The Dark Knight Rises (2012), is it aging well? - Blu-ray Forum

zen007 · 11-11-2022, 09:24 PM

In the Nolan Batman Trilogy, The Dark Knight (2008) and Batman Begins (2005) appear to have a relatively more following. The Dark Knight Rises (2012) usually comes in third.

Recently, I revisited the three films and appear to have enjoyed TDKR the most. Is the film aging relatively better? Potential reasons could be:

The transfer is better than the other two films
Batman Begins and The Dark Knight are now 17 and 15 years old respectively
Joker (2019) may have taken away the novelty factor of the Joker in The Dark Knight (still a powerful portrayal but now we have an equally good/interesting version in the 2019 film)
The Dark Knight Rises combines some of the best elements from both films - the League of Shadows is back
Bain's takeover of Gotham is relatively unique as you do not get to see such concepts in many films
Other interesting concepts include Batsman's escape from the pit
Miranda and Selina work better (at least for me) than Rachael
The film ties up the ends

zen007 · 11-11-2022, 09:52 PM

Based on my last viewing:

TDKR
TDK
BB

Hindustani · 11-12-2022, 01:01 AM

#1 - tdk

#2 - bb

#3 - tdkr

John1701D · 11-12-2022, 01:56 AM

It wasn't good then, so no. It's aging like milk.

J999 · 11-12-2022, 12:08 PM

It's aging fine. I think it's maybe not quite as good as Dark Knight (but not too far off either). Better than Begins. Pretty sure that's how I've always felt about it.

I will say I like Christian Bale much better as Bruce Wayne in this movie. Or maybe it's just how he's written. He's more troubled/obsessive in this one, which is how I tend to prefer Batman.

Cruel Angel · 11-12-2022, 12:15 PM

Same now as it was when the trilogy was completed: 2nd behind Batman Begins.

zen007 · 11-12-2022, 02:28 PM

Watched TDKR for the 2nd time this week. Besides the points mentioned in the OP, the action sequences, along with its associated drama & setting in the “occupied” Gotham, + the score give this film an edge.

Now I rate this film among the best action films of 21st century, along with likes of Casino Royale, Mad Max Fury Road, etc. (for overall experience of action, setting/location, drama during/related to action sequences, score during action sequences, etc.)

In the past, this gem remained in the shadows of TDK (elevated by Joker’s performance) but not anymore! TDKR is probably the best “Batman” (not Joker) film of the trilogy.

Gacivory · 11-12-2022, 04:24 PM

Didn’t like it then, like it less now.

drb999 · 11-12-2022, 05:12 PM

Still number 3. That said I really like it. It’s just not as good as the first two.

stvn1974 · 11-15-2022, 03:49 PM

One of the dumbest movies I have ever seen.

drush9999 · 11-15-2022, 08:21 PM

The trilogy is diminishing returns overall, it doesn't quite deliver on the excellence of Batman Begins.

Hindustani · 11-15-2022, 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John1701D

It wasn't good then, so no. It's aging like milk.

TDKR is always a "good' movie. although drawn out as a conclusion.

When previous 2 movies of trilogy reach cinematic perfection, you are asking too much of the 3rd one. TDKR never really stood a chance.

unlike SPIDERMAN, you knew SPIDERMAN 2 was gonna reach pertection as it will build on the original.

slumcat · 11-15-2022, 10:53 PM

It is vomitive trash.

Starman22 · 11-15-2022, 11:31 PM

#1: The Dark Knight
#2: The Dark Knight Rises
#3: Batman Begins

stvn1974 · 11-15-2022, 11:35 PM

I wonder if real CIA officers are stupid enough to put terrorists on a plane before removing their hoods to see who they are? I hated the Dark Knight and I knew as soon as this scene started that I was going to hate The Dark Knight Rises even more. It only gets dumber with each scene.

zen007 · 11-16-2022, 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stvn1974

I wonder if real CIA officers are stupid enough to put terrorists on a plane before removing their hoods to see who they are? I hated the Dark Knight and I knew as soon as this scene started that I was going to hate The Dark Knight Rises even more. It only gets dumber with each scene.

Those are cinematic conveniences (Why would Bane even need to be there to get such “information”?). The big picture here is the action sequence where you enjoy how Bane escapes from the plane on IMAX with Hans Zimmer's score in the background!

The discussion is mainly for those who like the 3 films and how they rate the 3rd one relatively based on their recent watch. You said that you do not like TDK too, so that is at least 2 out of 3 films that you don’t like.

kylor · 11-17-2022, 02:22 PM

Worst of the 3 for sure.

Batmon77 · 11-17-2022, 06:45 PM

Third.....but I enjoy seeing Anne Hathaway's Catwoman. Very good version of Selina.

zen007 · 11-19-2022, 01:23 PM

So far, it is good to see a lot of ppl put TDKR at either #1 or #2 … Like its name, its popularity is on the rise (expecting it to age relatively better esp. as the best action film of the series)!

Gizz · 11-19-2022, 01:52 PM

It's the worst one. I have seen it a couple of times and it only gets worse with every viewing.

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11-12-2022, 12:08 PM	#5
J999 Special Member Member since:Jun 2017 Location:Canada 4K collection:6 Blu-ray collection:350 DVD collection:400 Digital collection:110 iTunes collection:63	It's aging fine. I think it's maybe not quite as good as Dark Knight (but not too far off either). Better than Begins. Pretty sure that's how I've always felt about it. I will say I like Christian Bale much better as Bruce Wayne in this movie. Or maybe it's just how he's written. He's more troubled/obsessive in this one, which is how I tend to prefer Batman. Last edited by J999; 11-12-2022 at 02:26 PM.

11-12-2022, 02:28 PM	#7
zen007 Power Member Member since:Oct 2019 Location:Canada Trading Score:1	Watched TDKR for the 2nd time this week. Besides the points mentioned in the OP, the action sequences, along with its associated drama & setting in the “occupied” Gotham, + the score give this film an edge. Now I rate this film among the best action films of 21st century, along with likes of Casino Royale, Mad Max Fury Road, etc. (for overall experience of action, setting/location, drama during/related to action sequences, score during action sequences, etc.) In the past, this gem remained in the shadows of TDK (elevated by Joker’s performance) but not anymore! TDKR is probably the best “Batman” (not Joker) film of the trilogy. Last edited by zen007; 11-12-2022 at 03:22 PM.

11-11-2022, 09:24 PM	#1
zen007 Power Member Member since:Oct 2019 Location:Canada Trading Score:1	The Dark Knight Rises (2012), is it aging well? In the Nolan Batman Trilogy, The Dark Knight (2008) and Batman Begins (2005) appear to have a relatively more following. The Dark Knight Rises (2012) usually comes in third. Recently, I revisited the three films and appear to have enjoyed TDKR the most. Is the film aging relatively better? Potential reasons could be: The transfer is better than the other two films Batman Begins and The Dark Knight are now 17 and 15 years old respectively Joker (2019) may have taken away the novelty factor of the Joker in The Dark Knight (still a powerful portrayal but now we have an equally good/interesting version in the 2019 film) The Dark Knight Rises combines some of the best elements from both films - the League of Shadows is back Bain's takeover of Gotham is relatively unique as you do not get to see such concepts in many films Other interesting concepts include Batsman's escape from the pit Miranda and Selina work better (at least for me) than Rachael The film ties up the ends

11-11-2022, 09:52 PM	#2
zen007 Power Member Member since:Oct 2019 Location:Canada Trading Score:1	Based on my last viewing: TDKR TDK BB

11-12-2022, 01:01 AM	#3
Hindustani Blu-ray Guru Member since:Dec 2014	#1 - tdk #2 - bb #3 - tdkr Last edited by Hindustani; 11-12-2022 at 04:18 AM.

11-12-2022, 01:56 AM	#4
John1701D Blu-ray Count Member since:Mar 2011 Trading Score:9	It wasn't good then, so no. It's aging like milk.

11-12-2022, 12:15 PM	#6
Cruel Angel Blu-ray Prince Member since:Nov 2009 Location:San Antonio TX 4K collection:315 Blu-ray collection:1187 DVD collection:281	Same now as it was when the trilogy was completed: 2nd behind Batman Begins.

11-12-2022, 04:24 PM	#8
Gacivory Blu-ray Archduke Top contributor Member since:Apr 2016 Location:Los Angeles, California 4K collection:1121 Blu-ray collection:5612 DVD collection:183 Digital collection:25 Trading Score:1	Didn’t like it then, like it less now.

11-12-2022, 05:12 PM	#9
drb999 Blu-ray King Member since:Jul 2013 Location:Outer Space 4K collection:8 Blu-ray collection:707 DVD collection:57 MA collection:6 Digital collection:75 iTunes collection:1 Prime collection:1	Still number 3. That said I really like it. It’s just not as good as the first two.

11-15-2022, 03:49 PM	#10
stvn1974 Blu-ray Prince Member since:Jan 2012 Location:Earth Trading Score:18	One of the dumbest movies I have ever seen.

11-15-2022, 08:21 PM	#11
drush9999 Blu-ray Baron Top contributor Member since:Nov 2016 Location:Sutton Coldfield, England 4K collection:566 Blu-ray collection:6092 DVD collection:488 Trading Score:1	The trilogy is diminishing returns overall, it doesn't quite deliver on the excellence of Batman Begins.

11-15-2022, 10:53 PM	#13
slumcat Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jan 2009	It is vomitive trash.

11-15-2022, 11:31 PM	#14
Starman22 Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Jun 2010 Location:Texas 4K collection:- Blu-ray collection:- DVD collection:- MA collection:- Digital collection:- Trading Score:11	#1: The Dark Knight #2: The Dark Knight Rises #3: Batman Begins

11-15-2022, 11:35 PM	#15
stvn1974 Blu-ray Prince Member since:Jan 2012 Location:Earth Trading Score:18	I wonder if real CIA officers are stupid enough to put terrorists on a plane before removing their hoods to see who they are? I hated the Dark Knight and I knew as soon as this scene started that I was going to hate The Dark Knight Rises even more. It only gets dumber with each scene.

11-17-2022, 02:22 PM	#17
kylor Blu-ray Prince Member since:Jul 2015 Location:The past.. or the future. 4K collection:696 Blu-ray collection:7101 DVD collection:620 MA collection:1030 Digital collection:2058 Trading Score:3	Worst of the 3 for sure.

11-17-2022, 06:45 PM	#18
Batmon77 Blu-ray Baron Member since:Oct 2011 Location:New York City 4K collection:13 Blu-ray collection:428 DVD collection:1	Third.....but I enjoy seeing Anne Hathaway's Catwoman. Very good version of Selina.

11-19-2022, 01:23 PM	#19
zen007 Power Member Member since:Oct 2019 Location:Canada Trading Score:1	So far, it is good to see a lot of ppl put TDKR at either #1 or #2 … Like its name, its popularity is on the rise (expecting it to age relatively better esp. as the best action film of the series)!

11-19-2022, 01:52 PM	#20
Gizz Blu-ray Champion Member since:Mar 2012 Location:England Home Theater Gallery:7 4K collection:420 Blu-ray collection:1828 DVD collection:808 Digital collection:10 iTunes collection:340 Prime collection:151	It's the worst one. I have seen it a couple of times and it only gets worse with every viewing.

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