The Piano 4K UHD (Studio Canal)

[DAT_JB]

The Piano 4K Blu-ray

The Piano 4K Blu-ray


Interview with Jane Campion & Jan Chapman
Making of
25 Years On
Trailer
Featurette with Cinematographer Stuart Dryburgh
Featurette with Production Designer Andrew McAlpine
Featurette with Maori advisor Waihoroi Shortlan

Release on September 5

[Brian81]

I wonder how the encoding will be on this. If it ends up being a FIM joint I might go with it.

[GG88]

Surprised it took them this long after the Criterion considering how UHD friendly Studio Canal generally are and the recent publicity due to the Oscar buzz around The Power of the Dog

[minister_x]

So based on the extras it looks like it has the lengthy interview (~76 mins) that the original UK blu had, but the 25th anniversary blu dropped, however it drops the commentary all previous Studio Canal/Optimum releases - blu and DVD - had? Hopefully that's an oversight in the listed specs. Would be nice for Studio Canal to include all their previous extras for once...

Although that said, if it's an FiM encode, I won't care about the extras.

[andreasy969]

Originally Posted by minister_x

Although that said, if it's an FiM encode, I won't care about the extras.

As of today I doubt it, since it's not mentioned on their twitter yet - I checked the other day.

[MarkGubarenko]

Originally Posted by andreasy969

As of today I doubt it, since it's not mentioned on their twitter yet - I checked the other day.

well Studiocanal doesn't own rights for France, and most of their UK oriented releases are by FiM, so the chance is good.

But specs also dropped Dolby Vision (not only commentary)

[andreasy969]

Originally Posted by MarkGubarenko

well Studiocanal doesn't own rights for France, and most of their UK oriented releases are by FiM, so the chance is good.

But specs also dropped Dolby Vision (not only commentary)

No, chances aren't good IMO, since, as I said, FiM's twitter still doesn't mention anything about 'The Piano'. Opposed to Flatliners I'd like to add. And if the specs dropped DV, it's even less likely, so unless you want to contradict just for the sake of it, you might want to share where your optimism is coming from.

[Yami]

Originally Posted by andreasy969

unless you want to contradict just for the sake of it, you might want to share where your optimism is coming from.

I think he did, you know.

Originally Posted by MarkGubarenko

well Studiocanal doesn't own rights for France, and most of their UK oriented releases are by FiM

[Kyle15]

Originally Posted by andreasy969

No, chances aren't good IMO, since, as I said, FiM's twitter still doesn't mention anything about 'The Piano'. Opposed to Flatliners I'd like to add. And if the specs dropped DV, it's even less likely, so unless you want to contradict just for the sake of it, you might want to share where your optimism is coming from.

FiM doesn't drop hints on their Twitter for every film. Usually the bigger ones. I'd say The Piano would be one of those ones, but seeing as there's no post it either isn't and it's happening or it's not happening. I suppose next time Mr. M pops up one of us can ask and see if he can answer.

[andreasy969]

Originally Posted by Yami

I think he did, you know.

Well, I know that and I considered the IMO (un)likelihood knowing that FiM is possible. And he just gave another reason why it's not likely.

I considered the possibility of FiM myself before. But it was another SC Piano thread, because the same person creating the German one created a new UK SC Piano thread now. Why people do that I don't know.

[minister_x]

Going to be even more galling if the German SC release has the commentary (and/or DV) and the UK one doesn't. Presumably, there's a chance the discs are for both Germany and the UK - but obviously not guaranteed, given titles like Leon that are different despite both being SC.

[MarkGubarenko]

German site says that it will include DV

Extras
Audiokommentar von Jane Campion & Jan Chapman; Interview mit Jane Campion & Jan Chapman; Making of; 25 Jahre Das Piano; Interview mit Kameramann Stuart Dryburgh; Interview mit Setdesigner Andrew McAlpine; Interview mit Maori-Berater Waihoroi Shortland; Originaltrailer
Technische Angaben

Bild: 1,85:1 2160p/ Dolby Vision (UHD), 1,85:1 1080/24p Full HD (Blu-ray)
Sprachen/Ton: Deutsch (Stereo PCM), Englisch (5.1 DTS-HD MA), Hörfilmfassung für Sehbehinderte (Stereo DTS-HD MA
Untertitel: Deutsch, Deutsch für Hörgeschädigte, Englisch für Hörgeschädigte

Given the fact that it has English SDH - they can be same discs, and both have audiocommentary

Also does 'Interview mit Jane Campion & Jan Chapman' ever appeared anywhere? because it could easily be mistake and it's interview with 'Jane Campion and Amy Taubin' from criterion release, since all 2021 interviews appear on that disc also. So the only missing thing for Studiocanal will be short and 3 archival interviews.

[CelestialAgent]

Originally Posted by MarkGubarenko

Also does 'Interview mit Jane Campion & Jan Chapman' ever appeared anywhere?

Yes, it’s a 76 minute interview included on the 2014 Blu-ray and Optimum DVD release.

[minister_x]

Can be, but not guaranteed to be. Leon's UHD has English HoH subtitles in Germany, from Studio Canal, yet the UK release (also from Studio Canal) only has English audio/subtitles. Still no idea why that one wasn't dual-territory. Hopefully either this one is, or the UK set features the commentary and DV even if it's a separate disc encode.

[Tequila]

Very curious, hopefully someone here can get and confirm this.

[Jorvic]

Haven't seen this film for quite some time. Will likely order the 4K UHD soon.

[cirik]

I have a bad feeling about this...

Disc Label:     DAS_PIANO
Disc Size:      87,604,447,851 bytes
Protection:     AACS2
Extras:         Ultra HD, 50Hz Content
BDInfo:         0.7.5.6

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:                   00000.MPLS
Length:                 2:01:09.387 (h:m:s.ms)
Size:                   73,222,434,624 bytes
Total Bitrate:          80.58 Mbps

VIDEO:

Codec                   Bitrate             Description     
-----                   -------             -----------     
MPEG-H HEVC Video       54304 kbps          2160p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / Main 10 @ Level 5.1 @ High / 10 bits / HDR10 / BT.2020
* MPEG-H HEVC Video     12542 kbps          1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / Main 10 @ Level 5.1 @ High / 10 bits / Dolby Vision / BT.2020

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
LPCM Audio                      German          2304 kbps       2.0 / 48 kHz /  2304 kbps / 24-bit 
DTS-HD Master Audio             English         2890 kbps       5.1 / 48 kHz /  2890 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz /  1509 kbps / 24-bit)
LPCM Audio                      German          2304 kbps       2.0 / 48 kHz /  2304 kbps / 24-bit 
* LPCM Audio                    English         2304 kbps       2.0 / 48 kHz /  2304 kbps / 24-bit 

SUBTITLES:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Presentation Graphics           German          16.862 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           German          19.128 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           English         16.002 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           German           1.201 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           English          0.948 kbps                     
  * Presentation Graphics         German          42.918 kbps

[andreasy969]

We can eventually rule out FiM at any rate IMHO.

[minister_x]

Originally Posted by cirik

I have a bad feeling about this...

Disc Label:     DAS_PIANO
Disc Size:      87,604,447,851 bytes
Protection:     AACS2
Extras:         Ultra HD, 50Hz Content
BDInfo:         0.7.5.6

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:                   00000.MPLS
Length:                 2:01:09.387 (h:m:s.ms)
Size:                   73,222,434,624 bytes
Total Bitrate:          80.58 Mbps

VIDEO:

Codec                   Bitrate             Description     
-----                   -------             -----------     
MPEG-H HEVC Video       54304 kbps          2160p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / Main 10 @ Level 5.1 @ High / 10 bits / HDR10 / BT.2020
* MPEG-H HEVC Video     12542 kbps          1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / Main 10 @ Level 5.1 @ High / 10 bits / Dolby Vision / BT.2020

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
LPCM Audio                      German          2304 kbps       2.0 / 48 kHz /  2304 kbps / 24-bit 
DTS-HD Master Audio             English         2890 kbps       5.1 / 48 kHz /  2890 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz /  1509 kbps / 24-bit)
LPCM Audio                      German          2304 kbps       2.0 / 48 kHz /  2304 kbps / 24-bit 
* LPCM Audio                    English         2304 kbps       2.0 / 48 kHz /  2304 kbps / 24-bit 

SUBTITLES:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Presentation Graphics           German          16.862 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           German          19.128 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           English         16.002 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           German           1.201 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           English          0.948 kbps                     
  * Presentation Graphics         German          42.918 kbps

Can't do a BDInfo on the UK disc (yet), but I do love how Studio Canal presented an option I hadn't considered for the disc - almost the same as the German UHD disc but not identical, despite them both having English and German audio and subtitles! (Should have been obvious from the Disc Label, to be fair.)

Differences between the UK UHD and the BDInfo above:
1) There's no second German audio track (Audio Description, I assume) on the UK disc.
2) There's no German HoH subtitles - or German commentary subtitles - on the UK disc.
3) The UK disc is slightly larger (more like 88-89GB) and has no 50Hz content as far as I can tell.
4) The main stream is slightly smaller on the UK disc (~71GB compared to the German's 73GB) but this is presumably due to the dropped audio/subtitle tracks.

The UK disc definitely has a DV layer, so I'm guessing that it's the same as the German disc in that regard. Runtime is also the same, identical to the Criterion one (including the Criterion logo) after the 20-second Studio Canal logo. Included BD is 25th Anniversary one and has 576i content, but everything on the UHD is in 1080p/24 containers. Thankfully UK UHD has all the extras. Despite making no reference to the commentary on the back cover. Also UK slipcover highly desirable - someone decided to print the 4K UltraHD logo strip at the top of the case's inlay, despite the case itself having that logo at the top of the case (as you'd expect). So there's a black plastic 4K UltraHD logo at the top of the case, with an identical printed equivalent beneath it, and then the silver "4K UltraHD + Blu-ray" strip beneath that, wasting far more cover than necessary.

Full break down of UK specs: http://dvdcompare.net/comparisons/film.php?fid=60084

[barrett75]

looks like criterion has the usual roll-off of the high frequencies with SC holding natural look not being "noisier" as in The Circle Rouge. seems a nice job. that monsterous 12mbs DV layer bothers me so much but i'll buy it anyway.