Lars von Trier - L'integrale - Fnac exclusive Nov 7th

[Jeremy2882]

Fnac has posted a listing for an upcoming complete Lars von Trier set to be release in November from Potemkine as a Fnac exclusive. The list of extras is enormous. Here's hoping that the French subtitles are removable and that Potemkine doesn't screw up the encoding!

https://www.fnac.com/a18380042/Lars-...omnsearchpos=1

[yukito]

In lyon, the city where cinema was born, there is a retrospective in 2 parts with the same movies on the big screen.

[Nitroes]

Also @ Potemkine https://store.potemkine.fr/dvd/35450...ars-von-trier/

Contient :
- "Element of Crime"
- "Epidemic"
- "Europa"
- "Breaking the Waves"
- "Les Idiots"
- "Dancer in the Dark"
- "Dogville"
- "Five Obstructions"
- "Manderlay"
- "Le Direktør"
- "Antichrist"
- "Melancholia"
- "Nymphomaniac" (Director's Cut)
- "The House That Jack Built"
- 2 Blu-ray de bonus

Element of Crime
Commentaire audio de Lars von Trier, du directeur de la photographie Tom Elling et du monteur Tomas Gislason (VOST)
Commentaire audio de Peter Schepelern et Stig Bjorkman, spécialistes de Lars Von Trier (VOST)
"Innenstadt Europa, Lars Von Trier" (30', VOST)
"Le storyboard de The Element of Crime" avec Tom Elling
Anecdotes sur The Element of Crime (19', VOST)

Epidemic
Commentaire audio de Lars Von Trier et Niels Vorsel (VOST)
Anecdotes sur Epidemic (17', VOST)
"From Dreyer to von Trier"

Europa
Commentaire audio de Lars von Trier et du producteur Peter Aalbaek Jensen (VOST)
Commentaire audio de Lars von Trier, Jean-Marc Barr et Udo Kier (VOST)
Making of (38', VOST)
Anecdotes sur Europa (20', VOST)
La musique de Europa
Lars von Trier, anecdotes
Conversation entre Lars von Trier et Bo Green Jensen sur la trilogie "Europa"

Breaking the Waves
Scènes coupées commentées + clip promotionnel réalisé pour le festival de Cannes 1996 (11'32", VOST)
Hommage à Katrin Cartlidge (1'11")
Interview d'Adrian Rawlins (2'09", VOST)
Casting commenté d'Emily Watson (2'05", VOST)

Les Idiots
Clip : "Lars von Trier & The Idiot All Stars: You're a Lady"
"My Kingdom For a Dogma" de Yves Montmayeur
"Retour sur Les Idiots" de Erik Lennart Petersen

Dancer in the Dark
"Von Trier's 100 Eyes" : making of de Katia Forbert (60', VOST)

Dogville
Commentaire audio de Lars Von Trier et du dir. photo Antony Dod Mantle (VOST)
"Dogville: The Pilot"
"Dogville Confessions" : making of de Sami Saif (50')
"Trier, Kidman et Cannes" : documentaire (23')
Interviews :
- Lars von Trier (2 interviews)
- Nicole Kidman (2 interviews)
- Stellan Skarsgård
- Anders Refn (assistant réalisateur)
- Vibeke Windeløv (producteur)
"Confessions inédites" : 6 semaines de confessions (17')
Les effets spéciaux commentés par Peter Hjorth, responsable des effets
Conferences de presse :
- Trollhättan 2003
- Festival de Cannes 2003
- Festival de Cannes 2003 (rencontre avec la presse danoise)
"Le féminin chez Lars von Trier" par Virginie Apiou

Five Obstructions
"Dimension"

Manderlay
"The Road to Manderlay" de Carsten Bramsen

Le Direktør
"Occupations" (Chacun son cinéma)

Antichrist
Commentaires audio de Lars Von Trier
Confidences de Charlotte Gainsbourg (45')
Antichrist au Festival de Cannes 2009 (15')
Interview de Willem Dafoe (8')
Confessions de Lars Von Trier (5')
L'identité visuelle du film (15')
L'identité musicale et sonore du film (13')
La création des décors (5')
"La Femme, instrument du diable" (7')
La pré-production (6')
Les trois mendiants (8')
Les effets spéciaux (8')

Melancholia
Commentaire audio de Lars von Trier
Autour du film (12')
Esthétique du film (10')
Les effets spéciaux (7')
Éclairage scientifique (4')
"La fin du monde chez Lars von Trier" par Philippe Rouyer

Nymphomaniac
"Plus c'est long, plus c'est bon ?" : commentaire comparé par Philippe Rouyer (27')
Entretien avec Stacy Martin (10')
Entretien avec Shia LaBeouf (9')
Entretien avec Charlotte Gainsbourg (12')
Entretien avec Stellan Skarsgård ((11')
Entretien avec Jørgen Leth par Philippe Rouyer (10')

The House That Jack Built
Interview de Lars von Trier (34')
Analyse du film par Pacôme Thiellement
Analyse du film par Stéphane du Mesnildot

Blu-ray bonus 1 :
Téléfilms :
- "Medea" (1988, 77')
- "D-Dag" ("D-dag - Den færdige film", 2001, 65')
Court métrage : "The Orchid Gardener" ("Orchidégartneren", 1977, 37')

Blu-ray bonus 2 :
"Tranceformer - A Portrait of Lars von Trier" de Stig Bjorkman (1997, 52')
"L'image originelle - Lars von Trier" de Pierre-Henri Gibert (2019, 26')
Table ronde Festival de La Rochelle
Interviews :
- Gaspar Noé
- Olivier Assayas
- Bertrand Mandico

[Nitroes]

Same at Amazon I assume https://www.amazon.fr/dp/B0CF38PJFH/

[UnionJackMix]

Originally Posted by Nitroes

Same at Amazon I assume https://www.amazon.fr/dp/B0CF38PJFH/

Hah, ok so what was exclusive to fnac? The box artwork?

[Nitroes]

I don't know what the difference is. FNAC and Potemkine.fr are using the same UPC: 3545020084878.

That UPC doesn't yet work on Amazon.fr but there's is listed as a Potemkine release.

[thuata]

Many french releases are branded as "Fnac exclusive", it doesn't mean anything, I own a lot of them and they're available everywhere.
It's possible that some of them have truly been exclusive, I couldn't say for sure, but I think this is just Fnac adding their brand to product pictures for visibility, maybe something that started with some actual exclusivity arrangement.
The Lars von Trier set is available from Potemkine, this is where I'll be getting it.

[Wernski]

What do you guys reckon the odds are that there will be English subs on the extras?

[PSYCHICGUY]

Originally Posted by Wernski

What do you guys reckon the odds are that there will be English subs on the extras?

Nil.

[UnionJackMix]

Originally Posted by thuata

Many french releases are branded as "Fnac exclusive", it doesn't mean anything, I own a lot of them and they're available everywhere.
It's possible that some of them have truly been exclusive, I couldn't say for sure, but I think this is just Fnac adding their brand to product pictures for visibility, maybe something that started with some actual exclusivity arrangement.
The Lars von Trier set is available from Potemkine, this is where I'll be getting it.

Yeah, I know that for example however, for CDs of music, fnac will have exclusive cover sleeves that in other countries are exclusives to say, hmv, Target in the US etc. For movies however, it might have been specific steelbook designs, but for this box it's anyone's guess.
I don't own any work of this director but know of many of those movies and I wouldn't mind purchasing the box but I'd need to know which version is best.

[nicwood]

Received my copy from Potemkine directly today.
I had high hopes after they put out a few great BD releases in the past and the excellent Lost Highway UHD fully sold me.

I hate to be the bearer of bad news though: The encodes are terrible, almost Curzon-level bad. It’s ironic as I’ve attempted to escape the curse of Curzon and their terrible BD releases (Wim Wenders set) by going with the Potemkine, yet here I am. What makes this even more sad is that apparently Curzon stepped up their game and delivered a solid von Trier set themselves.

The shot-on-film films fare the worst with significant macroblocking in nearly all areas of the frames - from highlights to normally bright portions. The blocking is visible in motion and even stronger in caps. This is not a bitrate issue but something in the encoder settings. I have a strong feeling that these are the most basic autopilot encodes.

The digitally shot films are better but still imperfect. Dogville looks good, Melancholia absolutely terrible, The House that Jack Built solid, The Idiot solid and so on. It’s terribly inconsistent. It’s admittedly a little difficult to spot encoding issues among some of the anomalies inherent to the sources but if you know where to look at, you can see things.

It’s a damn shame as I’m not sure we’ll see too many other LvT complete sets coming soon.

[Shaw24]

Originally Posted by nicwood

Received my copy from Potemkine directly today.
I had high hopes after they put out a few great BD releases in the past and the excellent Lost Highway UHD fully sold me.

I hate to be the bearer of bad news though: The encodes are terrible, almost Curzon-level bad. It’s ironic as I’ve attempted to escape the curse of Curzon and their terrible BD releases (Wim Wenders set) by going with the Potemkine, yet here I am. What makes this even more sad is that apparently Curzon stepped up their game and delivered a solid von Trier set themselves.

The shot-on-film films fare the worst with significant macroblocking in nearly all areas of the frames - from highlights to normally bright portions. The blocking is visible in motion and even stronger in caps. This is not a bitrate issue but something in the encoder settings. I have a strong feeling that these are the most basic autopilot encodes.

The digitally shot films are better but still imperfect. Dogville looks good, Melancholia absolutely terrible, The House that Jack Built solid, The Idiot solid and so on. It’s terribly inconsistent. It’s admittedly a little difficult to spot encoding issues among some of the anomalies inherent to the sources but if you know where to look at, you can see things.

It’s a damn shame as I’m not sure we’ll see too many other LvT complete sets coming soon.

How is Dancer in the Dark? Also, do any of the films have English subtitles?

The existing Dancer blurays frequently sell for (nearly) the cost of this set alone on ebay, so assuming it has a good transfer, getting this set for just that film seems plausible. If any of the content not included in the curzon boxset has english subs, I'd probably bite, but I doubt it does.

[nicwood]

Originally Posted by Shaw24

How is Dancer in the Dark? Also, do any of the films have English subtitles?

The existing Dancer blurays frequently sell for (nearly) the cost of this set alone on ebay, so assuming it has a good transfer, getting this set for just that film seems plausible. If any of the content not included in the curzon boxset has english subs, I'd probably bite, but I doubt it does.

No English subtitles here. Dancer in the Dark looks okay, it‘s really nothing special to be honest. All films share the same, lazy encoding. The Digital features like this hide the flaws quite well. A member on Criterionforum mentioned that all the Potemkine discs have been set to a standard bitrate of 30 MB/s whereas the old German Koch BD of Dancer in the Dark runs at 35 MB/s. I have the German BD too but the difference is forgettable due to the digital nature.

I‘d say it’s a pick your poison situation here, especially for the price.

[Nitroes]

I bought the German Dancer in the Dark for less than £13.50 this month from Momox so keep an eye out for it https://www.amazon.de/dp/B00KHK1T5S/

[Shaw24]

Originally Posted by nicwood

No English subtitles here. Dancer in the Dark looks okay, it‘s really nothing special to be honest. All films share the same, lazy encoding. The Digital features like this hide the flaws quite well. A member on Criterionforum mentioned that all the Potemkine discs have been set to a standard bitrate of 30 MB/s whereas the old German Koch BD of Dancer in the Dark runs at 35 MB/s. I have the German BD too but the difference is forgettable due to the digital nature.

I‘d say it’s a pick your poison situation here, especially for the price.

I know it ****s with the color, but just from the screen shots, I like the look of the Japanese edition best.

I already have the DVD and the German release looks like only a minute improvement over that.

[Nitroes]

A lot of Von Trier's later films look crap whether it's DVD or Blu-ray.

I've seen several of them in the cinema and they looked terrible and I thought to myself "I'd be as well to watch this at home on VHS or DVD". I'm sure he intended some of them to look crap too.

I've only had a flick through my UK set and German Dancer in The Dark and I'm not expecting any miracles for the later films when I eventually sit down to watch them.

You can put lipstick on a pig but it's still a pig.