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I spent a lot of time at CES with several of LG's HQ and US management and engineers, and we viewed and discussed LG's new 2025 G5. We mostly discussed the features and benefits of the new a11 Gen 2 SoC processor, and LG's New 4-Stack OLED Panel, aka Primary RGB Tandem Panel.
This multi layer OLED panel module is actually using 4 OLED panels, one each, Red, Green, & Blue, and one White, all are OLED full screen panels. Peak luminance is very nicely and easily noticeable enhanced. The higher dynamic contrast ratio gives the picture more depth and detail with all images. Color volume and color saturation renders a more colorful snappy look as and when needed. Here's a quick .pdf spec. sheet I just made with most of the technical specifications. I did not list the peak luminance as I want to wait for our 1st shipment so I can throughly test and evaluate the G5's performance capabilities. https://valueelectronics.com/wp-cont...-Specs-Z-9.pdf This is a very big year for all TV manufacturers and I do mean all, so we can now include what was called a tier 2 level quality that have now stepped up the quality with their new 2024 and again for the 2025 TV model year. |
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Vincent Teoh seems to already have done a quick glance over the brightness and despite dumping out the MLA tech for the G5 and "only" using the 4 stack RGB tandem, the brightness results for a 10% window are an impressive leap even over the G4. Personally not due to upgrade myself till 2028 at the earliest but if these levels of improvements keep going, i can easily see an improved MLA tech back on top of the further refined 4 stack RGB tandem and you have one helluva killer OLED on the horizon from LG.
I am curious though to see eventually what LG will do to try boost colour volume and richness to compete with QD OLEDs which Samsung seems to still have an edge in but overall for price to performance the LG G5 looks like a winner in waiting. |
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Thanks given by: | Robert Zohn (03-09-2025) |
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LG's New 2025 4 layer stacked OLED panel that is used with LG's new G5 series TVs has very nicely enhanced the color fidelity, color saturation, and color volume.
Once we receive LG's new G5 TVs we'll throughly and professionally test and evaluate all of the picture quality attributes so we can accurately answer this. If all goes as scheduled we'll be included in LG's 1st G5 allocations/shipments, early - mid April. |
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"Within the OLED evo G5 series, prices reportedly start at $2,499 for a 55-inch model and climb to $24,999 for the 97-inch option. In the C5 lineup, while entry-level models begin at $1,399, the largest offering—the 83-inch OLED83C5PUA—is listed at $5,399. LG plans to introduce more models in the OLED evo lineup soon." "The G5 series comes in sizes from 55 to 97 inches. It starts at $2,499 and includes a five-year panel warranty" "This includes 4K at 144Hz and VRR support." https://www.soundandvision.com/conte...ter-and-gaming |
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Thanks given by: | Robert Zohn (03-12-2025) |
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I have the most information and all of the technical specifications listed on our new G5 and C5 product webpages I just completed yesterday.
I'll get an update very soon on when LG will release their 1st allocations/shipments that our company is included in. |
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Thanks given by: | HDTV1080P (03-12-2025) |
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When buying any 97 inch OLED screen for $24,999 or any home theater setup for around $10,000. This 1500 watt pure sine wave brownout, surge protector, and line conditioner is a must have item to keep the electronics working during thunderstorms and grid power issues. A must have item to give one peace of mind during those brief and dangerous power outages and voltage drops during brownouts.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CMYPVNXK?th=1 https://www.cyberpowersystems.com/pr...r1500rtxl2ucn/ |
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Very important ^^ and excellent advice!
I do recommend much lower cost power line conditioner/stabilization, surge protection power strips. One example is Austere's 4000 Joules Power (8 outlets) Surge protector and power line conditioner for $229.99. |
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Thanks given by: | HDTV1080P (03-15-2025) |
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Hi Robert, I have a question. Have you ever discussed with LG why the 97" gets the 'G' and 'M' series naming but yet and please correct me if I'm wrong, it has never had the flagship features of the 'G' and 'M' series? This is very misleading and anti-consumer. It seems to me the the 97" 'G' shouldn't be classified as anything other than a 'C' series display and for the wireless 'M' version should perhaps have a unique lettered moniker of it's own to separate it from the other more advanced 'M' series sizes. The 97" just has not and continues to not be the equal of the 'G' and 'M' series. It never had MLA for the 2 years LG included that technology and it's not getting the new 4 stack primary RGB technology. I guess the same goes for the 42" models this year as well.
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Thanks given by: | Robert Zohn (03-19-2025) |
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Very good ^ question!
Not that it matters, and I am not in any way defending LG Electronics, but LG Display makes the panels and their factory that makes the MLA OLED modules does not manufacturer the the 97" panels. The 97" G4 does have all of the other features and benefits of all other screen sizes of the G4 Gallery Series, e.g. LGE's a11 processor and the very nice slim design with the built-in no gap wall mount and the 5 year warranty for the OLED panel. Again and not that is matters, but if the 97" had the MLA panel and unless you have very high ambient light you would very likely turn down the peak luminance when watching HDR content as the specular highlights are larger and the brighter high peak luminance would give you eye fatigue. This is the same issue that Samsung has with the S90D, where the 83", 48" and 42" do not have the QD-OLED panels. |
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Thanks Robert.
Yeah the whole situation with Samsung is even worse than LG as LG at least tells you up front there is a difference in the particular models within the range so you are informed from the start with no subterfuge. Perhaps this is more of an enthusiast thing vs the common consumer where the common consumer wouldn't necessarily even know anything about MLA or 4 stack tandem RGB however for enthusiasts it's these 2 features that are at the heart of the tv's and what really differentiates them vs other models, not the longer warranty or slimmer design as those are things which if LG wanted could easily be part of the C series. The real cost difference comes from the previous MLA technology and now 4 stack tandem RGB and the R&D that went into those and the increased cost to apply this to each panel and not a slimmer enclosure. You mention that LG Display does not manufacture the 97" panel, I did not know that, I thought LG Display manufactured all of the OLED panels used by LG Electronics. Who is manufacturing the 97" panel? I wonder why then no other manufacturer is offering a 97" OLED as that would have brought competition at this size thus lowering the MSRP over time which is something that hasn't really happened with the LG model? I assumed until now LG was not willing to sell the 97" panel to competitors due to some type of arrangement between LGD and LGE. What about the 77" and 88" 8k panels, are they also not manufactured by LGD? |
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Thanks given by: | Robert Zohn (03-19-2025) |
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Sorry for not explaining LG Display's production facilities with more information. LG Display does manufacturer all of LG Electronics panels.
LG Display has several facilities that build their OLED panels and the facility that made the MLA does not make the 97" size. Last edited by Robert Zohn; 03-19-2025 at 01:39 PM. |
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Thanks given by: | punisher (03-19-2025) |
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Thanks for the clarification
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Thanks given by: | Robert Zohn (03-19-2025) |
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I wish LG and Sony would start making displays with both HDR10+ and Dolby Vision HDR. That is something that Panasonic does on their OLED displays.
Looking at the LG G5 specs, NTSC tuner was dropped since no cable TV or TV broadcaster uses NTSC. NTSC is only needed for some old videogame and computer systems from the 1970’s and early 1980’s that have a RF NTSC output instead of a composite video output (But that issue can be fixed with special adapters or modifications for equipment that is around 50 years old). So good cost saving feature to remove the NTSC tuner. Instead, LG G5 series has both clear QAM tuner for cable TV and ATSC 1.0 tuner. The negative is that there is no ATSC 3.0 tuner built in, and without an FCC ATSC 3.0 tuner mandate many year 2025+ TV's will only offer the mandatory ATSC 1.0 tuner and sometimes clear QAM cable TV tuner. The year 2025 LG 97-inch 300-watt power consumption is less power consumption when compared to a 60-inch year 2008 Pioneer PRO-141FD plasma that uses a maximum of 481 watts. Therefore, if the specs are correct 300 watts for 97-inch OLED is low power consumption. Hopefully the ethernet jack is at least 1,000Mbps, or better yet 10,000Mbps ethernet would be ideal. The LG G5 series has WI-FI6e which is faster than 100Mbps ethernet. LG offers a one-year parts and labor warranty with a 5-year panel warranty. However, Philips OLED at Sams club offers a 3-year manufactories warranty. Pioneer Elite use to be 2-year parts and labor but they switched to 3-year parts and labor. Offering longer warranties like 3 years increases the price of the product, but higher end equipment should have a 3-year parts and labor warranty. https://valueelectronics.com/wp-cont...pec.-sheet.pdf Last edited by HDTV1080P; 03-19-2025 at 09:47 PM. |
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Thanks given by: | Robert Zohn (03-20-2025) |
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LG just confirmed that our company will be included in their very first allocations/shipments of the G5 and C5 in all screen sizes! So less than 2 week to arrive at our store.
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Back around the year 2005 I use to have a 1080i HDTV with built in ATSC 1.0/QAM tuner and any in the clear cable TV channels that used the MPEG-2 video codec could be picked up for free. However when the channel was encrypted/scrambled on the QAM channel, a message would pop up saying encrypted channel and the screen would be dark like it is suppose too. Now its my understanding that all or most cable TV companies encrypt all QAM channels including local channels (but that would need to be verified since some Cable TV companies might have local channels and a few other channels in the clear). TV manufactories would not be placing in the clear QAM tuners in year 2025 TV’s if all the channels were encrypted, some Cable TV companies must send the channels like local channels unencrypted.
The advantage of the LG G5 series is that the 4K Smart TV because of the streaming apps must also handle all kings of video codecs not just MPEG-2. MPEG-2, MPEG-4/AVC, and HEVC video codecs are supported on the LG G5 series. That means with the latest QAM technology any cable TV company using HEVC, MPEG-4/AVC, or MPEG-2 video codecs one will be able to pickup more in the clear QAM channels with the LG G5 series. Any cable TV company transmitting in the clear 4K HEVC or 2K HEVC over QAM would be able to be picked up. Many cable TV companies now use MPEG-4/AVC for HD channels. My point is it would be interesting to see what type of Cable TV channels one might receive. Some people no channels since all channels encrypted, other people on different cable TV systems might pick up only local channels like NBC, ABC, CBS, FOX, etc. Some cable TV systems one or two premium channels might be picked up if the cable TV company headquarters forgot to encrypt the channel. Last edited by HDTV1080P; 03-20-2025 at 01:12 AM. |
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Thanks given by: | Robert Zohn (03-20-2025) |
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Can modern tv's (i.e. say G3/G4 upcoming G5, S95B/S95C/S95D upcoming S95F, etc., etc.) actually handle HEVC properly without buffering and freezing? I know PC's still struggle with that codec and they have a lot more multi-media horsepower than any tv would have. The new Nvidia 50 series GPUs finally have onboard HEVC decoders but until now I don't think the 30/40 series had that ability.
My tv is a 17 year old Pioneer Kuro PRO-150FD with no DLNA capability thus I've had to rely on my various Xbox models over the year to playback files from my NAS and when I purchased a GoPro Hero10 a few years ago and started using HEVC files even the Xbox Series X can't cope with HEVC. I'll be purchasing an OLED later this year, most likely the 83" G5. |
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Although it's true that plasma TVs have better motion resolution with select content, as the panel and processors have 600Hz capability.
I can assure you that you will Love LG's New 2025 G5 4-Stack RGB Tandem Panel & LG's New 2nd Generation of the a11 processor. If all goes as scheduled we'll receive LG's first allocation/shipment of the 65" - 83" G5 TV next week. |
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