LG HU85L Gen-2 CineBeam 4K UHD/HDR Ultra Short Throw Projector

[Hindustani]

https://www.cepro.com/article/lg_gen..._voice_control

LG CineBeam HU85L Features & Claims:

-4K UHD resolution
-Laser projector
-2,500 ANSI lumens
-Ultra short throw (UST): 2-inch projection delivers 90-inch image
-12-point keystone adjustment
-Streaming content via webOS 4.5
-Voice control via LG's ThinQ natural language procesing technology
-"Magic Remote" with voice and gesture control, backlit buttons
USB, Ethernet, HDMI
-Wireless support for keyboard and mouse
-"Highly accurate colors courtesy of its wide color gamut"
-"Smaller than other leading 4K projectors"

Guys, these CineBeams are getting better. That HU80KA was strickly ok product despite all the prices. Laser projectors must hit 3500 - 4000 Lumens for $2500+ plus price tag imo. This will happen by 2020. Meanwhile, 2nd Gen is still stuck at 2500 lumen and no 3D like its award winning predecessor.

[Robert Zohn]

Just had a nice visit from LG's projector product managers at our showroom. I have high hopes for LG's new UST 4K HDR laser projector.

I listed a few more technical details on our dedicated HU85L web page and will be posting live from LG's CES press conference with the price and availability as well as my hands on 1st impressions at LG's CES private off site suite.

[Quint van der Vaart]

This looks like it could be a nice product to have.....curious to see more at CES 2019.

[Hindustani]

Originally Posted by Quint van der Vaart

This looks like it could be a nice product to have.....curious to see more at CES 2019.

I say wait around til CES 2020. Projectors are getting there. Without HDMI 2.1 and less than 3500 lumens for laser, I'll wait. They are getting there eventually. after all, you'll pay $3000 atleast.

[KcMsterpce]

If it's anything like the HU80KA, specs are nice, some decent (and hopeful) options, but will ultimately lag behind in color reproduction and performance from peoples' initial expectations.

Disappointment? Maybe if you want really good picture quality at that price range. Maybe not if you're into laser bulb technology, and good chassis design, and are willing to sacrifice amazing visual performance for portability and thoughtful design "wow" factor(s).

If they do the same stuff they did with LG's laser projector for promotion, I'd be very, very skeptical. Watch out for:
- No professional reviews before release
- A smattering of scattershot "reviews" that fail to properly calibrate the projector, and/or do not address actual specifications of real-world lumens output, actual color performance based on the true capabilities/expectations of WCG, and black levels.
- Paid advertisements from the big projector websites that will sing its praises, posing as an actual review.

If this happens, I recommend:
Holding off on purchase until the truth rears its head; for better or for worse.

[Quint van der Vaart]

We'll see what LG brings to the table next week when all specs and pricing is announced.
This is not for me but for my brother-in-law i'm a Sony projector guy although i have to admit that the new JVC projectors got me curious.

[Robert Zohn]

Just put up the HU85L UST projector .pdf spec sheet with most of the detailed specs.

[Quint van der Vaart]

At this point i'm not convinced this will be a very good product.

[Robert Zohn]

Sorry to respectfully disagree. Other than seeing prototypes at CES and CEDIA and loving the performance, just yesterday the chief engineers from S. Korea HQ visited our showroom with an engineering production HU85LA and we spent a couple hours running test patterns and content and comparing it to other UST and normal lens projection systems.

LG's new HU85LA is a very high performance UST HDR projector.

[Quint van der Vaart]

Thanks for your reply Robert !
But it still isn't a full native 4k UST right ?

[roar]

Originally Posted by Quint van der Vaart

Thanks for your reply Robert !
But it still isn't a full native 4k UST right ?

This is more of a general comment of full native 4K versus any of the shifting tech out there rather than a comment on the LG but I spent a couple of years convincing myself that I needed a full native 4K projector... I've done a blind shootouts between JVC's 4K shifters and their new lineup of true 4K and couldn't tell the difference with 4K Blu Ray material as the source material, not pausing to pixel peep. You'd have to have some next level optical skills to be able to tell the difference IMO.

I get it though, in my head I know it's not 'full native 4K' so I must be missing something. In the end I bought the NX5 because my brain kept telling me there had to be a difference. Truth be told I'd have more money in my pocket if I would listen to what my eyes were seeing rather than what my brain was telling me .

[DJR662]

Originally Posted by roar

This is more of a general comment of full native 4K versus any of the shifting tech out there rather than a comment on the LG but I spent a couple of years convincing myself that I needed a full native 4K projector... I've done a blind shootouts between JVC's 4K shifters and their new lineup of true 4K and couldn't tell the difference with 4K Blu Ray material as the source material, not pausing to pixel peep. You'd have to have some next level optical skills to be able to tell the difference IMO.

I get it though, in my head I know it's not 'full native 4K' so I must be missing something. In the end I bought the NX5 because my brain kept telling me there had to be a difference. Truth be told I'd have more money in my pocket if I would listen to what my eyes were seeing rather than what my brain was telling me .

But in the end I bet it just feels "right" to have bought a native 4K projector over a pixel shifter.

[roar]

Originally Posted by DJR662

But in the end I bet it just feels "right" to have bought a native 4K projector over a pixel shifter.

You know it

[Robert Zohn]

Originally Posted by Quint van der Vaart

Thanks for your reply Robert !
But it still isn't a full native 4k UST right ?

Sorry, but my first post was actually incorrect!! Correct, it's TI's latest generation 4K HDR 0.66” DLP E-shift chip. This new e-shift chip delivers a beautiful image.

LG's new HU85LA is a native full 4K HDR chipset, it is not an e-shift chip. I confirmed this with LG's engineer in charge of projectors

[Quint van der Vaart]

Hi Robert,

Got any info yet on pricing and availability ??
I do have to admit that my interest is peaked now that it turns out to be a full native 4K projector

[Robert Zohn]

LG has not officially announced the price at this moment.

[Robert Zohn]

Interesting new HU85LA video from LG Electronics.

https://youtu.be/NUgAzLU3AKs

[Quint van der Vaart]

Looks like a good product....now all we need is to get the actual product to demo/test.
So LG bring the pricing and release date details !

[Robert Zohn]

I've had LG's HU85LA engineering production unit at my house and in our showroom for personal testing in our three theaters. I love the performance, image quality and all of its built-in features.

LG selected my company as the pre-launch partner and we'll be hosting a demo event in our Scarsdale NY showroom on Saturday, August 24 and Sunday August 25th. I plan on setting up two HU85LAs, one in our beautiful lifestyle living room styled premium a/v demo area and the second HU85LA will be installed in our movie theater demo room.

[GaeUk80]

Originally Posted by Robert Zohn

I've had LG's HU85LA engineering production unit at my house and in our showroom for personal testing in our three theaters. I love the performance, image quality and all of its built-in features.

LG selected my company as the pre-launch partner and we'll be hosting a demo event in our Scarsdale NY showroom on Saturday, August 24 and Sunday August 25th. I plan on setting up two HU85LAs, one in our beautiful lifestyle living room styled premium a/v demo area and the second HU85LA will be installed in our movie theater demo room.

Hi Robert,

thanks for the heads up. I know it's not been released yet but do you know if the final price is closer to the $2.999 (announced price) or latest gossip one $5.999?. That will change completely my decision to wait for it in Sept.

Thanks