Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid (1973) Criterion 2022 - Blu-ray Forum

DukeTogo84 · 03-22-2022, 08:06 PM

About time!

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Originally Posted by jordan-r

Pat Garrett & Billy the Kid is coming.

"All of this was compounded by the studio’s mutilation of the film on its release; the creation years later of a much longer version, based on Roger Spottiswoode’s cutting copy; and later still a shorter but intelligible version based on the long cut. Criterion are releasing the film on Blu-ray this year, and will presumably pick a favourite."

Tylerfan · 03-22-2022, 08:09 PM

Cool

Killer Meteor · 03-22-2022, 08:14 PM

Mike Sutton (RIP) would be pleased - https://www.thedigitalfix.com/film/d...billy-the-kid/

jkoffman · 03-22-2022, 08:15 PM

It’ll be about time when Criterion actually announces it. Until then, still a rumor.

sb5 · 03-22-2022, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DukeTogo84

”Criterion are releasing the film on Blu-ray this year, and will presumably pick a favourite."

I hope not - I’d rather they’d include every version for completeness sake.

…That being said, if they pick one, it better be Peckinpah’s preview cut.

DukeTogo84 · 03-22-2022, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by jkoffman

It’ll be about time when Criterion actually announces it. Until then, still a rumor.

Alex Cox is working with Criterion and he said they are working on it, so it's not a rumor as he mentions it's coming this year. (He'll probably be involved in one of the special features) If it actually happens this year is another matter as Criterion can often be delayed. Still, it's coming for sure.

jkoffman · 03-22-2022, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DukeTogo84

Alex Cox is working with Criterion and he said they are working on it, so it's not a rumor as he mentions it's coming this year. (He'll probably be involved in one of the special features) If it actually happens this year is another matter as Criterion can often be delayed. Still, it's coming for sure.

Sir Duke, dude. I know who Alex Cox is and know he’s been working with Criterion for years. We will never see eye to eye on this, but even though Cox is clearly more informed than you or I, you know a lot can change with a film project or go wrong along the way. I’m sure Criterion is working on it and hopes to release it, but the way people jump on even a third party mention of this in an interview is just not helpful to me in any way. When Criterion announces it and it’s for sale, it will be confirmed. I only buy releases that exist.

DukeTogo84 · 03-22-2022, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by jkoffman

Sir Duke, dude. I know who Alex Cox is and know he’s been working with Criterion for years. We will never see eye to eye on this, but even though Cox is clearly more informed than you or I, you know a lot can change with a film project or go wrong along the way. I’m sure Criterion is working on it and hopes to release it, but the way people jump on even a third party mention of this in an interview is just not helpful to me in any way. When Criterion announces it and it’s for sale, it will be confirmed. I only buy releases that exist.

Sure, but none of this changes the fact that it's planned for a release this year. So plenty to be excited for.

jkoffman · 03-22-2022, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DukeTogo84

Sure, but none of this changes the fact that it's planned for a release this year. So plenty to be excited for.

None of this changes the fact that Alex Cox said it’s planned for release this year by Criterion.

Nailwraps · 03-22-2022, 08:33 PM

Include all 3 cuts, PLEASE!!!

The Sovereign · 03-22-2022, 08:35 PM

I consider this less than an announcement, but more than a rumor. And I'll take it!

DukeTogo84 · 03-22-2022, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by jkoffman

None of this changes the fact that Alex Cox said it’s planned for release this year by Criterion.

Well, you can eat all the sour grapes you want, but I'll take Alex's word that it's coming. Pretty exciting.

MifuneFan · 03-22-2022, 08:44 PM

I can confirm that it is indeed coming, but will have a brand new cut supervised by Joel and Ethan Coen. Billy the Kid has now been completely removed from the film.

thatguamguy · 03-22-2022, 08:44 PM

If Cox isn't even close enough to the project to know which version they are using, can we really take his "this year" as him stating a definite fact?

thatguamguy · 03-22-2022, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by MifuneFan

I can confirm that it is indeed coming, but will have a brand new cut supervised by Joel and Ethan Coen. Billy the Kid has now been completely removed from the film.

Jesus, Tom.

jkoffman · 03-22-2022, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DukeTogo84

Well, you can eat all the sour grapes you want, but I'll take Alex's word that it's coming. Pretty exciting.

Ok, Fettuccine.

Abdrewes · 03-22-2022, 08:45 PM

Hope they do it justice!

DukeTogo84 · 03-22-2022, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by thatguamguy

If Cox isn't even close enough to the project to know which version they are using, can we really take his "this year" as him stating a definite fact?

I wouldn't say "this year" as a definite fact, but I think it's a definite fact that Criterion is at least working on it with at least some sort plan to have it come out this year.

DukeTogo84 · 03-22-2022, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by jkoffman

Ok, Fettuccine.

I'll tell you this. You sure love your pasta and there is nothing wrong with that. I love some fettuccine.

mca213 · 03-22-2022, 08:50 PM

Better include all the versions since its taken this long. Not just criterions "favorite"

03-22-2022, 08:09 PM	#2
Tylerfan Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Feb 2020 Location:Somewhere in Canada 4K collection:42 Blu-ray collection:322 DVD collection:274 Digital collection:11 iTunes collection:28 Blu-ray reviews: 5 Trading Score:2	Cool

03-22-2022, 08:14 PM	#3
Killer Meteor Banned Member since:Jan 2013 4K collection:- Blu-ray collection:- DVD collection:-	Mike Sutton (RIP) would be pleased - https://www.thedigitalfix.com/film/d...billy-the-kid/

03-22-2022, 08:15 PM	#4
jkoffman Banned Top contributor Member since:Oct 2015 Location:U.S. 4K collection:363 Blu-ray collection:4988 DVD collection:660 Trading Score:86	It’ll be about time when Criterion actually announces it. Until then, still a rumor.

03-22-2022, 08:33 PM	#10
Nailwraps Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Jun 2012 Location:USA 4K collection:61 Blu-ray collection:884 DVD collection:1826 Digital collection:3	Include all 3 cuts, PLEASE!!!

03-22-2022, 08:35 PM	#11
The Sovereign Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jun 2015 4K collection:289 Blu-ray collection:3343 Trading Score:1	I consider this less than an announcement, but more than a rumor. And I'll take it!

03-22-2022, 08:44 PM	#13
MifuneFan Blu-ray Emperor Top contributor Member since:Mar 2012 Location:New York City 4K collection:27 Blu-ray collection:1143 Trading Score:69	I can confirm that it is indeed coming, but will have a brand new cut supervised by Joel and Ethan Coen. Billy the Kid has now been completely removed from the film.

03-22-2022, 08:44 PM	#14
thatguamguy Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Mar 2016 Trading Score:4	If Cox isn't even close enough to the project to know which version they are using, can we really take his "this year" as him stating a definite fact?

03-22-2022, 08:45 PM	#17
Abdrewes Blu-ray Prince Top contributor Member since:May 2011 Location:Texas 4K collection:767 Blu-ray collection:9831 DVD collection:523 Digital collection:1 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:362	Hope they do it justice!

03-22-2022, 08:50 PM	#20
mca213 Blu-ray Guru Member since:Nov 2014 4K collection:60 Blu-ray collection:1617 Trading Score:13	Better include all the versions since its taken this long. Not just criterions "favorite"

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