The Human Condition (1959-1961) - Blu-ray Forum

Dailyan · 03-15-2021, 04:27 PM

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Special Features

On the Blu-ray: High-definition digital restoration, with uncompressed monaural (Parts 1–4) and 4.0 surround DTS-HD Master Audio (Parts 5 and 6) soundtracks
On the DVD: Restored high-definition digital transfer
Excerpt from a 1993 Directors Guild of Japan interview with director Masaki Kobayashi, conducted by filmmaker Masahiro Shinoda
Interview from 2009 with actor Tatsuya Nakadai
Appreciation of Kobayashi and The Human Condition from 2009 featuring Shinoda
Trailers
PLUS: An essay by critic Philip Kemp

Cover design by Sarah Habibi, calligraphy by Akiko Crowther

DukeTogo84 · 03-15-2021, 04:30 PM

ARRRGGHH!!!! Finally!

edmoney · 03-15-2021, 06:05 PM

I notice that the Criterion uses 4.0 surround DTS-HD Master Audio for disc 3, while the Arrow uses 2.0 stereo. Does anyone know the story behind this and which is correct? Since the film came out before the days of Dolby stereo, I assume the Arrow track isn't matrixed stereo and therefore only uses 2 channels.

Joseph Goodman · 03-15-2021, 07:06 PM

Parts 5 & 6 were released with four-track magnetic sound prints, i.e. basically 35mm prints striped with magnetic audio (left, center, right, and mono rear).

From an article in Japanese I found:

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It was 4 years after the introduction of wide screen that magnetic 3D sound was introduced in earnest in Japanese movies, 1961 (Showa 36). This is in "A Soldier's Prayer Complete Edition (Parts 5 and 6)" (Director Masaki Kobayashi) released on January 28th.

Dubstar · 03-15-2021, 07:45 PM

DukeTogo84 · 03-15-2021, 07:59 PM

Best news for a title this year for me at least. Still in pretty excited as I never got the Arrow release.

edmoney · 03-15-2021, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Joseph Goodman

Parts 5 & 6 were released with four-track magnetic sound prints, i.e. basically 35mm prints striped with magnetic audio (left, center, right, and mono rear).

From an article in Japanese I found:

Interesting. Do you happen to know if the Arrow 2.0 track is matrixed (i.e. when decoded, unfolds out into 4 channels)?

Joseph Goodman · 03-15-2021, 08:52 PM

I have no idea about the Arrow disc.

beamish13 · 03-15-2021, 09:02 PM

Saw all 10+ hours of this in 35mm over the course of a single day. Jesus, what an experience. Essential purchase.

DukeTogo84 · 03-15-2021, 09:06 PM

The first time I watched this was with the Criterion DVD release. It during the summer and it was one of my the most beautiful days to go outside. Yet, I watched all three films in a single day. It was nuts. My then fiancee soon left me and one of her arguments was remember that day you spent watching three films back to back? Yes, I sure do.

UnbelievableMontages · 03-15-2021, 09:16 PM

Another blow to my wallet, somebody stop Criterion!

DaveyJoe · 03-15-2021, 09:17 PM

One of the best films not yet on BD here in the States, I'll happily upgrade my DVD in July.

UnbelievableMontages · 03-15-2021, 09:33 PM

Only $59.95? It'll easily be $30 on the 50% off B&N July sale. A major steal, definitely getting this.

BobbyMcGee · 03-15-2021, 09:40 PM

Already own the Criterion DVD set and the Arrow Blu-ray set. But, I am a huge fan of these films so the Criterion Blu-ray set is a must have for me.

DukeTogo84 · 03-15-2021, 09:51 PM

I also literally e-mailed Criterion about this maybe two months ago. One of the very few titles I've suggested that they upgrade that actually worked out.

TravisTylerBlack · 03-15-2021, 11:21 PM

Have been holding back on importing the Arrow edition for a long time but will likely pick this one up during the next sale. One of many long overdue upgrades from Criterion.

Guessing this will likely be a digipack?

DukeTogo84 · 03-15-2021, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by TravisTylerBlack

Have been holding back on importing the Arrow edition for a long time but will likely pick this one up during the next sale. One of many long overdue upgrades from Criterion.

Guessing this will likely be a digipack?

It might be, but Criterion might just put in a bunch of discs in a case similar to the three Samurai films.

ztjbluray · 03-16-2021, 01:26 AM

Very excited to see this! I saw the film(s) last year and was blown away...Been looking for a sealed Arrow box set ever since, but have yet to find one. I was hoping Criterion would get around to doing a Blu-ray release eventually. I wonder if we'll see a Samurai Rebellion release in the future?

Ray Jackson · 03-16-2021, 01:27 AM

I’m gonna buy the f@#k outta this thing!!!!

...just in time for the Barnes sale.

ztjbluray · 03-16-2021, 04:16 AM

Just noticed the black strip on the bottom of the cover art...I hope that's not there in the final product.

03-15-2021, 04:30 PM	#2
DukeTogo84 Blu-ray Archduke Top contributor Member since:Aug 2012 Location:California 4K collection:155 Blu-ray collection:4931 Blu-ray reviews: 62 Trading Score:138	ARRRGGHH!!!! Finally!

03-15-2021, 06:05 PM	#3
edmoney Senior Member Member since:Jun 2014 Location:New Jersey, USA Trading Score:1	I notice that the Criterion uses 4.0 surround DTS-HD Master Audio for disc 3, while the Arrow uses 2.0 stereo. Does anyone know the story behind this and which is correct? Since the film came out before the days of Dolby stereo, I assume the Arrow track isn't matrixed stereo and therefore only uses 2 channels.

03-15-2021, 07:45 PM	#5
Dubstar Blu-ray Prince Top contributor Member since:Jun 2008 Location:down at Fraggle Rock Home Theater Gallery:1 4K collection:201 Blu-ray collection:1953 DVD collection:304 MA collection:4 Digital collection:33 Trading Score:29

03-15-2021, 07:59 PM	#6
DukeTogo84 Blu-ray Archduke Top contributor Member since:Aug 2012 Location:California 4K collection:155 Blu-ray collection:4931 Blu-ray reviews: 62 Trading Score:138	Best news for a title this year for me at least. Still in pretty excited as I never got the Arrow release.

03-15-2021, 08:52 PM	#8
Joseph Goodman Active Member Member since:Oct 2008	I have no idea about the Arrow disc.

03-15-2021, 09:02 PM	#9
beamish13 Power Member Member since:May 2017	Saw all 10+ hours of this in 35mm over the course of a single day. Jesus, what an experience. Essential purchase.

03-15-2021, 09:06 PM	#10
DukeTogo84 Blu-ray Archduke Top contributor Member since:Aug 2012 Location:California 4K collection:155 Blu-ray collection:4931 Blu-ray reviews: 62 Trading Score:138	The first time I watched this was with the Criterion DVD release. It during the summer and it was one of my the most beautiful days to go outside. Yet, I watched all three films in a single day. It was nuts. My then fiancee soon left me and one of her arguments was remember that day you spent watching three films back to back? Yes, I sure do.

03-15-2021, 09:16 PM	#11
UnbelievableMontages Special Member Member since:Oct 2017 Trading Score:34	Another blow to my wallet, somebody stop Criterion!

03-15-2021, 09:17 PM	#12
DaveyJoe Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Jul 2014 Location:Maryland 4K collection:553 Blu-ray collection:3920 Trading Score:2	One of the best films not yet on BD here in the States, I'll happily upgrade my DVD in July.

03-15-2021, 09:33 PM	#13
UnbelievableMontages Special Member Member since:Oct 2017 Trading Score:34	Only $59.95? It'll easily be $30 on the 50% off B&N July sale. A major steal, definitely getting this.

03-15-2021, 09:40 PM	#14
BobbyMcGee Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Oct 2012 Location:Los Angeles, CA 4K collection:500 Blu-ray collection:4495 Trading Score:361	Already own the Criterion DVD set and the Arrow Blu-ray set. But, I am a huge fan of these films so the Criterion Blu-ray set is a must have for me.

03-15-2021, 09:51 PM	#15
DukeTogo84 Blu-ray Archduke Top contributor Member since:Aug 2012 Location:California 4K collection:155 Blu-ray collection:4931 Blu-ray reviews: 62 Trading Score:138	I also literally e-mailed Criterion about this maybe two months ago. One of the very few titles I've suggested that they upgrade that actually worked out.

03-15-2021, 11:21 PM	#16
TravisTylerBlack Blu-ray Guru Member since:Nov 2014 Location:Los Angeles, CA 4K collection:508 Blu-ray collection:3301	Have been holding back on importing the Arrow edition for a long time but will likely pick this one up during the next sale. One of many long overdue upgrades from Criterion. Guessing this will likely be a digipack?

03-16-2021, 01:26 AM	#18
ztjbluray Junior Member Member since:Dec 2020 Location:Mississauga, Ontario 4K collection:2 Blu-ray collection:35 DVD collection:608	Very excited to see this! I saw the film(s) last year and was blown away...Been looking for a sealed Arrow box set ever since, but have yet to find one. I was hoping Criterion would get around to doing a Blu-ray release eventually. I wonder if we'll see a Samurai Rebellion release in the future?

03-16-2021, 01:27 AM	#19
Ray Jackson Blu-ray Duke Member since:Apr 2013 Location:The dark underbelly of Anytown, USA 4K collection:102 Blu-ray collection:455 DVD collection:9 Digital collection:74 Trading Score:183	I’m gonna buy the f@#k outta this thing!!!! ...just in time for the Barnes sale.

03-16-2021, 04:16 AM	#20
ztjbluray Junior Member Member since:Dec 2020 Location:Mississauga, Ontario 4K collection:2 Blu-ray collection:35 DVD collection:608	Just noticed the black strip on the bottom of the cover art...I hope that's not there in the final product.

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