and unfortunately the Pidax has a pal pitch for the German Dub. For me is the disc a letdown.
Are there screencaps between the US-blu-ray and the German blu-ray?

Didnīt Pidax take the master that Warner used for their blu-ray release?
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Are there screencaps between the US-blu-ray and the German blu-ray?

Didnīt Pidax take the master that Warner used for their blu-ray release?
Haven't seen any caps so far. But I compared the Pidax and the US by myself. Picture is rather identical though but the Pidax compression is significantly worse and it is having a lower bitrate.
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Old 05-17-2021, 03:22 AM   #18
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I think Pidax other releases like Thundercats have Warner logos on the back, indicating they were licenced through them. It's possible the German copyright to The Adventures of Robin Hood wasn't renewed or had expired due to it's 70 year renewal range being maxed out.
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Old 05-17-2021, 07:37 AM   #19
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The only Pidax release that I have (Montana Jones vol.1) doesn't mention any copyright info either.

fwiw Pidax recently cancelled their Queen Millennia DVD due to rights issues. I don't believe they are bootleggers.
Yes, they cancelled the release because Toei threatend to sue them.

And Warners haven't licensed Robin Hood or Thundercats to Pidax, I have an email from them.
Pidax got into bootleg-business some time ago. With releases from recorded TV-boradcasts or that infamous Mosquito Coast Blu-ray.

I can only say: Stay away from Pidax releases.
Some of them have logos and copyright-informations on their back. Those are OK, but of course the more interesting titles are obviolsly not legit!
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Old 05-17-2021, 08:32 AM   #20
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It does not necessarily have to be licensed directly from Warner.
It could be that the title was also sub-licensed by Studio Hamburg Enterprises. Just like some awesome titles from Anolis.
At least that would be a possibility even if the logos were missing.
Even with some WB titles that Studio Hamburg has published, the logos are also missing on the artwork, and these titles were known to have been part of a deal with Warner

However, anything would be possible, only we don't know what is going on
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