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Old 09-29-2010, 06:12 AM   #1
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Dario Argento's Giallo (2009) is set to be released on November 3.

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The title Giallo refers, generically, to a distinctive kind of Italian horror-thriller film, of which writer-director Dario Argento has been a leading exponent since his 1970 debut The Bird With The Crystal Plumage.

As such, it’s a very self-referential title, akin to Pulp Fiction, and one which is also indicative of the film’s nature, that it is more for his fan-base in Italy and internationally than an attempt to reach a new audience.

The big question, even as far as this audience is concerned, is whether the film can live up to fan expectation. Or, insofar as Argento’s stock is currently at a low level in the wake of a string of poorly received films – 2004’s The Card Player, 2005’s Do You Like Hitchcock? and 2007’s The Third Mother – whether it might actually surpass them for those sufficiently dedicated to find out.

Amongst mainstream critics, meanwhile, Argento’s reputation, such as it is, is as a virtuoso stylist who is not particularly skilled with narrative and characterisation, and whose work is often marred by its gratuitous violence and misogyny.

While he has tried to address these criticisms, the results as seen in the likes of 1993’s Trauma and 1996’s The Stendhal Syndrome, have ended up pleasing fewer fans whilst still failing to curry favour with the critics.

The one exception, at least as far as fans were concerned, was 2001’s Sleepless, a film widely perceived as a return to form, precisely because it presented a kind of retrospective ‘greatest hits’ package that looked back to Argento’s 1970s and early 1980s work. It also came in the wake of his idiosyncratic 1998 adaptation of The Phantom Of The Opera, a film about which few have anything positive to say.

It’s at this point that I must declare my own position: I think that each and every one of Argento’s films has something to make them worthwhile, and that Sleepless is over-rated compared to Trauma, The Stendhal Syndrome and The Card Player. I also think that, if taken as an intentional parody – always an awkward critical position to take, admittedly – The Phantom Of The Opera actually works.

It is also in this way that I would argue Giallo’s apparent weak points may be taken as strengths, such that we can laugh with the film’s more awkward moments rather than at them.

Before accentuating the possible negatives, however, I would like first to address the positives. Like Sleepless, Giallo is a film that breaks little new ground. But whereas its predecessor made a somewhat selective survey of the high points of Argento’s past films, Giallo looks all around.

Thus, for example, while we get a nightmarish yet naturalistic re-imagining of Suspiria and Inferno’s taxi rides – the maniac here is a taxi driver – we also also have an exciting rooftop chase finale that recalls the less well regarded Cat O’ Nine Tails.

Argento also continues to explore his emergent interest in Japanese culture, as previously seen in The Third Mother’s Gothic Lolita/J-horror styled witch follower of the mother. Giallo’s maniac, himself given the name Giallo for a meaningful diegetic reason, draws inspiration from violent hentai manga and subjects his victims to sadistic tortures that wouldn’t be out of place in Takashi Miike’s Audition. Disconcertingly – but ultimately tellingly, via past traumas, involving their respective mothers, that define both men’s present situations – his police nemesis also buys a volume of Japanese pornographer/photographer Araki’s work.

Elsewhere we may note the name of the overarching production company, Hannibal Films, as in Lektor; the presence of Polanski veterans Adrien Brody and Emanuelle Seigner, also of course Mrs Polanski; and, in a more throwaway manner, the returning-the-favour presence of a poster for Juno.

The Thomas Harris reference serves to further highlight the Manhunter-esque relationship between cop and maniac and to explain away the rather unusual position the former occupies within the Turin police force.

The plot can be summarised as follows: Giallo’s modus operandi is to kidnap beautiful young women whose absence will not immediately be noticed. One such victim is Celine, a young fashion model; giallo fans will immediately notice the form’s long fascination with the world of glamour, dating all the way back to Mario Bava’s foundational 1964 entry Blood And Black Lace. Unfortunately for Giallo, and perhaps fortunately for Celine, her air-hostess sister Linda (Seigner) has just arrived in town to pay a visit. Concerned by Celine’s failure to show up for their rendezvous, Linda goes to the police station to file a missing person’s report and is there sent to see Inspector Enzo Avolfi (Brody) in the bowels of the building. He soon realises the “pattern killer” he is hunting has struck again and they embark on a desperate race against time to save Celine…

It provides a solid framework for plenty of classic Argento images, suspense, shocks and splatter.

In the case of the violence, however, it’s also important to note that as much is suggested as shown. Besides helping answer those who would argue Argento’s violence is only gratuitous, it’s an approach which proves beneficial insofar as it showcases what special effects man Sergio Stivaletti can do rather than what he perhaps might struggle at, namely convincing in-camera facial mutilation effects, and the desire of a portion of the audience to see such images.

The other thing Giallo has is a lot of humour. Humour is, of course, not alien to the horror film. But it is also something that is difficult to do well, as criticism of the comic relief moments in Argento’s films testifies. In Giallo, I think the key thing is that Brody, whose deadpan delivery of key lines relating to Enzo’s back-story elicited laughs from the audience I watched the film with, was also the film’s co-producer. As such, it seems unlikely that he and Argento had a disagreement about how to portray the character, as with a number of the director’s more fraught actor relationships, and that this was their intent.

In combination with Seigner’s involvement, the film thus emerges as something akin to Argento’s version of Polanski’s Bitter Moon, as something to be both taken seriously at times and as a self-parody at others in its commentary on past glories.

How less sympathetic audiences will get the joke is another matter…
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Old 10-03-2010, 05:21 PM   #2
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Will the disc contain the original (?!) English audio or just the Italian dub as some of the other Italian releases of Argento's films?

PS: Speaking of Argento - still no news regarding a BR release of LA TERZA MADRE? The French disc seems to have forced French subs which makes it an absolute no-go for me.

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Old 10-05-2010, 01:25 PM   #3
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Dvdland.it lists Giallo with English (DD 5.1) audio + 2 Italian audio tracks and Italian subs, so the English audio might be lossy. dvd.it has the same audio specs for it as well:
http://www.dvdland.it/nicom1/p_56943...o_blu_ray.html
http://blu-ray.dvd.it/thriller/giall...io/id-2974822/

I just pre-ordered Giallo from dvdland.it myself, been looking forward to seeing it.

There's a Japanese release of Mother of Tears coming out on December 8th: http://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B003YCKYXO/
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Old 10-19-2010, 01:40 AM   #4
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I am thinking of picking up the Thai DVD of Giallo. The only reason why I am considering it is because it's PAL format.
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Old 10-20-2010, 03:02 AM   #5
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Tuesday, October 19 2010, 9:14pm EDT

Adrien Brody is suing to stop the release of the movie Giallo, it has been reported.

The film, which is due to be released on DVD tomorrow, is an Italian horror picture directed by Dario Argento. It did not receive a theatrical release in American cinemas.

Brody claims that he was misled by the film’s producers, who allegedly lied to him to prevent him from walking off the set after Brody learned that the film was underfunded. Brody also claims that the producers failed to pay him.

According to the lawsuit filed last Thursday, Brody is asking for $3 million and attempting to prevent the film’s release, writes The Hollywood Reporter.
Actor's remorse?
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Old 11-09-2010, 07:24 PM   #6
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Nobody got this yet? I've got it on order but haven't received it yet. Curious as to the specs and quality.
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Old 11-14-2010, 06:54 AM   #7
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I got mine yesterday. The movie wasn't really my favorite from Argento... The picture has quite much grain (or noise?), especially in the dark scenes and sometimes the brightness is fluctuating around the sides of the image in some dark scenes. There's quite good amount of detail and colors are good. Unfortunately the English audio track is only 448 kbps DD 5.1 while there are 2 lossless Italian audio tracks. Region B locked. There are a couple of lines of Japanese dialogue with hardcoded Italian subs in the early part of the movie (those parts don't have any English subs). Not very much of that though and I had no problem with it since I understood it. It's not significant from the plot point of view. Later on there's some more Japanese with no Italian subs that gets translated since the protagonist doesn't understand it.







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Disc Title:     GIALLO
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Protection:     AACS
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Argento's absolute worst film and absolute worst blu-ray...
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Actor's remorse?
What a douche. Guys wins an Oscar like 20 years ago and all of a sudden he thinks that he can do whatever he wants. This guys has never done a good movie and is a weird looking mofo.
Wanted to see this because of Dario Argento NOT for big nose Brody.
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Adrien Brody wins battle to block US sale of Dario Argento's Giallo

http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2010/...llo?CMP=twt_fd

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Adrien Brody wins battle to block US sale of Dario Argento's Giallo

http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2010/...llo?CMP=twt_fd

I have the DVD for rent on my Blockbuster Q. Hopefully I get to see before this happens. Stupid Adrien Brody.
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it says Argento didn't like the producer's cuts.
he didn't even have final cut approval?
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You know, if the whole problem Brody had was not being paid, why didn't he sue for a percentage of the profits from the sales and rentals of GIALLO... you know, as opposed to stopping its release on DVD and Blu in the US and decreasing the money the movie would make, which would then go to him...

Hmm... seems like he chose poorly....
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Looks like it's been resolved...

http://www.dreadcentral.com/news/419...an-be-released

...That having been said, this movie is awful
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Giving it a second viewing last night i thought it was an ok film a decent little thriller; i liked Adrien Brody's cold selfish cop performance and he seemed to have fun playing the messy freaky killer too. The cinematography is a bit too generic but here and there there are some nice Argento moments like the opening, the flash back scenes and the ending.
Far from Argento's best movies from the 70's and 80's but still an entertaining movie.

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Hated this film...hated it! Big Argento fan but i could find almost nothing to praise in this film.
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I bought the French edition. It's only DD, but it was £4 delivered. Review link below:

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Giall...6/#UserReviews
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Has anyone tested the French blu-ray in a region A player?
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Has anyone tested the French blu-ray in a region A player?
Just tried and tested it in my multi-region player.

It's region-free, so buy with confidence, my good man.
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