Men Behind the Sun 4K UHD (1988) - Blu-ray Forum

brainofj72 · 08-14-2020, 07:57 PM

Wow, here’s one I never expected. Looks like Massacre Video is jumping into the UHD market. Check out the logo on the spine (warning: graphic cover art): https://twitter.com/MassacreVideo/st...143137793?s=20

This is probably the most disturbing movie I’ve ever seen and I was already excited for the BD, but this is even better!

Ben_C · 08-14-2020, 07:59 PM

And yet another company gets in the game ahead of Criterion.

dallywhitty · 08-14-2020, 08:04 PM

One of those infamous titles I've been meaning to see for years.

MechaGodzilla · 08-15-2020, 02:42 AM

Now this is podracing!

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Originally Posted by dallywhitty

One of those infamous titles I've been meaning to see for years.

Same, and I can't believe I held off for so long a UHD release was announced before I got around to seeing it.

Scottishguy · 08-14-2020, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Ben_C

And yet another company gets in the game ahead of Criterion.

I guess one issue as has been evidenced by the Friday The 13th boxset. Is certain licences might be harder to obtain for UHD.

Though I don't exactly see what was the pressing issue with The Elephant Man.

sonicyogurt · 08-14-2020, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Scottishguy

Though I don't exactly see what was the pressing issue with The Elephant Man.

Paramount reportedly isn’t licensing physical UHD rights to anyone.

Scottishguy · 08-14-2020, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by sonicyogurt

Paramount reportedly isn’t licensing physical UHD rights to anyone.

Aye that's the one. And if they don't come good on Ghost and Airplane. Then that's pretty telling of their own intent.

Mister_Kidd · 08-14-2020, 08:28 PM

Never heard of this, so I was just reading about it. Not too sure I can hang.

brainofj72 · 08-14-2020, 08:33 PM

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Never heard of this, so I was just reading about it. Not too sure I can hang.

Yeah, I’d approach this one with caution if you’re not into this kind of stuff. It’s about as extreme as they come.

mikesncc1701 · 08-14-2020, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by brainofj72

Wow, here’s one I never expected. Looks like Massacre Video is jumping into the UHD market. Check out the logo on the spine (warning: graphic cover art): https://twitter.com/MassacreVideo/st...143137793?s=20

This is probably the most disturbing movie I’ve ever seen and I was already excited for the BD, but this is even better!

Yeah I pointed that out on their FB post a little while ago. Never seen this all the way through but will buy to support UHD.

Ben_C · 08-14-2020, 09:06 PM

In the comments section accompanying the original blu-ray announcement there’s mention of some quite horrible sounding animal cruelty in this.
Cruelty to humans is one thing, but cruelty to cats is something I definitely wouldn’t be able to stomach.

fuzzymctiger · 08-15-2020, 01:27 AM

As much as I want to support every boutique label getting into UHD, I think this is going to have to be a try before I buy.

I’ve heard many things about this, not many pleasant

JohnCarpenterLives · 08-16-2020, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Ben_C

In the comments section accompanying the original blu-ray announcement there’s mention of some quite horrible sounding animal cruelty in this.
Cruelty to humans is one thing, but cruelty to cats is something I definitely wouldn’t be able to stomach.

The animal cruelty is STILL debated with the director saying no animals were harmed.

Ill_Be_Back · 08-16-2020, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnCarpenterLives

The animal cruelty is STILL debated with the director saying no animals were harmed.

I personally don't believe the director and that quoted throwaway line. He obviously didn't want to come under fire so he tacked on that stupid fish comment. I doubt the cat lived past production.

Dankk · 08-17-2020, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Ill_Be_Back

I personally don't believe the director and that quoted throwaway line. He obviously didn't want to come under fire so he tacked on that stupid fish comment. I doubt the cat lived past production.

Yup. Haven't watched the movie for myself yet, but between T.F. Mou being extremely cagey in early interviews (basically avoiding questions about animal abuse), and then a blog post from 2008 where one of the film's crew members flat out states that the prop-master kills the cat on set, I'm going to go ahead and say that yes, they actually killed the cat.

It wasn't until much later when Mou finally stated something like, "Oh, the cat was totally fine and then we gave him fish as a reward!" presumably as a way of just covering his butt and shutting down any further questioning. Are people really just suddenly going to take him for his word?

As much as I dislike it, that's what I think happened, and I totally understand why. This was China in the 80's. their "VFX" industry was non-existent, and people could also get away with a lot of crazy stuff that they couldn't today. Killing a cat to help make a movie seems like it would be simple thing to do back then.

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Theres still photos of them applying the honey, so youre wrong.

Source? I don't doubt that honey is being used, but I'm sure they are applying it to a dead cat.

Anyway, I don't mean to derail the conversation. I actually do want to view this movie at some point. I'm not into shock stuff at all, but I think Men Behind The Sun is kind of different in that the filmmaker was clearly passionate about something, and he wanted to make a point. The Japanese did some absolutely awful things during WWII. I will likely pick this up, but I have to make sure I'm mentally prepared to watch it.

bradnoyes · 08-15-2020, 03:38 AM

Nice addition to the format but I think I'll pass, as well. I didn't know this movie existed but I've read enough about Unit 731 to know I don't really need to see a movie about it.

agenda · 08-15-2020, 05:01 AM

I can't open the twitter with my mobile device. Where is the STANDARD Blu-ray from this like they announced it in the first place??? Is this a combo? I don't own 4K set and I couldn't care less about uhd.

brainofj72 · 08-15-2020, 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by agenda

I can't open the twitter with my mobile device. Where is the STANDARD Blu-ray from this like they announced it in the first place??? Is this a combo? I don't own 4K set and I couldn't care less about uhd.

There’s no way they’d JUST do UHD. I’m sure it’ll be a combo if it’s only one release.

agenda · 08-15-2020, 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by brainofj72

There’s no way they’d JUST do UHD. I’m sure it’ll be a combo if it’s only one release.

I sure as hell hope so. Feels like you just can't be 100% sure for anything any more. Why in the hell they didn't tell the status about it now at the same time?? Annoying little things like that are becoming like some kind of a virus in the business more and more these days at the announcements.

Scottishguy · 08-15-2020, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by agenda

I can't open the twitter with my mobile device. Where is the STANDARD Blu-ray from this like they announced it in the first place??? Is this a combo? I don't own 4K set and I couldn't care less about uhd.

08-14-2020, 07:57 PM	#1
brainofj72 Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Dec 2009 Location:USA 4K collection:1031 Blu-ray collection:3606 DVD collection:817 Digital collection:150 iTunes collection:140 Trading Score:152	Men Behind the Sun 4K UHD (1988) Wow, here’s one I never expected. Looks like Massacre Video is jumping into the UHD market. Check out the logo on the spine (warning: graphic cover art): https://twitter.com/MassacreVideo/st...143137793?s=20 This is probably the most disturbing movie I’ve ever seen and I was already excited for the BD, but this is even better!

08-14-2020, 07:59 PM	#2
Ben_C Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Mar 2015 Location:UK 4K collection:664 Blu-ray collection:3305	And yet another company gets in the game ahead of Criterion.

08-14-2020, 08:04 PM	#3
dallywhitty Blu-ray Grand Duke Top contributor Member since:Aug 2009 Location:Temple of Isis 4K collection:319 Blu-ray collection:1679 DVD collection:178	One of those infamous titles I've been meaning to see for years.

08-14-2020, 08:28 PM	#8
Mister_Kidd Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jun 2019 Location:Chicago Home Theater Gallery:4 4K collection:210 Blu-ray collection:769 DVD collection:299	Never heard of this, so I was just reading about it. Not too sure I can hang.

08-14-2020, 09:06 PM	#11
Ben_C Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Mar 2015 Location:UK 4K collection:664 Blu-ray collection:3305	In the comments section accompanying the original blu-ray announcement there’s mention of some quite horrible sounding animal cruelty in this. Cruelty to humans is one thing, but cruelty to cats is something I definitely wouldn’t be able to stomach.

08-15-2020, 01:27 AM	#12
fuzzymctiger Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Aug 2012 Location:Melbourne, Australia 4K collection:230 Blu-ray collection:1203 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:2	As much as I want to support every boutique label getting into UHD, I think this is going to have to be a try before I buy. I’ve heard many things about this, not many pleasant

08-15-2020, 03:38 AM	#16
bradnoyes Blu-ray Knight Member since:Dec 2016 4K collection:775 Blu-ray collection:816 Trading Score:255	Nice addition to the format but I think I'll pass, as well. I didn't know this movie existed but I've read enough about Unit 731 to know I don't really need to see a movie about it.

08-15-2020, 05:01 AM	#17
agenda Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jun 2018	I can't open the twitter with my mobile device. Where is the STANDARD Blu-ray from this like they announced it in the first place??? Is this a combo? I don't own 4K set and I couldn't care less about uhd.

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