House of Gucci 4K UHD (2021)

[Pieter V]

Cdon.dk

No special features and audio downgrades. Also No Time to Die (2021) got a disappointing release in Scandinavia.

[Moonloop]

Surprised at Sir Ridley allowing this kind of treatment . I wish the studios would make their minds up , UHD is either the 'Premium' format or it isn't ?? This was released with an Atmos track in cinemas so it's a bit ridiculous that they won't release it in 4K themselves but stymie a foreign release with a drop down 5.1 mix ......

Muppets!

M

[Hedrox]

Originally Posted by Pieter V

Also No Time to Die (2021) got a disappointing release in Scandinavia.

In what way exactly? It's the same Universal release that everyone else got.

[Pieter V]

Originally Posted by Hedrox

In what way exactly? It's the same Universal release that everyone else got.

You would think that yes. But BD-66, no special features in 2160p and no Dolby Vision either. Standard Blu-ray affected as well.

[Hedrox]

Originally Posted by Pieter V

You would think that yes. But BD-66, no special features in 2160p and no Dolby Vision either. Standard Blu-ray affected as well.

Interesting, first time hearing of a different NTTD disc.

On closer inspection neither this nor NTTD are Universal, as there's no Universal Pictures Home Entertainment logo anywhere on the back(unlike say Nobody). MGM titles are distributed by a "SF Studios" in Scandinavia and it seems the discs are produced by them as well.

[McCrutchy]

Originally Posted by Hedrox

Interesting, first time hearing of a different NTTD disc.

On closer inspection neither this nor NTTD are Universal, as there's no Universal Pictures Home Entertainment logo anywhere on the back(unlike say Nobody). MGM titles are distributed by a "SF Studios" in Scandinavia and it seems the discs are produced by them as well.

Universal is in the credit block and, if I recall correctly, their discs are now distributed by SF Studios.

Originally Posted by Pieter V

You would think that yes. But BD-66, no special features in 2160p and no Dolby Vision either. Standard Blu-ray affected as well.

That's bizarre. Any explanation from SF as to why they failed to use the Universal materials? I'm surprised that would even be allowed by Universal in the first place.

I don't even see Universal listed here, so I assume this is simply a domestic Scandinavian release from SF.

[DAT_JB]

Originally Posted by Pieter V

You would think that yes. But BD-66, no special features in 2160p and no Dolby Vision either. Standard Blu-ray affected as well.

Wow Scandinavian Films are really doing great..

[Hedrox]

Originally Posted by McCrutchy

Universal is in the credit block and, if I recall correctly, their discs are now distributed by SC Studios

Yes, the Universal logo is there because it was distributed by them theatrically, but the disc itself is not Universal, as there's no mention of them in the text at the very bottom(both on NTTD and House of Gucci).

Edit: Nevermind, I just checked and SF films distributed them theatrically as well, so not really sure what's going on.

[TheBondFan]

Can we expect a release in other countries ? (France, Germany, UK, ...)

[Hedrox]

Originally Posted by TheBondFan

Can we expect a release in other countries ? (France, Germany, UK, ...)

It would have gotten a 4K release in Germany for sure if it was a local distributor, but sadly it's Universal.

[andreasy969]

I actually pre-ordered this yesterday together with Copshop and another cheap item and think it's an upgrade over no 4K disc at all. Which appears to be the case with the US release for all I know for now.

[fbrighi]

In Italy it will be distribuited by Eagle Pictures, not Universal. Case is very similar to Addams Family 1 and 2 animation movie, so maybe a 4K edition will be issued for Italy. Finger crossed and let's wait for anouncement (here film arrived later in thetaers, middle of december).

[hansolo]

Originally Posted by McCrutchy

Universal is in the credit block and, if I recall correctly, their discs are now distributed by SF Studios.



That's bizarre. Any explanation from SF as to why they failed to use the Universal materials? I'm surprised that would even be allowed by Universal in the first place.

I don't even see Universal listed here, so I assume this is simply a domestic Scandinavian release from SF.

I read from Finnish forum one nonsense explanation SF gave to a customer who went through the trouble of contacting them. Retailer said that the question went all the way to MGM. Apparently this is what MGM Nordic/Europe? answered: "Dolby Vision was dropped from Nordic release because they opted for alternative (HDR10?) solution with better colors". Yeah, I know. Pathetic and just shows how the people responsible have no understanding of technical side of things what so ever. Real reason being make it as cheap as possible and maximize profit as long as possible. No doubt, many will buy it for full retail price. It's a new Bond film after all. I know, I did assuming it will be the same disc as in "international" version. As a side note 4K discs in Nordic Craig 4-film box were the same discs as in US version.

For anyone interested below is the BDinfo of Nordic release. Vanilla HDR10 encoded with even lower bitrate (on average ~8 Mbps lower) than the baselayer of other versions with DV. Reason no doubt that they could fit it to cheaper to manufacture BD66 disc. No extras at all, not even 2nd BD with extras. Chapter selection is the only "extra" . On positive side Atmos audio is included and seems to be 1:1 bit identical to other releases out there.

Disc Title: NO TIME TO DIE
Disc Size: 62,711,176,124 bytes
Protection: AACS2(v76)
Playlist: 00008.MPLS 
Size: 62,655,762,432 bytes
Length: 2:43:23.001
Total Bitrate: 51.13 Mbps
Video: MPEG-H HEVC Video / 42912 kbps / 2160p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / Main 10 @ Level 5.1 @ High / 4:2:0 / 10 bits / 1000nits / HDR10 / BT.2020
Audio: English / Dolby TrueHD/Atmos Audio / 7.1+11 objects / 48 kHz / 4140 kbps / 24-bit (AC3 Core: 5.1-EX / 48 kHz / 640 kbps)
Subtitle: Danish / 17.337 kbps 
Subtitle: Finnish / 18.176 kbps 
Subtitle: Norwegian / 16.841 kbps 
Subtitle: Swedish / 18.71 kbps

For comparison purposes BDinfo of German disc:

Disc Title:     NO TIME TO DIE

Disc Size:     98,852,059,042 bytes
Name:                   00040.MPLS
Length:                 2:43:33.803 (h:m:s.ms)
Size:                   83,773,286,400 bytes
Total Bitrate:          68.29 Mbps

VIDEO:

Codec                   Bitrate             Description   
-----                   -------             -----------   
MPEG-H HEVC Video       50871 kbps          2160p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / Main 10 @ Level 5.1 @ High / 4:2:0 / 10 bits / 1000nits / HDR10 / BT.2020
* MPEG-H HEVC Video     5717 kbps (10.10%)  1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / Main 10 @ Level 5.1 @ High / 4:2:0 / 10 bits / 1000nits / Dolby Vision FEL / BT.2020

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description   
-----                           --------        -------         -----------   
Dolby TrueHD/Atmos Audio        English         3505 kbps       7.1+11 objects / 48 kHz / 3057 kbps / 24-bit (AC3 Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 448 kbps)
Dolby TrueHD/Atmos Audio        German          3439 kbps       7.1+11 objects / 48 kHz / 2991 kbps / 16-bit (AC3 Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 448 kbps)

SUBTITLES:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description   
-----                           --------        -------         -----------   
Presentation Graphics           English         34.571 kbps                   
Presentation Graphics           German          27.83 kbps                   
Presentation Graphics           English         0.371 kbps                   
Presentation Graphics           German          0.793 kbps

[McCrutchy]

Originally Posted by hansolo

[Show spoiler]I read from Finnish forum one nonsense explanation SF gave to a customer who went through the trouble of contacting them. Retailer said that the question went all the way to MGM. Apparently this is what MGM Nordic/Europe? answered: "Dolby Vision was dropped from Nordic release because they opted for alternative (HDR10?) solution with better colors". Yeah, I know. Pathetic and just shows how the people responsible have no understanding of technical side of things what so ever. Real reason being make it as cheap as possible and maximize profit as long as possible. No doubt, many will buy it for full retail price. It's a new Bond film after all. I know, I did assuming it will be the same disc as in "international" version. As a side note 4K discs in Nordic Craig 4-film box were the same discs as in US version.

For anyone interested below is the BDinfo of Nordic release. Vanilla HDR10 encoded with even lower bitrate (on average ~8 Mbps lower) than the baselayer of other versions with DV. Reason no doubt that they could fit it to cheaper to manufacture BD66 disc. No extras at all, not even 2nd BD with extras. Chapter selection is the only "extra" . On positive side Atmos audio is included and seems to be 1:1 bit identical to other releases out there.

Disc Title: NO TIME TO DIE
Disc Size: 62,711,176,124 bytes
Protection: AACS2(v76)
Playlist: 00008.MPLS 
Size: 62,655,762,432 bytes
Length: 2:43:23.001
Total Bitrate: 51.13 Mbps
Video: MPEG-H HEVC Video / 42912 kbps / 2160p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / Main 10 @ Level 5.1 @ High / 4:2:0 / 10 bits / 1000nits / HDR10 / BT.2020
Audio: English / Dolby TrueHD/Atmos Audio / 7.1+11 objects / 48 kHz / 4140 kbps / 24-bit (AC3 Core: 5.1-EX / 48 kHz / 640 kbps)
Subtitle: Danish / 17.337 kbps 
Subtitle: Finnish / 18.176 kbps 
Subtitle: Norwegian / 16.841 kbps 
Subtitle: Swedish / 18.71 kbps

For comparison purposes BDinfo of German disc:

Disc Title:     NO TIME TO DIE

Disc Size:     98,852,059,042 bytes
Name:                   00040.MPLS
Length:                 2:43:33.803 (h:m:s.ms)
Size:                   83,773,286,400 bytes
Total Bitrate:          68.29 Mbps

VIDEO:

Codec                   Bitrate             Description   
-----                   -------             -----------   
MPEG-H HEVC Video       50871 kbps          2160p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / Main 10 @ Level 5.1 @ High / 4:2:0 / 10 bits / 1000nits / HDR10 / BT.2020
* MPEG-H HEVC Video     5717 kbps (10.10%)  1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / Main 10 @ Level 5.1 @ High / 4:2:0 / 10 bits / 1000nits / Dolby Vision FEL / BT.2020

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description   
-----                           --------        -------         -----------   
Dolby TrueHD/Atmos Audio        English         3505 kbps       7.1+11 objects / 48 kHz / 3057 kbps / 24-bit (AC3 Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 448 kbps)
Dolby TrueHD/Atmos Audio        German          3439 kbps       7.1+11 objects / 48 kHz / 2991 kbps / 16-bit (AC3 Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 448 kbps)

SUBTITLES:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description   
-----                           --------        -------         -----------   
Presentation Graphics           English         34.571 kbps                   
Presentation Graphics           German          27.83 kbps                   
Presentation Graphics           English         0.371 kbps                   
Presentation Graphics           German          0.793 kbps

Wow, that is almost unbelievable. Thanks for the info.

[Blu Cider]

Retailing for about 45 USD here in Denmark. Hopefully the price comes down a bit before release. If time permits, I'll grab this and compare it to the 4K iTunes stream. This being an SF Film joint I'm not very optimistic.

[nissling]

Originally Posted by hansolo

On positive side Atmos audio is included and seems to be 1:1 bit identical to other releases out there.

I read on Swedish forum Minhembio that at least two users have had issues with the sync, with it being very obvious at the gun barrel shot. Adding aprox 2 frames of latency to the audio (83ms) seem to have fixed it. However I don't own this release myself and therefore I cannot confirm whether or not this is an actual issue on the disc.

[Gojira-96x]

23rd MARCH from Eagle Pictures

Steelbook Edition.

It will came out also in amaray.


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[TheBondFan]

Originally Posted by Gojira-96x

23rd MARCH from Eagle Pictures

Steelbook Edition.

It will came out also in amaray.


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Where did you see that ?

[Gojira-96x]

Originally Posted by TheBondFan

Where did you see that ?

Confirmed by DVD-Store

[Gojira-96x]

Amaray :

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