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Sony Music Japan have released several titles from Sony Music's Herbert von Karajan: His Legacy for Home Video (1982-1988) series of programs:
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These titles appear to be from Karajan's "His Legacy for Home Video" series, which Sony Music have released on LD, VHS and DVD at various times and throughout the world. In researching the series, it seems that several concerts may have been released on DVD exclusively in Japan, and Sony Music Japan subsequently released a forty-disc box set with thirty-seven titles included back in 2008. In Europe and particularly in North America, it seems far fewer have been issued on DVD.
Apparently, all of these videos were shot by Karajan between 1982-1988, and while information on the selected titles is scant at the moment, rather cheekily, it seems that Sony Music picked one title from each year to put out on Blu-ray. So, besides A/V specs, the burning question now is, will these Blu-rays be exclusive to Japan, or will Sony Music put them out in Europe and North America? The above concerts are all in the "SIXC-XXX" product series, and while many of those, like the New Year's Concerts, are ports of international discs, there are Japan-only releases, like SIXC-18, which is a concert with Japanese Pianist Ikuyo Nakamichi. Further information can be found in the product listings at HMV.co.jp, including the following: Quote:
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[Show spoiler] This seems like a truly bizarre process, essentially playing the music back and re-recording the sound of the concert hall, then remixing the concert audio with the new concert hall ambiance recording?! In any event, it seems that DVDs with the b-sharp remastering were initially released in 2008, so older DVDs should be unaffected. Note that one title, Live in Osaka 1984, seems to be exempt from the b-sharp remastering, possibly because it has been released only in Japan, and did not receive a DVD release in Japan until 2008. I suppose we will have to wait for an official press release (not to mention cover art) to find out anything more. |
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They would probably only re-record the rear channels. They would use the unaltered stereo sound for the mains. That is pretty common for up-mixes from stereo sources, but usually it's done digitally, not by recording in an actual concert hall.
It's conceivable that the concerts may have been shot in HD, but it's unlikely that they did that in 1982, considering there was no way to actually distribute HD TV until a decade later. This sounds like a craven repackage job designed to trick Japanese music fans. I guess they figure people care more about the specs of the disc being sold than the specs of the master itself. They might just be right. Last edited by bigshot; 04-21-2019 at 07:50 PM. |
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I got these today. I haven't watched them yet, but they all appear to be upscaled from LD masters as indicated (for what it's worth, I spot checked all of the discs and none of what I saw was shot on film, it was all video). For whatever reason, the back covers all include an "LB" symbol to indicate the aspect ratio as letterboxed 4:3, but I saw no letterboxing, so perhaps that's being used as shorthand for pillarboxing in this case. In any event, all the video I saw was (approximately) 1.33:1.
Each disc that had its audio remastered a few years ago (see my comments above) offers two 48/24 LPCM 2.0 tracks, one labeled "original" and another labeled "remaster" (for whatever reason, the first program from 1982 only mentions one audio track on the back cover), while some programs that received a multi-channel mix at some point include that mix as DTS-HD MA 5.0. Two of the programs include optional Japanese subtitles where necessary, and these are in white font. No other subtitles are provided. None of the discs come with any video extras, although each has a short black and white leaflet with Japanese text (white text on black pages) for that particular program. Also, each disc begins with a copyright screen and logo for Sony Music Japan International, which leads me to believe that these discs will only be issued in Japan, and not in Europe or worldwide like many classical music Blu-rays. I find it interesting that the one disc that is a BD-50 actually has a much lower video bitrate than all the others. It seems that there might have been a push to get it onto a BD-25, but in the end, it just squeaked over. Otherwise, the programs all have very high video bitrates, even though the video is upscaled and obviously can only look so good. ![]() Code:
Total Video Title Codec Length Movie Size Disc Size Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track Secondary Audio Track ----- ------ ------- -------------- -------------- ------- ------- ------------------ --------------------- 00001.MPLS AVC 0:54:37 18,668,802,048 18,862,985,413 45.57 38.89 LPCM 2.0 2304Kbps (48kHz/24-bit) LPCM 2.0 2304Kbps (48kHz/24-bit) Code:
DISC INFO: Disc Title: BEETHOVEN_SYMPHONY_NO3 Disc Size: 18,862,985,413 bytes Protection: AACS BD-Java: No BDInfo: 0.5.8 PLAYLIST REPORT: Name: 00001.MPLS Length: 0:54:37.274 (h:m:s.ms) Size: 18,668,802,048 bytes Total Bitrate: 45.57 Mbps VIDEO: Codec Bitrate Description ----- ------- ----------- MPEG-4 AVC Video 38887 kbps 1080i / 29.970 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1 AUDIO: Codec Language Bitrate Description ----- -------- ------- ----------- LPCM Audio Undetermined 2304 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 2304 kbps / 24-bit LPCM Audio Undetermined 2304 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 2304 kbps / 24-bit FILES: Name Time In Length Size Total Bitrate ---- ------- ------ ---- ------------- 00001.M2TS 0:00:00.000 0:54:37.274 18,668,802,048 45,572 CHAPTERS: Number Time In Length Avg Video Rate Max 1-Sec Rate Max 1-Sec Time Max 5-Sec Rate Max 5-Sec Time Max 10Sec Rate Max 10Sec Time Avg Frame Size Max Frame Size Max Frame Time ------ ------- ------ -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- 1 0:00:00.000 0:00:57.791 28,557 kbps 38,191 kbps 00:00:20.286 34,996 kbps 00:00:20.286 33,775 kbps 00:00:20.286 119,036 bytes 341,369 bytes 00:00:22.021 2 0:00:57.791 0:15:26.959 39,125 kbps 43,881 kbps 00:03:21.601 40,344 kbps 00:03:17.630 39,790 kbps 00:03:12.592 163,186 bytes 413,585 bytes 00:01:10.069 3 0:16:24.750 0:16:40.566 38,985 kbps 44,048 kbps 00:26:44.903 40,156 kbps 00:22:51.002 39,793 kbps 00:22:45.997 162,601 bytes 388,898 bytes 00:29:27.499 4 0:33:05.316 0:06:17.977 39,099 kbps 43,313 kbps 00:34:43.181 40,088 kbps 00:38:26.003 39,663 kbps 00:34:34.172 163,074 bytes 387,515 bytes 00:34:05.076 5 0:39:23.294 0:15:13.979 39,104 kbps 45,614 kbps 00:40:02.933 40,621 kbps 00:39:58.963 39,784 kbps 00:52:11.995 163,104 bytes 640,646 bytes 00:54:36.273 STREAM DIAGNOSTICS: File PID Type Codec Language Seconds Bitrate Bytes Packets ---- --- ---- ----- -------- -------------- -------------- ------------- ----- 00001.M2TS 4113 (0x1011) 0x1B AVC 3277.207 38,888 15,930,544,909 86,636,256 00001.M2TS 4352 (0x1100) 0x80 LPCM und (Undetermined) 3277.207 2,310 946,477,020 5,243,640 00001.M2TS 4353 (0x1101) 0x80 LPCM und (Undetermined) 3277.207 2,310 946,477,020 5,243,640 ![]() Code:
Total Video Title Codec Length Movie Size Disc Size Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track Secondary Audio Track ----- ------ ------- -------------- -------------- ------- ------- ------------------ --------------------- 00001.MPLS AVC 0:55:02 19,615,438,848 19,832,941,688 47.52 36.96 LPCM 2.0 2304Kbps (48kHz/24-bit) LPCM 2.0 2304Kbps (48kHz/24-bit) Code:
DISC INFO: Disc Title: STRAUSS_EINE_ALPENSINFONIE Disc Size: 19,832,941,688 bytes Protection: AACS BD-Java: No BDInfo: 0.5.8 PLAYLIST REPORT: Name: 00001.MPLS Length: 0:55:02.299 (h:m:s.ms) Size: 19,615,438,848 bytes Total Bitrate: 47.52 Mbps VIDEO: Codec Bitrate Description ----- ------- ----------- MPEG-4 AVC Video 36958 kbps 1080i / 29.970 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1 AUDIO: Codec Language Bitrate Description ----- -------- ------- ----------- LPCM Audio Undetermined 2304 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 2304 kbps / 24-bit LPCM Audio Undetermined 2304 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 2304 kbps / 24-bit DTS-HD Master Audio Undetermined 3567 kbps 5.0 / 48 kHz / 3567 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.0 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit) FILES: Name Time In Length Size Total Bitrate ---- ------- ------ ---- ------------- 00004.M2TS 0:00:00.000 0:55:02.299 19,615,438,848 47,519 CHAPTERS: Number Time In Length Avg Video Rate Max 1-Sec Rate Max 1-Sec Time Max 5-Sec Rate Max 5-Sec Time Max 10Sec Rate Max 10Sec Time Avg Frame Size Max Frame Size Max Frame Time ------ ------- ------ -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- 1 0:00:00.000 0:00:58.892 34,022 kbps 39,759 kbps 00:00:24.290 37,302 kbps 00:00:36.669 37,068 kbps 00:00:22.489 141,822 bytes 640,646 bytes 00:00:00.000 2 0:00:58.892 0:03:52.932 36,216 kbps 39,442 kbps 00:01:35.462 37,765 kbps 00:02:48.868 37,617 kbps 00:02:43.730 151,050 bytes 437,264 bytes 00:01:08.902 3 0:04:51.824 0:01:19.579 36,712 kbps 42,060 kbps 00:05:10.343 38,029 kbps 00:05:06.305 37,560 kbps 00:05:01.300 153,119 bytes 436,802 bytes 00:05:14.847 4 0:06:11.404 0:02:12.599 37,148 kbps 43,685 kbps 00:07:41.360 38,572 kbps 00:07:37.356 37,969 kbps 00:07:32.351 154,938 bytes 375,804 bytes 00:06:42.969 5 0:08:24.003 0:04:49.322 37,276 kbps 43,905 kbps 00:13:01.447 38,429 kbps 00:12:57.443 37,688 kbps 00:10:44.944 155,471 bytes 327,505 bytes 00:08:37.016 6 0:13:13.325 0:00:47.914 37,139 kbps 39,565 kbps 00:13:31.777 37,732 kbps 00:13:54.466 37,699 kbps 00:13:49.461 154,900 bytes 330,464 bytes 00:13:37.216 7 0:14:01.240 0:00:17.050 37,417 kbps 39,055 kbps 00:14:04.577 37,833 kbps 00:14:09.081 37,613 kbps 00:14:04.009 156,060 bytes 316,972 bytes 00:14:15.421 8 0:14:18.290 0:00:53.186 36,886 kbps 39,682 kbps 00:14:28.300 37,685 kbps 00:14:20.159 37,459 kbps 00:14:59.698 153,847 bytes 337,354 bytes 00:14:32.972 9 0:15:11.477 0:00:55.755 37,145 kbps 39,184 kbps 00:15:22.888 37,657 kbps 00:15:18.784 37,582 kbps 00:15:36.969 154,927 bytes 316,975 bytes 00:15:42.508 10 0:16:07.232 0:02:13.132 37,349 kbps 40,510 kbps 00:17:47.099 38,049 kbps 00:17:43.061 37,768 kbps 00:17:38.090 155,775 bytes 376,733 bytes 00:16:13.238 11 0:18:20.365 0:01:40.934 37,115 kbps 44,381 kbps 00:19:53.058 38,402 kbps 00:19:49.054 37,694 kbps 00:19:05.043 154,799 bytes 358,691 bytes 00:19:18.824 12 0:20:01.300 0:01:19.479 37,384 kbps 43,727 kbps 00:20:48.113 38,183 kbps 00:20:44.109 37,858 kbps 00:20:39.071 155,923 bytes 324,154 bytes 00:20:42.307 13 0:21:20.779 0:01:39.999 36,909 kbps 42,788 kbps 00:22:29.581 37,786 kbps 00:22:38.990 37,649 kbps 00:22:33.985 153,942 bytes 320,113 bytes 00:22:34.019 14 0:23:00.779 0:04:27.800 37,208 kbps 40,571 kbps 00:24:55.193 37,996 kbps 00:25:01.566 37,709 kbps 00:26:19.010 155,189 bytes 386,305 bytes 00:25:08.506 15 0:27:28.580 0:03:29.742 37,250 kbps 43,447 kbps 00:30:47.412 38,534 kbps 00:29:12.517 37,951 kbps 00:29:07.512 155,365 bytes 356,327 bytes 00:30:42.841 16 0:30:58.323 0:00:21.688 37,361 kbps 37,943 kbps 00:31:18.209 37,527 kbps 00:31:15.006 37,472 kbps 00:31:10.001 155,826 bytes 335,539 bytes 00:31:01.326 17 0:31:20.011 0:00:54.187 37,404 kbps 38,588 kbps 00:32:07.659 37,686 kbps 00:32:05.757 37,562 kbps 00:32:00.551 156,008 bytes 288,130 bytes 00:32:12.063 18 0:32:14.198 0:02:06.092 37,255 kbps 39,838 kbps 00:33:49.627 37,827 kbps 00:33:59.003 37,636 kbps 00:33:54.065 155,385 bytes 329,473 bytes 00:34:17.588 19 0:34:20.291 0:02:54.874 36,917 kbps 39,572 kbps 00:36:00.925 37,793 kbps 00:37:07.825 37,586 kbps 00:35:51.949 153,973 bytes 322,276 bytes 00:35:35.366 20 0:37:15.166 0:04:11.951 37,182 kbps 43,131 kbps 00:37:22.006 38,191 kbps 00:37:32.416 37,842 kbps 00:37:27.411 155,079 bytes 353,856 bytes 00:41:07.565 21 0:41:27.117 0:02:43.029 37,359 kbps 40,218 kbps 00:44:05.542 37,791 kbps 00:44:01.605 37,598 kbps 00:43:17.861 155,819 bytes 355,981 bytes 00:44:06.276 22 0:44:10.147 0:06:13.773 36,853 kbps 39,455 kbps 00:46:37.594 37,721 kbps 00:46:41.899 37,561 kbps 00:44:37.741 153,709 bytes 418,518 bytes 00:44:37.174 23 0:50:23.920 0:04:38.378 36,437 kbps 39,734 kbps 00:53:23.500 37,931 kbps 00:54:51.655 37,684 kbps 00:54:46.583 151,991 bytes 640,646 bytes 00:55:01.297 STREAM DIAGNOSTICS: File PID Type Codec Language Seconds Bitrate Bytes Packets ---- --- ---- ----- -------- -------------- -------------- ------------- ----- 00004.M2TS 4113 (0x1011) 0x1B AVC 3302.232 36,959 15,255,893,878 82,970,031 00004.M2TS 4352 (0x1100) 0x80 LPCM und (Undetermined) 3302.232 2,310 953,704,240 5,283,680 00004.M2TS 4353 (0x1101) 0x80 LPCM und (Undetermined) 3302.232 2,310 953,704,240 5,283,680 00004.M2TS 4354 (0x1102) 0x86 DTS-HD MA und (Undetermined) 3302.232 3,567 1,472,293,624 8,515,684 ![]() Code:
Total Video Title Codec Length Movie Size Disc Size Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track Secondary Audio Track ----- ------ ------- -------------- -------------- ------- ------- ------------------ --------------------- 00001.MPLS AVC 1:17:05 21,376,370,688 21,537,390,341 36.97 33.00 LPCM 2.0 2304Kbps (48kHz/24-bit) Code:
DISC INFO: Disc Title: LIVE_IN_OSAKA_1984 Disc Size: 21,537,390,341 bytes Protection: AACS BD-Java: No BDInfo: 0.5.8 PLAYLIST REPORT: Name: 00001.MPLS Length: 1:17:05.620 (h:m:s.ms) Size: 21,376,370,688 bytes Total Bitrate: 36.97 Mbps VIDEO: Codec Bitrate Description ----- ------- ----------- MPEG-4 AVC Video 33000 kbps 1080i / 29.970 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1 AUDIO: Codec Language Bitrate Description ----- -------- ------- ----------- LPCM Audio Undetermined 2304 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 2304 kbps / 24-bit FILES: Name Time In Length Size Total Bitrate ---- ------- ------ ---- ------------- 00001.M2TS 0:00:00.000 1:17:05.620 21,376,370,688 36,970 CHAPTERS: Number Time In Length Avg Video Rate Max 1-Sec Rate Max 1-Sec Time Max 5-Sec Rate Max 5-Sec Time Max 10Sec Rate Max 10Sec Time Avg Frame Size Max Frame Size Max Frame Time ------ ------- ------ -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- 1 0:00:00.000 0:00:56.055 29,835 kbps 41,391 kbps 00:00:23.490 39,780 kbps 00:00:19.519 39,575 kbps 00:00:19.519 124,365 bytes 640,646 bytes 00:00:00.000 2 0:00:56.055 0:07:23.443 33,063 kbps 41,166 kbps 00:02:49.569 39,753 kbps 00:02:45.465 39,579 kbps 00:02:40.460 137,900 bytes 434,997 bytes 00:01:11.070 3 0:08:19.498 0:04:53.960 35,417 kbps 41,720 kbps 00:11:51.811 39,653 kbps 00:10:25.057 39,507 kbps 00:10:19.986 147,719 bytes 391,058 bytes 00:08:25.505 4 0:13:13.459 0:04:25.598 34,770 kbps 40,874 kbps 00:16:29.321 39,545 kbps 00:15:28.961 39,434 kbps 00:17:23.542 145,018 bytes 419,678 bytes 00:17:33.519 5 0:17:39.058 0:07:04.424 31,256 kbps 39,668 kbps 00:23:53.632 39,140 kbps 00:23:57.969 38,918 kbps 00:23:53.598 130,363 bytes 307,378 bytes 00:24:03.442 6 0:24:43.482 0:07:36.489 34,521 kbps 41,885 kbps 00:28:11.790 39,845 kbps 00:32:02.053 39,574 kbps 00:31:57.048 143,983 bytes 395,563 bytes 00:27:38.556 7 0:32:19.971 0:19:09.148 33,258 kbps 41,988 kbps 00:44:38.275 39,861 kbps 00:43:34.144 39,624 kbps 00:43:29.139 138,714 bytes 422,588 bytes 00:47:52.636 8 0:51:29.119 0:03:35.181 35,350 kbps 41,867 kbps 00:53:19.930 39,822 kbps 00:53:15.926 39,572 kbps 00:53:16.593 147,441 bytes 409,476 bytes 00:51:43.133 9 0:55:04.301 0:07:07.426 31,835 kbps 40,516 kbps 00:56:13.870 39,572 kbps 00:56:06.529 39,138 kbps 00:56:13.336 132,780 bytes 393,296 bytes 00:56:19.376 10 1:02:11.728 0:06:54.413 30,997 kbps 39,786 kbps 01:08:23.532 39,480 kbps 01:08:23.632 39,415 kbps 01:08:18.394 129,282 bytes 354,686 bytes 01:08:19.094 11 1:09:06.142 0:07:59.478 32,038 kbps 41,628 kbps 01:11:42.865 39,752 kbps 01:12:07.956 39,530 kbps 01:12:07.956 133,635 bytes 640,646 bytes 01:17:03.752 STREAM DIAGNOSTICS: File PID Type Codec Language Seconds Bitrate Bytes Packets ---- --- ---- ----- -------- -------------- -------------- ------------- ----- 00001.M2TS 4113 (0x1011) 0x1B AVC 4625.554 33,000 19,080,521,588 103,779,292 00001.M2TS 4352 (0x1100) 0x80 LPCM und (Undetermined) 4625.554 2,310 1,335,879,056 7,400,992 ![]() Code:
Total Video Title Codec Length Movie Size Disc Size Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track Secondary Audio Track ----- ------ ------- -------------- -------------- ------- ------- ------------------ --------------------- 00001.MPLS AVC 1:02:12 20,294,221,824 20,445,143,957 43.50 33.16 LPCM 2.0 2304Kbps (48kHz/24-bit) LPCM 2.0 2304Kbps (48kHz/24-bit) Code:
DISC INFO: Disc Title: BRUCKNER_SYMPHONY_NO9 Disc Size: 20,445,143,957 bytes Protection: AACS BD-Java: No BDInfo: 0.5.8 PLAYLIST REPORT: Name: 00001.MPLS Length: 1:02:12.395 (h:m:s.ms) Size: 20,294,221,824 bytes Total Bitrate: 43.50 Mbps VIDEO: Codec Bitrate Description ----- ------- ----------- MPEG-4 AVC Video 33158 kbps 1080i / 29.970 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1 AUDIO: Codec Language Bitrate Description ----- -------- ------- ----------- LPCM Audio Undetermined 2304 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 2304 kbps / 24-bit LPCM Audio Undetermined 2304 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 2304 kbps / 24-bit DTS-HD Master Audio Undetermined 3513 kbps 5.0 / 48 kHz / 3513 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.0 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit) FILES: Name Time In Length Size Total Bitrate ---- ------- ------ ---- ------------- 00004.M2TS 0:00:00.000 0:35:46.811 11,909,713,920 44,381 00005.M2TS 0:35:46.811 0:26:25.583 8,384,507,904 42,304 CHAPTERS: Number Time In Length Avg Video Rate Max 1-Sec Rate Max 1-Sec Time Max 5-Sec Rate Max 5-Sec Time Max 10Sec Rate Max 10Sec Time Avg Frame Size Max Frame Size Max Frame Time ------ ------- ------ -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- 1 0:00:00.000 0:00:56.389 32,171 kbps 36,200 kbps 00:00:24.491 34,621 kbps 00:00:20.553 34,546 kbps 00:00:19.352 134,102 bytes 640,646 bytes 00:00:00.000 2 0:00:56.389 0:24:12.617 33,953 kbps 37,125 kbps 00:11:59.051 34,942 kbps 00:02:51.004 34,733 kbps 00:09:24.230 141,613 bytes 391,601 bytes 00:01:10.403 3 0:25:09.007 0:10:37.803 34,210 kbps 40,636 kbps 00:35:44.876 35,193 kbps 00:28:11.990 34,809 kbps 00:28:06.918 142,685 bytes 640,646 bytes 00:35:45.810 4 0:35:46.811 0:26:25.583 32,041 kbps 37,229 kbps 00:46:35.893 35,053 kbps 00:46:31.889 34,811 kbps 00:46:26.884 133,639 bytes 640,646 bytes 01:02:11.394 STREAM DIAGNOSTICS: File PID Type Codec Language Seconds Bitrate Bytes Packets ---- --- ---- ----- -------- -------------- -------------- ------------- ----- 00004.M2TS 4113 (0x1011) 0x1B AVC 2146.711 33,984 9,119,322,030 49,599,045 00004.M2TS 4352 (0x1100) 0x80 LPCM und (Undetermined) 2146.711 2,311 620,000,172 3,434,904 00004.M2TS 4353 (0x1101) 0x80 LPCM und (Undetermined) 2146.711 2,311 620,000,172 3,434,904 00004.M2TS 4354 (0x1102) 0x86 DTS-HD MA und (Undetermined) 2146.711 3,534 948,366,900 5,488,936 00005.M2TS 4113 (0x1011) 0x1B AVC 1585.517 32,042 6,350,388,129 34,540,651 00005.M2TS 4352 (0x1100) 0x80 LPCM und (Undetermined) 1585.517 2,310 457,916,948 2,536,936 00005.M2TS 4353 (0x1101) 0x80 LPCM und (Undetermined) 1585.517 2,310 457,916,948 2,536,936 00005.M2TS 4354 (0x1102) 0x86 DTS-HD MA und (Undetermined) 1585.517 3,485 690,766,116 4,001,652 ![]() Code:
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DISC INFO: Disc Title: NEW_YEARS_CONCERT_1987 Disc Size: 26,310,882,323 bytes Protection: AACS BD-Java: No BDInfo: 0.5.8 PLAYLIST REPORT: Name: 00001.MPLS Length: 1:37:34.848 (h:m:s.ms) Size: 26,104,559,616 bytes Total Bitrate: 35.67 Mbps VIDEO: Codec Bitrate Description ----- ------- ----------- MPEG-4 AVC Video 25567 kbps 1080i / 29.970 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1 AUDIO: Codec Language Bitrate Description ----- -------- ------- ----------- LPCM Audio Undetermined 2304 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 2304 kbps / 24-bit LPCM Audio Undetermined 2304 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 2304 kbps / 24-bit DTS-HD Master Audio Undetermined 3599 kbps 5.0 / 48 kHz / 3599 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.0 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit) SUBTITLES: Codec Language Bitrate Description ----- -------- ------- ----------- Presentation Graphics Japanese 1.354 kbps FILES: Name Time In Length Size Total Bitrate ---- ------- ------ ---- ------------- 00001.M2TS 0:00:00.000 0:51:45.102 13,334,863,872 34,356 00003.M2TS 0:51:45.102 0:45:49.746 12,769,695,744 37,152 CHAPTERS: Number Time In Length Avg Video Rate Max 1-Sec Rate Max 1-Sec Time Max 5-Sec Rate Max 5-Sec Time Max 10Sec Rate Max 10Sec Time Avg Frame Size Max Frame Size Max Frame Time ------ ------- ------ -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- 1 0:00:00.000 0:00:57.056 19,474 kbps 32,981 kbps 00:00:32.298 25,429 kbps 00:00:28.695 24,084 kbps 00:00:23.690 81,175 bytes 640,646 bytes 00:00:00.000 2 0:00:57.056 0:09:05.878 24,127 kbps 36,626 kbps 00:06:00.226 33,390 kbps 00:06:00.226 32,300 kbps 00:01:04.431 100,631 bytes 462,269 bytes 00:01:07.067 3 0:10:02.935 0:09:25.965 23,601 kbps 40,674 kbps 00:14:17.823 39,545 kbps 00:14:15.788 39,321 kbps 00:14:16.388 98,437 bytes 430,601 bytes 00:19:17.689 4 0:19:28.901 0:04:23.396 25,347 kbps 40,278 kbps 00:22:42.027 39,515 kbps 00:23:24.202 37,848 kbps 00:23:19.698 105,720 bytes 455,988 bytes 00:22:21.907 5 0:23:52.297 0:09:31.871 24,786 kbps 38,050 kbps 00:32:51.869 35,108 kbps 00:32:50.468 33,328 kbps 00:28:04.549 103,379 bytes 449,012 bytes 00:27:45.397 6 0:33:24.168 0:08:56.035 25,127 kbps 37,603 kbps 00:36:23.281 36,658 kbps 00:36:22.013 36,213 kbps 00:36:20.511 104,800 bytes 441,896 bytes 00:40:47.878 7 0:42:20.204 0:03:28.708 24,206 kbps 35,693 kbps 00:42:26.777 33,820 kbps 00:42:22.840 33,121 kbps 00:42:20.704 100,960 bytes 408,843 bytes 00:45:32.663 8 0:45:48.912 0:02:56.676 24,463 kbps 33,338 kbps 00:47:06.290 32,761 kbps 00:47:06.290 31,427 kbps 00:45:50.881 102,029 bytes 429,632 bytes 00:48:37.014 9 0:48:45.589 0:02:59.512 22,948 kbps 31,618 kbps 00:51:40.230 30,918 kbps 00:51:36.226 29,475 kbps 00:51:33.256 95,713 bytes 640,646 bytes 00:51:43.200 10 0:51:45.102 0:11:48.040 28,501 kbps 41,947 kbps 00:58:21.164 39,973 kbps 00:58:17.193 39,512 kbps 00:58:48.758 118,872 bytes 481,795 bytes 00:53:34.844 11 1:03:33.142 0:03:12.358 25,742 kbps 37,464 kbps 01:03:51.594 34,397 kbps 01:03:47.857 33,383 kbps 01:03:46.756 107,367 bytes 489,525 bytes 01:04:35.338 12 1:06:45.501 0:03:27.707 27,407 kbps 42,588 kbps 01:09:33.302 40,044 kbps 01:09:29.298 39,716 kbps 01:09:24.193 114,308 bytes 442,085 bytes 01:09:34.036 13 1:10:13.209 0:09:11.150 24,696 kbps 40,487 kbps 01:10:25.888 38,113 kbps 01:10:29.124 37,778 kbps 01:10:23.619 103,005 bytes 455,472 bytes 01:10:21.217 14 1:19:24.359 0:02:06.493 28,110 kbps 38,289 kbps 01:20:48.043 35,864 kbps 01:20:44.639 35,428 kbps 01:20:42.737 117,243 bytes 501,665 bytes 01:19:41.376 15 1:21:30.852 0:10:29.495 24,833 kbps 41,117 kbps 01:31:34.355 39,682 kbps 01:31:30.351 39,245 kbps 01:31:43.664 103,572 bytes 467,128 bytes 01:32:00.348 16 1:32:00.348 0:05:34.500 31,727 kbps 41,921 kbps 01:35:14.442 40,061 kbps 01:35:10.438 39,481 kbps 01:37:00.214 132,340 bytes 640,646 bytes 01:37:33.847 STREAM DIAGNOSTICS: File PID Type Codec Language Seconds Bitrate Bytes Packets ---- --- ---- ----- -------- -------------- -------------- ------------- ----- 00001.M2TS 4113 (0x1011) 0x1B AVC 3105.035 24,300 9,431,555,544 51,312,706 00001.M2TS 4352 (0x1100) 0x80 LPCM und (Undetermined) 3105.035 2,310 896,754,324 4,968,168 00001.M2TS 4353 (0x1101) 0x80 LPCM und (Undetermined) 3105.035 2,310 896,754,324 4,968,168 00001.M2TS 4354 (0x1102) 0x86 DTS-HD MA und (Undetermined) 3105.035 3,610 1,401,002,676 8,099,303 00001.M2TS 4608 (0x1200) 0x90 PGS jpn (Japanese) 3105.035 0 1,562 16 00003.M2TS 4113 (0x1011) 0x1B AVC 2749.680 26,998 9,279,487,728 50,480,022 00003.M2TS 4352 (0x1100) 0x80 LPCM und (Undetermined) 2749.680 2,310 794,126,356 4,399,592 00003.M2TS 4353 (0x1101) 0x80 LPCM und (Undetermined) 2749.680 2,310 794,126,356 4,399,592 00003.M2TS 4354 (0x1102) 0x86 DTS-HD MA und (Undetermined) 2749.680 3,588 1,233,194,592 7,131,793 00003.M2TS 4608 (0x1200) 0x90 PGS jpn (Japanese) 2749.680 3 989,162 5,702 ![]() Code:
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DISC INFO: Disc Title: NEW_YEARS_EVE_CONCERT_1988 Disc Size: 20,612,904,524 bytes Protection: AACS BD-Java: No BDInfo: 0.5.8 PLAYLIST REPORT: Name: 00001.MPLS Length: 0:59:46.583 (h:m:s.ms) Size: 20,474,511,360 bytes Total Bitrate: 45.67 Mbps VIDEO: Codec Bitrate Description ----- ------- ----------- MPEG-4 AVC Video 38981 kbps 1080i / 29.970 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1 AUDIO: Codec Language Bitrate Description ----- -------- ------- ----------- LPCM Audio Undetermined 2304 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 2304 kbps / 24-bit LPCM Audio Undetermined 2304 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 2304 kbps / 24-bit FILES: Name Time In Length Size Total Bitrate ---- ------- ------ ---- ------------- 00001.M2TS 0:00:00.000 0:59:46.583 20,474,511,360 45,669 CHAPTERS: Number Time In Length Avg Video Rate Max 1-Sec Rate Max 1-Sec Time Max 5-Sec Rate Max 5-Sec Time Max 10Sec Rate Max 10Sec Time Avg Frame Size Max Frame Size Max Frame Time ------ ------- ------ -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- 1 0:00:00.000 0:00:56.723 37,366 kbps 41,703 kbps 00:00:24.624 39,715 kbps 00:00:20.587 39,567 kbps 00:00:20.587 155,757 bytes 561,172 bytes 00:00:00.000 2 0:00:56.723 0:05:42.675 39,268 kbps 42,489 kbps 00:01:39.232 39,964 kbps 00:05:15.014 39,678 kbps 00:06:23.783 163,779 bytes 418,343 bytes 00:01:10.737 3 0:06:39.399 0:03:41.888 39,273 kbps 42,011 kbps 00:09:25.698 39,900 kbps 00:09:21.694 39,629 kbps 00:09:16.689 163,800 bytes 361,369 bytes 00:06:55.414 4 0:10:21.287 0:01:47.941 39,098 kbps 42,296 kbps 00:11:04.363 39,862 kbps 00:11:00.359 39,704 kbps 00:10:38.804 163,073 bytes 326,994 bytes 00:10:48.581 5 0:12:09.228 0:04:56.462 39,036 kbps 43,038 kbps 00:15:16.215 39,799 kbps 00:12:19.505 39,577 kbps 00:15:07.239 162,814 bytes 358,859 bytes 00:17:05.124 6 0:17:05.691 0:24:30.802 38,996 kbps 42,829 kbps 00:32:25.843 40,046 kbps 00:32:21.839 39,769 kbps 00:32:16.834 162,647 bytes 419,214 bytes 00:17:12.698 7 0:41:36.493 0:08:50.730 38,971 kbps 43,421 kbps 00:43:23.100 39,712 kbps 00:45:06.170 39,565 kbps 00:49:09.613 162,542 bytes 396,390 bytes 00:44:00.638 8 0:50:27.224 0:09:19.358 38,770 kbps 43,335 kbps 00:59:40.843 40,013 kbps 00:59:36.839 39,740 kbps 00:58:02.745 161,714 bytes 640,646 bytes 00:59:45.014 STREAM DIAGNOSTICS: File PID Type Codec Language Seconds Bitrate Bytes Packets ---- --- ---- ----- -------- -------------- -------------- ------------- ----- 00001.M2TS 4113 (0x1011) 0x1B AVC 3586.516 38,982 17,476,031,982 95,040,837 00001.M2TS 4352 (0x1100) 0x80 LPCM und (Undetermined) 3586.516 2,310 1,035,805,748 5,738,536 00001.M2TS 4353 (0x1101) 0x80 LPCM und (Undetermined) 3586.516 2,310 1,035,805,748 5,738,536 |
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There are 7 more titles tentatively scheduled for July 8th, 2020. Information is scant right now, but based on the titles versus the Japanese DVDs, I believe these are the programs being released:
Beethoven: Symphonies Nos. 4 & 5 (1982-1983) (JAN: 4547366457018) Beethoven: Symphony Nos. 6 & 7 (1982-1983) (JAN: 4547366457025) Beethoven: Symphonies Nos. 1 & 8 (1984) (JAN: 4547366456998) Beethoven: Symphonies Nos. 2 & 3 (1984) (JAN: 4547366457001) Beethoven: Violin Concerto (1984) (JAN: 4547366456981) Brahms: Symphonies Nos. 1 & 2 (1986-1987) (JAN: 4547366456967) Bruckner: Symphony No. 8 (1988) (JAN: 4547366456974) I say "tentatively", because Sony Music Japan just pulled at least one June new release today, currently "rescheduled" to December 31st, so who knows what will happen to the forthcoming releases through the rest of the summer. |
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Thanks for all your diligence, McCrutchy.
I'm reminded of Eagle Rock/Eagle Vision's "SD on BD" releases. Wish there were more of these/those, such as the Tina Turner Once More For the Last Time. Would welcome one of these of Karajan/Berlin's "La Mer" and "Prelude To the Afternoon Of a Faun." |
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With the exception of the Beethoven 9, I believe all of the others are live concerts. Makes sense that Sony would release those first, since they are not mimed.
I have ordered some from Japan. Is the video any better than the DVDs? |
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As a lifelong classical aficionado, I have been steadily purchasing these from Amazon Japan. The quality is very good, as upconverts go -- a dramatic improvement over the DVDs, especially on a larger screen.
I'm just eager for more of what I consider to be the very best films in Karajan's 1980s series to be released: -Mussorgsky: Pictures at an Exhibition (really the finest film of the entire project) -Richard Strauss: Ein Heldenleben -Richard Strauss: Don Quixote -Tschaikowsky: Symphony Nr. 6 and two Beethoven titles that were never even released on LD or DVD in North America, but were issued in Japan: -Beethoven: Missa Solemnis -Beethoven & Brahms: Overtures Those are just the ones that first come to mind. Funnily enough, I don't mind the films that are part live, part studio productions, in the same way that I often prefer studio audio recordings to live recordings. Yes, the live performance is more honest, but the studio version is more of a creative endeavour on the conductor/filmmaker's part, a more thorough impression of his interpretation of the work. Eagerly anticipating the release of more titles in this series . . . Last edited by karsten; 05-30-2021 at 12:03 AM. |
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The third wave of titles will be released in Japan on December 22nd, 2021. Once again, here they are in order of product number:
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P.S., I should have noted yesterday that these programs have also started being released in the West, although they lack the "His Legacy for Home Video" branding and they have been licensed from Sony by C Major Entertainment, so I can't say for certain if the program content is identical to the Sony Music Japan releases.
![]() ![]() This disc was released last year in October and contains three programs. The first is a performance of Vivaldi's The Four Seasons. Interestingly, this program has only been released on DVD in Japan and has not seen a Blu-ray release there, yet. The second is Beethoven's Violin Concerto, which was in the second wave of Japanese Blu-rays, and the third has also only been released on DVD in Japan so far, the New Year's Eve Concert 1984. In addition to matching performance dates, added together, these three programs exactly match the stated run time of the C Major BD above, although the authoring will of course be different. Intriguingly, it looks like none of these three programs were re-issued with remixed sound options, but two of the three did have 5.0 tracks on DVD. The Violin Concerto is 2.0 only on DVD and the Japanese Blu-ray. And then, just last month, C Major issued a Blu-ray with the New Year's Concert 1987 and the New Year's Eve Concert 1988, both of which were released in the first wave of Japanese Blu-rays, back in July 2019: ![]() ![]() ![]() Once again, run times match (within seconds) the Japanese Blu-rays, although this time, C Major lists the 5.0 sound as Dolby Digital. On the Japanese discs, only the 1987 concert has a 5.0 track and it is definitely DTS-HD MA 5.0. Perhaps it's just an error on the jacket of the C Major disc. In any event, both programs also have original and remixed 2.0 audio on the Japanese discs, so I wonder if C Major has included both stereo audio tracks. |
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Some very fine titles in this batch (especially the Richard Strauss tone poems), though I'm still waiting for some of my favourites, as mentioned above (the Mussorgsky, the Beethoven overtures disc, a very well filmed Debusssy/Ravel compilation, etc.). Four operas were/are part of the Legacy series, so it's nice to see one of them finally getting issued on blu-ray -- though frankly, I'm more looking forward to Karajan's Don Carlos and Falstaff. The Tchaikowsky double-disc issue is interesting, as this is the first instance in which Sony's blu-ray releases are not exactly matching the original DVD issues. On DVD, the three Tchaikowsky symphonies were released individually, as it being done with the two Dvorak symphonies. It would seem that all of Karajan's choral Legacy films are being saved for last (the Missa Solemnis, the Verdi, Brahms, and Mozart Requiems, and the Coronation Mass). Eagerly looking forward to these and future Legacy releases. |
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EDIT: In the database:
![]() I notice that the back cover states the audio is LPCM 2.0 and DTS 5.1, without true lossless 5.1 audio. I will leave the audio section blank until someone receives the disc and confirms the audio specs. This opera was released on DVD in Japan, apparently as 2xDVD-9 with a 189-minute runtime and PCM 2.0 audio, but there was also a Western NTSC DVD, which was doubled-sided and ran 193 minutes, with PCM 2.0 and "Dolby Digital", according to the packaging. It's not clear if this is a 5.1 mix, but the 193-minute runtime is carried over to the Blu-ray specs. Karajan's Don Giovanni (1987), starring Samuel Ramey, Anna Tomowa-Sintow, Gösta Winbergh, Paata Burchuladze, Julia Varady, Ferruccio Furlanetto, Alexander Malta and Kathleen Battle, is being released by C Major this summer: https://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/det.../hnum/10929675 Surprisingly, the cover states that it will include English, French, German, Italian (sung language) Korean and Japanese subtitles. This probably means that there will not be a following domestic Japanese Blu-ray from Sony Music Japan. I wonder if SMJ have decided to halt publishing further titles directly. Last edited by McCrutchy; 04-28-2022 at 07:42 PM. |
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