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Hi everybody. I noticed a section in the BluRay.com forums where you can have your own thread & post what you'd like in it. Consider it my "baby" Twitter! Anyway, if you know me here, I'm a music fanatic, mostly the world of 1980's Metal, and I collect and discuss Blu-Ray collecting and review films on a regular basis.

Look forward to hearing from each of you, and keeping discussions flowing through here. Also, from time to time, I will repost certain older and newer posts of mine here to keep a tally if you will, of what I've said in the past you may have missed.

Enjoy! Chat with you soon!

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Okay, here's my double dips as of 06/20/2018:

*A through G*



















More below.

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Okay, here's my double dips as of 06/19/2018 Part Two:

*H through R*


















More To Follow....

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Okay, here's my double dips as of 06/19/2018 Part Three:

*S through Z*











Wow, I have a lot of double-dips, don't I? Sure, some may be upgrades, or alternate cuts, or singles versus double features, but I now see that my collection is greatly padded. What do you think I should do? Clean house or keep some of these? Let me know!

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Just Ordered:


Hmm, what took me so long to finally buy these? Maybe because the Shout Collector Editions are always too high? Anyway, a little monster double feature for me this weekend. Humanoids was one of my CPOCWIWAK movies

[Show spoiler]Constantly Played On Cable When I Was A Kid

movies and I've been wanting to see it again for a long time (gotta be at least 25 years). Hope I get a Slip with Thing, but maybe it's been out too long now. We'll see.

Recently Bought/Viewed:


Arrrrrrrrrgh! Man, what a disappointment. Could have been a great new start, but man, almost an hour before you see any, and I mean any, resemblance of a TCM storyline. Hell, this movie could have been the origin story of anything! Even character-actor fav Stephen Dorff couldn't save this. Made the 2000's remakes look like the original in quality. No wonder the price dropped so quickly. Blah.

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Recently Watched/Rented (?):



Okay first off: HOW DID THIS MOVIE END UP IN REDBOX!!!!! Completely unrated too! I'm a horror nut, been so for close to forty years, and honestly the last film series to peak my interest was Saw. Since then, a slasher character from the past ten years (as if Jigsaw really was one, he ain't) seemed "been there, done that". But now is Terrifier, and Art The Clown. This dude is creepy! Imagine the silence of Jason, with the sadism of Freddy, and a ton of practical effect gore and you have this movie. After research, I found out that he comes from another anthology movie "All Hallows Eve" and a short demo film made to look like Grindhouse (you gotta see that one!). Anyway, this movie is way too gory to be in a Redbox. A must for any horror fan, can't wait for the sequel!

Recently Ordered:

Strangely ordered before I rented Terrifier, here's two of the not-so-great TCM films, but I want to finish my collection. I thought the R. Lee Ermey prequel was pretty good, and he really gave an excellent performance equal to Full Metal Jacket in his two TCM flix. Real b**tard! As for the other one, less than $4 bucks, same with Beginning. Just to fill out the collection, still need 3, 4, and '17's 8.

Recently Bought (Double/Triple Dip):


While I'm on the TCM kick, I bought this two weeks ago. I already have both Blu-Ray versions of the original and I know the second one is inside this Steelbook, but look at that cover! Is it just me or is that dead armadillo in front of the van cool or what? In fact, I believe this is the only Blu Ray release of any TCM movie without Leatherface or a chainsaw on the cover! I think there was a DVD release one time with just meat (?), but I never seen one without those two images before on Blu. Only cost $15 at FYE.....something about that cover.....

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Recently Purchased (Again But For Reason....):



So part of my weekly ritual is to go to my local two Goodwill's. While I don't buy DVD's anymore, I do buy used CD's and at Goodwill the occasional Blu Ray. Every so often you find something good and this was one of them. This OOP set of the Original Trilogy, even though it is still available under the Disney release, was unopened, still sealed! And with the "color of the day" sticker, it came up to $1.46, that's it. I don't plan to open it (I've had "The Complete Saga" for years), but I recently priced it on Amazon and unopened it's going for $45 to $65 dollars. Wow. BTW, can anyone tell me if there is a difference between the Fox releases and the Disney ones outside of packaging? Curious. Go to Goodwill, you may be surprised what you find.

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Part of my recent purchases of remastered Queensryche CD's, it took me a little time to realize that outside of the singles of this 1994 release, "I Am I" & "Bridge" (two great tracks), I have never sat through this album in it's entirety. After doing so, it's a strange follow-up to megahit "Empire". Somber, darker, and chock full of sonic interludes, Promised Land is almost a Metal carbon copy of Pink Floyd's "Wish You Were Here", and that's not a bad thing. However, without the catchy hooks of "Empire" I can see why this was the beginning of their decline. No where as bad as the grunge followup "Hear In The Now Frontier" (at least this album sounds honest, "Hear" sounds forced & desperate), but I would assume Ryche fans would consider this a classic in their library, but not for a newbie.

(07/11/2018)

[Show spoiler]Have you gone to my thread yet? I want to hear your opinions! Click below!

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Recently Bought/Currently Watching:



Recently went down to Best Buy & I picked up a copy of Season Two to go with my Season One. I saw all these episodes on a binge of a Starz/Encore free weekend preview awhile ago, so now I can take my time with them. As most know, for some lame-ass reason, Starz has given up on the show and cancelled it after only it's third season, and I'm not too happy about that. It is a great, gory, and fun show with a decent supporting cast & Campbell's still able to pull off the Ash character without it being...well, sad. But I do have to be honest with myself, regardless of all the unique, horrific effects in every episode, it does tend to feel like a one-trick pony at times. Drive, fight evil, drive, find evil, etc. In a way, I'm surprised it lasted as long as it did. But I still love the show & was angry it didn't get say a 5 year run. But this scenario usually succeeds better in the hour & a half format, maybe that's why I never got into "The Walking Dead", I prefer my Zombies in hour & a half spurts, not for years & years.

Still, nice Blu presentation with commentaries and shorts on the show. Though the introduction of

[Show spoiler]Ash's daughter

in Season 3 seemed a tad desparate, I plan on buying it too to finish the trilogy.

(BTW, this repost is my 1000th post on BluRay.Com )

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Originally Posted by BucketheadPikes

Look, what BHP said, quoting from Iommi's book, which by the way I own and it's a great read, pretty much sums up the awkward feeling of the album at the time. You gotta remember, this was the follow-up to Sabbath's most epic & evil album ever, Born Again. I was right there back in January of 1986 with my cassette copy, being just a junior in high school at the time. All my group loved Born Again. In fact, friends who didn't really care for Sabbath, still loved Born Again. I remember everyone was in agreement that Seventh Star was horrible, but only that way because of what it followed. I, the Sabbath fanatic to the end, tried to explain that the title alone "Featuring Tony Iommi" should say something, and the fact that he was the only original member from Born Again, it has to be a solo album or something. And eventually I found out I was right.

Is it a Sabbath album? No, but in history due to the name, it is. But does it suck? The answer is "Hell No"! It is a great album straight from the glam-metal 80's. Drummer Eric Singer is incredible on it and Glenn Hughes did prove he was more than Deep Purple's bass player with incredible soaring and emotional vocals. Not to mention some of Iommi's best solo work and an unique sound for each which he never quite repeated. A lot of great tracks, especially "Angry Heart/In Memory" that gets you by the metal heartstrings. And yes BHP, while "Headless Cross" is definitely more of a group effort, Seventh Star to me is a better album.

Originally Posted by BucketheadPikes

Great points RS, & your willingness to discuss/debate & present your points &/or counterpoints in a constructive manner, & you also expressing your respect for my opinion as well, is much appreciated. Thank you for being a respectful communicator. You know how I feel about Born Again. It took time to go grow on me, didn't really 'get it' at first. I do like it more now than I ever did, but still feel it's down on the scale a bit for me, & that Master of Reality is actually heavier, with much better songs. I remember my friends having the same reaction as me to BA, not the same reaction as you & your friends, so, there ya go on that one, same with Seventh Star.

Who said Seventh Star sucks? I haven't read that posted by anyone, & I know that I didn't state that either, nor did I imply it. I said I'm not a fan of the album, & then I actually commended Tony's solos & stated that the album has what I consider to be some decent songs. If anyone equates my statements to me saying the album "sucks," you're mistaken & you're putting your own meaning into my words. Bottom line for me is that I never thought of it as a BS album & never will & I'll take Tony's own factual words about it originally being a solo album, not wanting to release it as a BS album, not intending to write it as a BS album & the only reason it's titled a BS album is because some WB suit & tie, along with Don Arden, forced him to do it, in the hopes that sales would be good, esp. considering the dropped-like-a-brick freefall of Born Again on the charts, from #4 on the UK charts, to #99 in a mere 7 weeks! By the time Seventh Star charted though, U.S. interest in Black Sabbath had already started to wane, & that's a fact.

This can't be repeated enough; we all simply just like what we like, & don't like what we don't like, & some stuff we're simply just indifferent to. It's nothing personal with anyone else, it's personal with oneself.

And as for Glenn, despite his 80's problems, he did rejoin Tony for two more studio albums, Fused and The 96 DEP Sessions, both of which are incredible follow-ups to Star. Yes, this is the Sabbath album with the "*" (asterisk), but that doesn't change the fact it's a great recording.

Originally Posted by BucketheadPikes

....As for the album & my opinion of it, I'm not a fan of it myself, some good leads by Tony & a few decent songs, but I really only listen to Headless Cross & Tyr when it comes to the 80's-90's stuff, & Dehumanizer of course. Glenn Hughes is hit or miss with me.....Hopefully you won't take my opinion of the album as a personal attack on you &/or your listening habits, & get all bent out of shape like someone else apparently has on here with me, over an opinion I expressed in another thread. I'm glad you like the album & find enjoyment from listening to it, more power to you!

Yeah, of course. No one should be afraid to post their opinions, no matter how they may differ from the other. Everyone should have that way of posting.

Originally Posted by BucketheadPikes

As for In For The Kill being the sister track to Turn Up The Night, I don't see or hear it. I think a more accurate assessment is that Turn Up The Night is the sister track to Neon Knights. \,,/_(-,-)_\,,/

You're probably more "on the nose" BHP. In fact if you line-up Heaven & Hell with Mob Rules, you'll see a familiar pattern, fast song, epic song, title track, ballad, etc. They are very alike records, it's just that Mob Rules is more epic in sound.

But to be fair, "In For The Kill" definitely comes from the family of "Neon Knights" songwriting within the Sabbath family too.

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Black Sabbath-Paranoid Super Deluxe Box Set
(RedSabbath Rating: 9 and a half outta 10 stars)

Paranoid. The 1970 Black Sabbath second album that not only exploded them into Heavy Metal icons but single-handedly created the genre as well. Nearly every single Metal fan from all generations have experienced it and probably will never be topped or repeated in success. Hard to believe not one, but three all-time classic tunes came from this one album: War Pigs, Iron Man, and of course the song they wrote last minute just to fill up the album's length, Paranoid.

This album has been released and reissued more times than one can count. Just recently, Paranoid (along with other Sabbath classics) got the 2 CD Deluxe treatment back in 2009. Now, we have this, the SUPER Deluxe Box Set, this time with four complete discs of music, and extra swag to boot. But is it overkill? Too much of a good thing? The answer is no, but a little yes as well.

For only thirty or so dollars, you get four discs with a '70 tour program, a hard-cover book full of new interviews, pictures, & insight, and a full sized poster of the band from this era, all contained in a heavy-duty box to hold it all. Each of the albums come housed in a LP reproduction slipcovers that have each disc in a paper protector inside the sleeve just like the old days of vinyl. But it's what's on these discs that make it a worthy purchase or not.

Let's skip to Disc Two, the 1974 Quad Mix of the album. This is a rarity for Sabb fans. But because CD is only 2 channels, you aren't actually getting the 4 channel Quad Mix like in '74. What you get here is what would have come out of your back speakers, with the original album coming out of the front two. Still with a very different mix, with additions and subtractions to the existing music, it's quite a treat, while never, ever replacing your main mix album. Great to have, but really not that essential.

But where you stop questioning your purchase is with Discs Three and Four. Two concerts from 1970 right before Paranoid came out and before Sabbath made their first American appearance, THIS is the true reason you bought this set! One concert from Montreux and one from Brussels. Now the Brussels disc has been widely bootlegged for years. This is the one that was misnoted as being from "Paris". You've seen the video on various Sabbath specials and even Ozzy's "God Bless Ozzy Osbourne", but you have never, and I mean never heard it sound this good. From the moment I pressed play I was shocked at it's fidelity and clarity. After decades of listening to the boot of this, I can now toss that away forever. In fact, most of this recording ended up on Disc Two of Black Sabbath's Past Lives release (with added crowd noise), but that too sounds like mud compared to this. In fact, it's also more complete than any boot/Past Lives recordings, with more Ozzy chatting and tune-up's (sorry no more songs though). The Montreux show is also of excellent quality, with Ozzy's young voice so clear, you'll turn your head thinking he's right there in your living room. Two greats shows, with alternate lyric versions of Iron Man, Hand Of Doom, and even the "Walpurgis" version of War Pigs and incredible sound that I still can't believe they were able to remaster with what they were working with. I personally would have paid thirty bucks for these two discs alone. They are the true reason why you should buy this set.

As for the main Disc One, the original album, yes it sounds great. With volume levels at a proper, yet not crushing level, it puts the 2009 version to shame. While "The Black Box" 2002 version comes close, this one has even more clarity and body. If you ever looked for a definitive version, this one is it, though I believe this remaster is available as a single disc release now too.

Now, I'm a Black Sabbath fanatic, and proud of it. Of course I'm going to give this a highly praising review, but believe it or not, I do have one issue about it that I'm going to share with you. You see, for one album to have the title "Super Deluxe", it still seems to be missing something. For one, the 2009 2CD re-release had a second disc of eight tracks featuring instrumental and alternate vocal takes of the songs from Paranoid. Interesting stuff, but it's NOT part of this release! And also, when you read the informative book included with "Super" you'll notice many quotes taken from all the band members as well as former managers and engineers from a 2010 home DVD/Blu Ray release from the "Classic Albums" series. This disc too is MIA from this box set. You'd figure that by the name alone you wouldn't have to make three different purchases to have a truly complete collection of the Paranoid album, but sadly if you really want it all, that's what you'll have to do.

In the end, this still is one incredible box set for one incredible, ground breaking, genre creating, album. Hopefully others in Sabbath's library will also get the same treatment (Master Of Reality, anyone?), but this was the obvious starting point. With such a low price you can't really go wrong with this, and again, the live discs are just too good to pass up (did I mention outside of bootlegs, "Super" is the only way to get them?). So go back to 1970 and revisit the greatest Heavy Metal album of all time. And this time in style! Oh Lord Yeah!

(01/11/2017)

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Originally Posted by HotTastyChili

I love all the bonus tracks, but I wish they wouldn't master the damn things so loud nowadays....

I will admit that these Death remasters are a tad, just a tad, on the high side. But I had the original CD's of SBG and Leprosy, and listening to both back-to-back in my car, I prefer the slightly "too" louder ones. More power and believe it or not, clarity. I do own a few remastered Metal albums that do go too far "i.e. Heathen: Breaking The Silence", but most do more good than harm.

By the way, there's three "instrumental" tracks on Spiritual Healing that really isn't, in fact they're more an isolated drum track, and Billy Andrews sounds incredible when you hear just him on these. A Must Listen.

Originally Posted by HotTastyChili

...I think it's amusing that the entire thread is a bunch of old metal dudes. Makes me laugh.....

Well, when you think of it, this site is mainly for people who own and regularly collect tangible media, aka CD/DVD/BluRay, where the younger generation will stream & forget. Since they don't own anything, they really don't have a use for the site. With us "old-folks", some of us have been collectioning little silver discs for up to 35 years! Hence, we'd normally be the ones to need & use the site regularly to keep a list online of what we own. BluRay.com covers us in that department.

Originally Posted by HotTastyChili

...I guess we're the most faithful and passionate music fans the world has to offer.

I'd definitely say so. It takes a real fan to get up, go to the store, search for something, and then buy it with earned money to possibly own it for a lifetime. With downloaders & streamers, it's more like "once is enough, on to the next thing". Doesn't sound like too much of a fan now, does it?

Thanks for reading, and supporting music & film...no matter what genre!

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So I bought this mini-boxset of Glenn Hughes' called "Justified Man" which features six of his solo albums around the 2000's. Quick way to get a majority of someones work, but those little cardboard "LP-replica" sleeves make getting discs out a pain. Still, each album was recently remastered, and came with whatever import extra track that overseas got. Not bad for $30 bucks.

I played this one first "Addiction". First, is it just me or does he looks like George Michael on the cover? Anyway, this is Hughes' "dark" album, but the mix of funk and rock is still there. Quite enjoyable, and fits his pattern nicely. Something about him......he should have been in the tier of Ozzy, Dio, Plant, Gillan, Coverdale and such, but he really isn't that well known. His vocals are amazing, some call him "The Voice Of Rock".....God can he soar, but he never really gets mentioned (?).

Also funny, alot of interviews with him, he always mentions he was in Deep Purple. Alot. But let's be honest, it's the Mark II Gillan/Glover "Smoke On The Water" Purple most remember, and even when he was in the band, he shared, not evenly mind you, vocal duties with David Coverdale. Come to think of it, when Whitesnake was huge, I don't remember Coverdale ever mentioning Purple, like it was a lark. But not to Glenn.

Anyway, I like Glenn. I first heard him in 1986 as the singer for "Seventh Star", yes he is officially a family member of Black Sabbath, then followed him with Iommi's two other solo projects, especially "Fused" (highly recommended!). Now I'm checking out his solo work. The funk rock works now more than it did in his first band Trapeze (dated), and if you would like that style without it sounding like it was coming from bufoons (see RHCP), he's the guy.

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Originally Posted by RadicalThrasher

Did you know that the 2002 version of this classic, the one with the extra track of "One Up The "B" Side", has been not only remastered, but remixed as well? Don't think of it like those horrible "Blizzard/Diary" ones where the original bass and drums were taken off replaced by newer members, but this new mix was done at the same time. Not that anything was re-recorded for "Bark", but certain keyboard parts were removed, and believe it or not, a couple of intro guitar parts were taken off too. I know, sounds horrible, but it is an interesting listen compared to the original, and one of my favorite tracks, "You're No Different" is almost a whole minute longer on it! Won't replace the original (I have both versions in my car), but all fans of this album should hear it at least once, you might really like it.



Okay, quick story: I have all five of the Mac's Buckingham/Nicks classics, but when I started my drive I decided to make one album of just Stevie's lead vocal songs. What surprised me is just how little she has, despite most of them being remembered the most as classics. Recently I made a 30 song comp of the rest, with just Christine or Lindsey on lead. Lets face it, these two ruled the roost on number of tracks compared to Stevie, like as if she was the George Harrison of the Mac. But I'd listen to "Something" over "Can't Buy Me Love" any day. No wonder she went solo & got just as popular. Quality over quantity.

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What a pleasant surprise! Didn't even know this even was out, this 2 disc/30 song set from 2015 showcases about five or six of Rob Halford's solo career albums, from 1993's Fight debut to around 2010's latest by Halford. And talk about a remaster job, I never heard those mid-90 Fight songs sound as good as this, ever! Though I really never paid too much attention to Rob's time out of Priest (though I did listen to Fight's War Of Words when it was fresh), I missed out because this is one cool body of solo work, even on the level of Priest themselves. I didn't realize till listening to this that basically when Rob left Priest after Painkiller, he immediately continued in that vein. I mean, alot of this work reminds me of Painkiller, and that's not a bad thing. This 30 track CD also follows two good points: 1) let's try to forget about Rob's experimental industrial phase "2wo" as much as possible by only putting one track from it here (smart....), and 2) let's get some Priest material on here from a live Halford solo album that sounds and performed really good. Yup, both covered. Even though he's been back in Priest for awhile now, this material shouldn't be forgotten and it's this set that's worth the revisit. Definitely fits in any Priest fan's collection, highly recommended!

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Sometimes I forget just how kick-ass this album is. Y'know, a little while back (maybe ten years ago shortly before he died), I read that when Dio got back with Tony & Geez for this, that for him it wasn't a great time. That the frustration and angst from the first split started to creep back quickly once they entered the studio for this. I can hear that here in Dio's voice. He does sound a little uncomfortable on this (and it carry's greatly on Dio's excellent follow-up "Strange Highways"), but I think it created probably something Sabbath never really had before, an angry album. Sure we had evil, scary, atmospheric, and fantasy, but never angry. Listen to Ronnie on "Buried Alive" and "I", he really does sound like he's about to "smash your face in, but with a smile". Shame he'd get even angrier to be pushed aside for Ozzy...again, shortly after.

The reunion of "Heaven And Hell", and the album "The Devil You Know" was good, but not Dehumanizer great. Shame they couldn't do a follow-up due to Ronnie's passing. I think that would have been the ultimate Sabb II moment.

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Originally Posted by RedSabbath

Hey, have you ever heard this one-off 1979 obscurity? If not, you just got to just so you can say you have. It's Glenn Hughes, Al Kooper, Jeff 'Skunk' Baxter & others gone disco. It's a stinker though & Glenn demanded his name be pulled from the project & it was, he's not credited anywhere on the album. It's disco covers of The Drifters (There Goes My Baby), Curtis Mayfield (Gypsy Woman), Burt Bacharach (Any Day Now) & a Rolling Stones medley. Yeah, I'm not kidding.

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Originally Posted by BucketheadPikes

Hey, have you ever heard this one-off 1979 obscurity?

Actually no, but I'm not an over-all Glenn fan. What I mean by that is I don't own or have heard most of his recordings. I barely know Trapeze (though I've heard some, and liked, not loved, what I heard), and this one, especially since his name isn't even on it, would skip by me.

However, Glenn has to be the most successful to me in combining dance-like music with borderline Metal. No one comes close (Faith No More, maybe?). But when it comes to his projects, i know a few.

His work in Purple (under-utilized) & Sabbath/Iommi (short-lived) will always rank highest with me. And some of these solo albums are just great ("Karma" being my all-time favorite).

Thanks for the add to my forum. If I ever come across it, I'll listen.

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Here ya go. If you'd like me to delete these posts after you listen to them, just let me know when to do so:

4 On The Floor (Feat. Glenn Hughes on vocals, 1979) - 01 - There Goes My Baby - YouTube

4 On The Floor (Feat. Glenn Hughes on vocals, 1979) - 02 - Gypsy Woman - YouTube

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Originally Posted by crgtheman

This one's my sh*t.

Dude, it's everybody's sh*t.

Anyway, here's an interesting Sabbath fact, that even this life-long fan didn't know until recently:

Black Sabbath's Paranoid was released the exact day that Jimi Hendrix died: September 18, 1970 . Talk about a "change of the musical guard", huh? Whoa.

Anyway, dug through the Thrash to rip this last night:



Onslaught was one of the second wave bands of Thrash, but sorta a rarity because they were from England, and honestly when it came to "Thrash" metal, they just didn't have alot of bands to offer. "Heavy" Metal, UK had it in spades, even influencing the Thrash movement, but when Thrash reared it's head offically, Onslaught was all they had to offer.

The thrash classic of theirs is "The Force", not groundbreaking but worthy of the genre, this one is the follow-up. The "commercial" follow-up. Sadly, once completed, the label said "Your singer stinks, we got a replacement for you...or no release". That replacement was Grim "See You In Hell" Reaper's Steve Grimmett. At first this sounds terrible, but actually in this format, he really does well, almost giving the album a "Ride The Lightning Meets Anthrax" vibe. And the AC/DC cover didn't hurt either. But released in 1989, it came a bit too late. They broke up shortly after. Still, another cool chapter of Thrash, give it a spin.