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Old 02-17-2008, 10:36 PM   #1
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Default What happens to HD-DVD stock?

I assume they'll keep selling HD-DVD movies until the numbers dictate it isn't worth it to waste the shelf space. But say Best Buy and Circuit City have thousands of DUD units in a warehouse, what happens with those? Anyone know if those companies are basically selling the product on consignment or have they simply purchased for inventory? Also, does any insider have knowledge as to how large those inventories might be? Would they return these units to Toshiba or be forced to sell them "as is"? If so, how low will that price go?
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Old 02-17-2008, 10:37 PM   #2
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recycle them?
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Old 02-17-2008, 10:42 PM   #3
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Welcome to the fire sale. You will see HD DUD players going for $69 soon. You will see HD DUD movies going for $10 in store as well.
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Old 02-17-2008, 10:43 PM   #4
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Hardware: Probably be sold as upscaling DVD players (this has been happening). The any remaining stocks will be sent off to specialist recovery centres and all valuable parts recycled. The blue lasers in the HD-DVD players may even end in a brand new Blu-ray player

Software: Stocks on shelves will eventually be depleted or withdrawn. Eventually some will be retained as special order items for the fanboys. The rest will be trashed (recycled for the polycarbonate), and written off against tax.
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Old 02-17-2008, 10:46 PM   #5
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^ interesting... how are HD DVD players as upscaling DVD players? I've been meaning to get one if the quality is good. Is it known of any of the HD DVD players can be region unlocked for the DVD's? (including pal and NTSC compatible?)
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Old 02-17-2008, 10:49 PM   #6
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What happens to HD-DVD stock?
[With Scottish Braveheart accent] --> Burn it!

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Old 02-17-2008, 10:52 PM   #7
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Hardware:The blue lasers in the HD-DVD players may even end in a brand new Blu-ray player
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I thought DUDs have red lasers?
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Old 02-17-2008, 10:55 PM   #8
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I thought DUDs have red lasers?
No... exactly the same wavelength as Blu-ray (though obviously not used to their full potential ).
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Old 02-17-2008, 10:55 PM   #9
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^ interesting... how are HD DVD players as upscaling DVD players? I've been meaning to get one if the quality is good. Is it known of any of the HD DVD players can be region unlocked for the DVD's? (including pal and NTSC compatible?)
I've heard they're pretty good upscalers.
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Old 02-17-2008, 10:56 PM   #10
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Old 02-17-2008, 11:00 PM   #11
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I've heard they're pretty good upscalers.
I've heard they're good door stops, paper weights and boat anchors. Hell, there is a lot of life left in the format.
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Old 02-17-2008, 11:01 PM   #12
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I've heard they're good door stops, paper weights and boat anchors. Hell, there is a lot of life left in the format.
You forgot automated cupholders
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You forgot automated cupholders
Dammit! I knew I forgot something...
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^ interesting... how are HD DVD players as upscaling DVD players? I've been meaning to get one if the quality is good. Is it known of any of the HD DVD players can be region unlocked for the DVD's? (including pal and NTSC compatible?)
The ones with the reon chips are excellent upscalers.
No known hack for region unlocking though.
Have you looked at any of the Oppo players?
They upscale great and play everything from everywhere.
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Old 02-17-2008, 11:14 PM   #16
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The ones with the reon chips are excellent upscalers.
No known hack for region unlocking though.
Have you looked at any of the Oppo players?
They upscale great and play everything from everywhere.
Which models have the reon chips in them?

I have been thinking about picking up a good upscaler for my HT room. I'm currently using a panny BD-30 for my blu's but unfortunately it doesn't upscale all that well. Once the dud players hit the firesale price points I figure it might be a good idea to grab one strictly for use as an upscaler.

Or would I still be better off going with an Oppo, or maybe a Denon, what do you guys think?
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Old 02-17-2008, 11:20 PM   #17
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Dump them wherever they dumped those copies of ET for the Atari
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Old 02-17-2008, 11:22 PM   #18
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I've heard they're pretty good upscalers.
My very subjective and anecdotal experience is that my A20 is a better upscaler than my BDS1. How it would compare directly against other BD players I could not speculate. However, I suspect that there are affordable upconverting DVD players dedicated to this purpose that are better.
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No... exactly the same wavelength as Blu-ray (though obviously not used to their full potential ).
Well in that case I still say we recycle those suckers! lol
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Which models have the reon chips in them?

I have been thinking about picking up a good upscaler for my HT room. I'm currently using a panny BD-30 for my blu's but unfortunately it doesn't upscale all that well. Once the dud players hit the firesale price points I figure it might be a good idea to grab one strictly for use as an upscaler.

Or would I still be better off going with an Oppo, or maybe a Denon, what do you guys think?
Why do you feel the 30 doesn't upscale well?
Because you compared them directly with other players or because you read it somewhere?
If you look at my sig, I have a >$1k scaler in my HT setup.
Is the DB30 better than it?
No, (and I doubt any toshiba model will also) but it isn't bad.
With film based movies, it does quite well thank you.
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