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Old 05-14-2018, 01:48 PM   #1
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Default What player does HDR to SDR best

I have been buying 4k UHD titles for atmos but currently I am running a BenQ HT2050 1080p projector and using my Xbox One S as a player. On some titles the colors are way off. I will be getting a faux 4k project soon (leaning towards the Epson 5040ub) but was curious of the 4k UHD players that are out there right now which one does HDR to SDR conversion the best?
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Old 05-14-2018, 02:10 PM   #2
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UB900 right now. If you can wait two months, UB820 will be out.
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Old 05-14-2018, 02:26 PM   #3
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UB900 right now. If you can wait two months, UB820 will be out.
Thank you for the replay. I think I can way for the UB820!
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Old 05-14-2018, 05:01 PM   #4
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UB900 right now. If you can wait two months, UB820 will be out.
Do we know of the UB820 will be as adapt at this? I’m new to all this and I need a player good at down converting so I can see the remastered transfers for Die Hard, Jurassic Park, Mission Impossible, etc. basically all the 4K releases that don’t include a new bluray.
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Old 05-14-2018, 05:33 PM   #5
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I'm having zero problems and excellent results with my Oppo and my 1080p projector.
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I'm getting excellent results with my Oppo 203/Sony 45es combo. I watched Deadpool using the 4k disc over the weekend and it was a tad sharper than the 1080p. Well worth it for the awesome Atmos track too.
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Old 05-14-2018, 07:36 PM   #7
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Thanks for the Oppo feedback. I watched The Greatest Showman on my Xbox One S and for the most part the movie looked good but I would say in about 20% of the scenes the skin tones were this crazy orange color. I need to go back to the same scenes on Blu-Ray and see the differences.
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Old 05-14-2018, 08:09 PM   #8
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I'm getting excellent results with my Oppo 203/Sony 45es combo. I watched Deadpool using the 4k disc over the weekend and it was a tad sharper than the 1080p. Well worth it for the awesome Atmos track too.
Even so 203/205 still has the gamma curves (HDR > SDR) to correct per feedback on AVS. Its a good start though.
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Old 05-14-2018, 09:49 PM   #9
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The Xbox One X does a pretty good job.

My friend has a 4K non-HDR TV and I put in the Justice League 4K and it still looked fantastic.
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Old 05-15-2018, 12:30 PM   #10
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I own a 43" Sony W800C 1080p LED TV (only 2.5 years old). It was a top o' the line 1080p at the time, and the problem was that in Australia, there were no 4K TVs that small yet (I needed a 43"), and HDR was only available on the most expensive models (and UHD BD was still on the horizon).
I'm glad I waited.

My current Sony 800C Sony 1080p TV: https://www.sony.com.au/electronics/...d-/kdl-43w800c

I want to get a few more years out of this TV before I go 4K (and I am hoping that OLED will go as small as 43").
I need a 43" since my TV unit will not fit a TV any bigger
AND as I sit approx. 2m away from the screen, I am very happy with the viewing size (I always sit towards the back of movie theatres anyhow).

I have been future proofing and I have 40 UHD movies and I would like to play HEVC transfers on my 1080p Sony TV, since a UHD player should downscale to 1080p/24 when it recognises that it is not attached to a 4K TV since some HEVC transfers are better than their MPEG-2/AVC/VC-1 counterparts... (Eg. Blade Runner ).

Q. If I buy a Sony UHD player for 1080p viewing, do I need to get one that has a HDR-SDR converter for a 1080p TV? Will the HDR output be an issue?

1. It looks like the UBP-X800 has a converter, but the UBP-X700 doesn't (not stated in specs).
2. It also bothers me that BD-RE is not on the list of discs that the 800 can play, but it is on the 700 (I have a number of BD-RE discs I have made using my Blu-Ray Disc Recorder).
3. I would like to buy the 700, since it will have a Dolby Vision upgrade and it is 3kg lighter! (I was planning on placing my Panasonic BD Recorder and UHD player on top of one another due to space constraints).


Note: I plan to output the Audio via HDMI to a Yamaha HT and the Video via HDMI direct to the TV... Will that also cause any complications.

If anyone out there could confirm if I will run into any issues with the HDR/SDR concerns AND splitting the audio/video, I would appreciate it.
* I assume getting the 800 would be the go.


UBP X800 Specs: https://www.sony.com.au/electronics/...specifications

UBP X700 Specs: https://www.sony.com.au/electronics/...specifications
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My setup handles the conversion fine, only UHD that kinda looked wrong was Van Helsing. What I notice over bluray is small uptick in detail, colors are sliiiiightly more vibrant at times, and the image does not look as 'flat' if that makes sense. The Mummy is a good example could tell when the HDR was kicking in, still noticeable in SDR
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Old 05-17-2018, 04:34 PM   #12
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I think I may end up going with the Oppo 203 only because I cant seem to find a multi region option to the UB900 and I have movies from other regions and want to be able to always purchase multi region titles.
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Any new consensus on the ub820 vs the Oppo 203 for output to a 1080p TV in 2023?
Any newer players to consider?
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Old 11-22-2023, 08:34 PM   #15
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Since Doly Vision won't be needed I recommend this player. Every UHD I play to my Sony 1080P TV looks great on it. The Sony X700 I found made Disney films really dark, not a problem with the Panasonic.

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Panasonic...0&from=/search
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Old 11-22-2023, 11:06 PM   #16
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Any new consensus on the ub820 vs the Oppo 203 for output to a 1080p TV in 2023?
Any newer players to consider?
No player does it well enough. Might as well watch regular Blu-ray.
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